| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories 13:23 - Mar 24 with 4614 views | Illinoisblue |
Wonder where he wants to put the away fans? Presumably in Churchmans somewhere but don’t know how you’d segregate effectively. (Although weren’t west ham in there for playoff game back in the day?) |  |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:25 - Mar 24 with 3934 views | FrimleyBlue |
Can't visually remember but was there a bridge put in between the station and PR which could be used by police to take away fans from station to churchman stand via the new staples land and that makes it easier to manage? |  |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:27 - Mar 24 with 3921 views | lurcher |
SIr alf lower, that is why the turnstiles were moved. If you look at the plans for the turnstile work there were also new gates at both end of the lower tier making a totally isolated area. They can link the upper tier and corporate sections to side stands without much effort.
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:28 - Mar 24 with 3903 views | textbackup |
Literally the only other option due to fans not needing to cross paths.
However, if it were possible, I’d stick them top corner of pioneer, out of the way [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 13:29]
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:29 - Mar 24 with 3899 views | hatch |
Realistically it's Cobbold or SAR.
Cobbold he's said have the best view and if you put them along the bottom tier like Wolves used to then you'd no doubt have issues with the boxes.
Which leaves SAR and I'm not sure how far the SBR suite stretches down the middle. You can't have them upper tier above Ipswich fans as I guess there's risk of missiles. Which broadly leaves the bottom left block of the stand (Block 6?). Not sure how many that holds and what % we have to provide away fans in the league? Could expand upwards to the block in the tier above for cup games when they get higher %? |  | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:30 - Mar 24 with 3861 views | textbackup |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:25 - Mar 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Can't visually remember but was there a bridge put in between the station and PR which could be used by police to take away fans from station to churchman stand via the new staples land and that makes it easier to manage? |
They aren’t going to walk them through housing to Cross that bridge | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:33 - Mar 24 with 3820 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:27 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
SIr alf lower, that is why the turnstiles were moved. If you look at the plans for the turnstile work there were also new gates at both end of the lower tier making a totally isolated area. They can link the upper tier and corporate sections to side stands without much effort.
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You've then got the corporate seats the SBR Suite uses at the back of Churchmans, so they can't go there either.
And you can't effectively segregate the lower and upper tier of Churchmans, as they used the same turnstiles, and the stairs to the upper tier are on the lower tier concourse. |  |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:34 - Mar 24 with 3806 views | lurcher |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:29 - Mar 24 by hatch |
Realistically it's Cobbold or SAR.
Cobbold he's said have the best view and if you put them along the bottom tier like Wolves used to then you'd no doubt have issues with the boxes.
Which leaves SAR and I'm not sure how far the SBR suite stretches down the middle. You can't have them upper tier above Ipswich fans as I guess there's risk of missiles. Which broadly leaves the bottom left block of the stand (Block 6?). Not sure how many that holds and what % we have to provide away fans in the league? Could expand upwards to the block in the tier above for cup games when they get higher %? |
The SBR suite is the entire width of the stand, you just lock the doors and sit the people upstairs. | | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:41 - Mar 24 with 3753 views | withyblue |
When we rebuild the Cobbold Stand fill in the Cobbold/SAR corner with seating,and put them in that corner. A bit like the away ends at Derby and Man Utd |  | | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:45 - Mar 24 with 3712 views | lurcher |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:33 - Mar 24 by ITFC_Forever |
You've then got the corporate seats the SBR Suite uses at the back of Churchmans, so they can't go there either.
And you can't effectively segregate the lower and upper tier of Churchmans, as they used the same turnstiles, and the stairs to the upper tier are on the lower tier concourse. |
Not an issue, plenty of grounds have corporate behind the away section, you just lock the doors and put the people upstairs to watch the match. All of the existing upper tier turnstiles will close. The end of each upper tier concourse will be opened up and new stairs will be built on the Pioneer side. On the Cobbled side they will build a temporary walkway between the upper tiers of the two stands. | | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:51 - Mar 24 with 3653 views | textbackup |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:29 - Mar 24 by hatch |
Realistically it's Cobbold or SAR.
Cobbold he's said have the best view and if you put them along the bottom tier like Wolves used to then you'd no doubt have issues with the boxes.
Which leaves SAR and I'm not sure how far the SBR suite stretches down the middle. You can't have them upper tier above Ipswich fans as I guess there's risk of missiles. Which broadly leaves the bottom left block of the stand (Block 6?). Not sure how many that holds and what % we have to provide away fans in the league? Could expand upwards to the block in the tier above for cup games when they get higher %? |
All will be sorted once they knock down the cobbold and rebuild it like ncfcs side stand.
Away fans to enter via turnstiles in current position, with a walk away through stand to away section down by the NS. | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:54 - Mar 24 with 3615 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:51 - Mar 24 by textbackup |
All will be sorted once they knock down the cobbold and rebuild it like ncfcs side stand.
Away fans to enter via turnstiles in current position, with a walk away through stand to away section down by the NS. |
It makes me think what a headache it must have been when away fans shared the North Stand AND had the current seats if there was a large following.
