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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? 20:43 - Apr 21 with 1618 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/21/just-stop-oil-protesters-jai

But they're selfish or something!

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 20:57 - Apr 21 with 1553 viewsNthQldITFC

'Judge Collery KC... told the pair “[you] plainly believed you knew better than everyone else”, adding: “In short, to hell with everyone else.'

To be fair a lot of us probably including yourself, your honour, and every fking scientist and at least vaguely intelligent person on the planet, know just as well.

As for your last sentence there, the 'else' is superfluous.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 21:03 - Apr 21 with 1540 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 20:57 - Apr 21 by NthQldITFC

'Judge Collery KC... told the pair “[you] plainly believed you knew better than everyone else”, adding: “In short, to hell with everyone else.'

To be fair a lot of us probably including yourself, your honour, and every fking scientist and at least vaguely intelligent person on the planet, know just as well.

As for your last sentence there, the 'else' is superfluous.


"Judge Collery KC handed down the sentence, commenting that it was a strict punishment because he wanted to deter copycat actions."

Can't have people caring now can we, nevermind thinking they can make a difference!

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:08 - Apr 21 with 1493 viewsIllinoisblue

Arsenal fans would probably do time for Thomas Partey’s shockingly stupid bad awful terrible shot on 90+7

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:14 - Apr 21 with 1475 viewsChurchman

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:08 - Apr 21 by Illinoisblue

Arsenal fans would probably do time for Thomas Partey’s shockingly stupid bad awful terrible shot on 90+7


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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:21 - Apr 21 with 1457 viewsJ2BLUE

Wow those sentences are shocking. Incredibly harsh.

Truly impaired.
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:25 - Apr 21 with 1450 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:21 - Apr 21 by J2BLUE

Wow those sentences are shocking. Incredibly harsh.


It's the economy stoopid!

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:29 - Apr 21 with 1443 viewsIllinoisblue

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:14 - Apr 21 by Churchman

Brainless didn’t do it justice.


I was angrily swearing at my TV. So poor.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 07:35 - Apr 22 with 1317 viewsLegendofthePhoenix

It's a difficult one - JSO.
Anyone with half a brain can see that we have screwed the environment, and drastic action is needed to try to limit what we can of climate change. It's patently obvious that we are getting more extreme weather events than ever before.

But when it comes to personal choices it gets tricky. Driving to watch ITFC for example - who is gonna give that up? It certainly doesn't help that using the train to travel to games costs double the cost of driving, and if there are passengers then the cost of driving can be 1/3 or less than train fare.
I've had debates with friends who say that "China has over 1,000 coal fired power stations, and is building more, so what is the point in switching from petrol or diesel to electric cars?" And that is a valid point (note the USA and many other countries are also using coal for power).
My view is that we should all do what we can, and that does mean making different choices. So reducing the number of flights we take, cycling and walking wherever possible etc. or trying to use public transport for longer journeys. Having a government that only pay lip service to the environment is of course a massive part of the problem. I've voted Green a couple of times, but it's a wasted vote in most places, and we have to get theses corrupt self-serving scumbags out of office if any change is going to happen.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 07:42 - Apr 22 with 1309 viewsDanTheMan

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 07:35 - Apr 22 by LegendofthePhoenix

It's a difficult one - JSO.
Anyone with half a brain can see that we have screwed the environment, and drastic action is needed to try to limit what we can of climate change. It's patently obvious that we are getting more extreme weather events than ever before.

But when it comes to personal choices it gets tricky. Driving to watch ITFC for example - who is gonna give that up? It certainly doesn't help that using the train to travel to games costs double the cost of driving, and if there are passengers then the cost of driving can be 1/3 or less than train fare.
I've had debates with friends who say that "China has over 1,000 coal fired power stations, and is building more, so what is the point in switching from petrol or diesel to electric cars?" And that is a valid point (note the USA and many other countries are also using coal for power).
My view is that we should all do what we can, and that does mean making different choices. So reducing the number of flights we take, cycling and walking wherever possible etc. or trying to use public transport for longer journeys. Having a government that only pay lip service to the environment is of course a massive part of the problem. I've voted Green a couple of times, but it's a wasted vote in most places, and we have to get theses corrupt self-serving scumbags out of office if any change is going to happen.


All anyone can do is cut down where it is feasible and, most importantly, vote for people who will actually do something about it.

Conservatives pledged there would be no more fossil fuels and that they'd insulate UK houses. Neither of these things have happened. Insulation is lagging massively behind and we're exploring new oil and gas.

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Ironically, I expect Partey…. on 07:49 - Apr 22 with 1294 viewsBloots

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 22:08 - Apr 21 by Illinoisblue

Arsenal fans would probably do time for Thomas Partey’s shockingly stupid bad awful terrible shot on 90+7


….himself will be doing time soon.