From memory, the away coaches would park up at West End Road end of Portman Walk and you'd still have some coming off the train. |  |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:56 - Mar 24 with 3584 views | lurcher |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:51 - Mar 24 by textbackup |
All will be sorted once they knock down the cobbold and rebuild it like ncfcs side stand.
Away fans to enter via turnstiles in current position, with a walk away through stand to away section down by the NS. |
Away fans will enter the ground through new turnstiles in the the back of the SBR lower. | | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:57 - Mar 24 with 3563 views | unstableblue |
The lower Churchmans is the obvious answer… access to the station without passing North Stand traffic
Extendable from left to right to scale. So half is normal allocation.
Area behind screen for access, catering.
BUT the challenge is the lounge and premium seating at back of that area… as well as moving very loyal season ticket holders to the upper tier
The former means it can’t happen I think. |  |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:58 - Mar 24 with 3563 views | PhilTWTD |
The whisper I've previously heard is a sliver of the Sir Alf Stand, both tiers to the Cobbold side. But as MA says, no decisions made as yet. |  | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:59 - Mar 24 with 3517 views | textbackup |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:56 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
Away fans will enter the ground through new turnstiles in the the back of the SBR lower. |
Not a hope OB would allow that | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:09 - Mar 24 with 3450 views | RonFearonsHair |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:57 - Mar 24 by unstableblue |
The lower Churchmans is the obvious answer… access to the station without passing North Stand traffic
Extendable from left to right to scale. So half is normal allocation.
Area behind screen for access, catering.
BUT the challenge is the lounge and premium seating at back of that area… as well as moving very loyal season ticket holders to the upper tier
The former means it can’t happen I think. |
Other than the fact I sit in it, I don’t like the idea of Churchmans lower as I don’t like giving away teams the opportunity to attack directly towards their own fans. Prefer the idea of upper. Stick them out of the way. |  | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:10 - Mar 24 with 3431 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:58 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
The whisper I've previously heard is a sliver of the Sir Alf Stand, both tiers to the Cobbold side. But as MA says, no decisions made as yet. |
I think this is the best and most realistic option - a bit like the Etihad. That stand holds c.8k so at very most it would only ever need a third of it given up, maybe more for cup games where we have to give 15%.
Also allows police to close that end of Portman road and have away fans enter in that corner. Everyone else to either leave via the new exists or from the SBR end across the Portman Rd car park and out that way.
What would be interesting is when away teams have a small following and we only give them one tier, if we sit home fans above / below them, as I think there now has to be netting or something in place where that happens to avoid objects being thrown down. |  | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:10 - Mar 24 with 3421 views | textbackup |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:54 - Mar 24 by gainsboroughblue |
It makes me think what a headache it must have been when away fans shared the North Stand AND had the current seats if there was a large following.
From memory, the away coaches would park up at West End Road end of Portman Walk and you'd still have some coming off the train. |
Nobody cared back then though, was a free for all. 😂 | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:18 - Mar 24 with 3356 views | lurcher |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:59 - Mar 24 by textbackup |
Not a hope OB would allow that |
They were put in the back for that very purpose It would mean the away fans would approach the ground away from the home fans. They could only access those turnstiles across the land that staples sits on now. | | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:40 - Mar 24 with 3170 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:10 - Mar 24 by Matt_Netherlands |
I think this is the best and most realistic option - a bit like the Etihad. That stand holds c.8k so at very most it would only ever need a third of it given up, maybe more for cup games where we have to give 15%.
Also allows police to close that end of Portman road and have away fans enter in that corner. Everyone else to either leave via the new exists or from the SBR end across the Portman Rd car park and out that way.
What would be interesting is when away teams have a small following and we only give them one tier, if we sit home fans above / below them, as I think there now has to be netting or something in place where that happens to avoid objects being thrown down. |
That then impacts on entry to Beatties after the game.... | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:43 - Mar 24 with 3146 views | textbackup |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:18 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
They were put in the back for that very purpose It would mean the away fans would approach the ground away from the home fans. They could only access those turnstiles across the land that staples sits on now. |
You mean the SAR lower?
Your post says SBR - which confused me | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:46 - Mar 24 with 3088 views | lurcher |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:43 - Mar 24 by textbackup |
You mean the SAR lower?
Your post says SBR - which confused me |
I did sorry, you and me both.
Doesn't help that the Sir Bobby Robson suite in the Sir Alf Ramsey stand. | | | |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:55 - Mar 24 with 3046 views | SitfcB |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:40 - Mar 24 by ITFC_Forever |
That then impacts on entry to Beatties after the game.... |
Not really, just go in the entrance at the other end and then by the time people leave everyone else would’ve cleared off. |  |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:57 - Mar 24 with 3031 views | SitfcB |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 13:41 - Mar 24 by withyblue |
When we rebuild the Cobbold Stand fill in the Cobbold/SAR corner with seating,and put them in that corner. A bit like the away ends at Derby and Man Utd |
They haven’t just spent thousands of pounds to open up the corner to fill it back in  | |
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| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 16:03 - Mar 24 with 2716 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Interesting stuff from Ashton in the news stories on 14:55 - Mar 24 by SitfcB |
Not really, just go in the entrance at the other end and then by the time people leave everyone else would’ve cleared off. |
You can't get to the entrance at the other end.... | |
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