But not for that shot.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 07:51 - Apr 22 with 1283 viewsHerbivore

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 07:35 - Apr 22 by LegendofthePhoenix

It's a difficult one - JSO.
Anyone with half a brain can see that we have screwed the environment, and drastic action is needed to try to limit what we can of climate change. It's patently obvious that we are getting more extreme weather events than ever before.

But when it comes to personal choices it gets tricky. Driving to watch ITFC for example - who is gonna give that up? It certainly doesn't help that using the train to travel to games costs double the cost of driving, and if there are passengers then the cost of driving can be 1/3 or less than train fare.
I've had debates with friends who say that "China has over 1,000 coal fired power stations, and is building more, so what is the point in switching from petrol or diesel to electric cars?" And that is a valid point (note the USA and many other countries are also using coal for power).
My view is that we should all do what we can, and that does mean making different choices. So reducing the number of flights we take, cycling and walking wherever possible etc. or trying to use public transport for longer journeys. Having a government that only pay lip service to the environment is of course a massive part of the problem. I've voted Green a couple of times, but it's a wasted vote in most places, and we have to get theses corrupt self-serving scumbags out of office if any change is going to happen.


Individuals making changes isn't enough and that's not what JSO are trying to achieve. Nothing will be done on climate change without significant action from national governments and without international cooperation. Both of those things are lacking. Of course there is some benefit to all of us as individuals doing our bit, the three biggest things you can do as an individual are to go vegan, stop flying, and vote for someone other than the Tories. But even if all of us do all of those things it will still need more, big businesses need to be forced to make changes too and we need huge investment to move away from the use of fossil fuels to generate power.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 08:11 - Apr 22 with 1249 viewsDubtractor

That is a ridiculous jail sentence. I'm not surprised that a custodial sentence was given, but that length is crazy.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 08:13 - Apr 22 with 1248 viewsDJR

Something that doesn't appear to have got any publicity outside the legal profession is the far-reaching climate change guidance issued this week by the Law Society. It is described as a global first in the legal profession.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/law-society-issues-landmark-guidance-on-climat

This from the article

"Law firms can refuse to act for polluters if the client’s activities inhibit progress toward net zero or otherwise conflict with the firm’s own ‘values’ on climate change.

So declares the Law Society, in what the professional body today describes as ‘milestone’ climate change guidance for solicitors.

Chancery Lane also advises practices to assess the impact on staff of their own stance on climate change, especially as this is increasingly important for young lawyers and students choosing where to work. Law firms may want to consider accommodating employees who identify commitment to the climate as a ‘recognised philosophical belief’ - and therefore a protected characteristic - under the Equalities Act."

The full guidance is here.

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/climate-change/impact-of-climate-change-on-
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 09:14 - Apr 22 with 1192 viewsNthQldITFC

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 08:13 - Apr 22 by DJR

Something that doesn't appear to have got any publicity outside the legal profession is the far-reaching climate change guidance issued this week by the Law Society. It is described as a global first in the legal profession.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/law-society-issues-landmark-guidance-on-climat

This from the article

"Law firms can refuse to act for polluters if the client’s activities inhibit progress toward net zero or otherwise conflict with the firm’s own ‘values’ on climate change.

So declares the Law Society, in what the professional body today describes as ‘milestone’ climate change guidance for solicitors.

Chancery Lane also advises practices to assess the impact on staff of their own stance on climate change, especially as this is increasingly important for young lawyers and students choosing where to work. Law firms may want to consider accommodating employees who identify commitment to the climate as a ‘recognised philosophical belief’ - and therefore a protected characteristic - under the Equalities Act."

The full guidance is here.

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/climate-change/impact-of-climate-change-on-
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That sounds very encouraging to me. If there's one group who can bring negligent and corrupt policy makers to account, it's the lawyers.

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 11:08 - Apr 22 with 1129 viewsbrazil1982

The group should ger women to do these stunts - rarely jailed.
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 11:30 - Apr 22 with 1101 viewsAndrewRatcliffITFC

Town getting promoted.
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 12:15 - Apr 22 with 1041 viewsgtsb1966

Starting again next week then. Targeting the wrong people again. They call it a peaceful protest but not for much longer it won't be.
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 12:17 - Apr 22 with 1038 viewsStokieBlue

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 12:15 - Apr 22 by gtsb1966

Starting again next week then. Targeting the wrong people again. They call it a peaceful protest but not for much longer it won't be.


Who should they be targeting and can you please outline some examples of when targeting those people has actually resulted in a fundamental change of direction?

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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 12:20 - Apr 22 with 1023 viewsleitrimblue

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 11:08 - Apr 22 by brazil1982

The group should ger women to do these stunts - rarely jailed.


Or small children
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What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 14:41 - Apr 22 with 941 viewsSwansea_Blue

What cause would you do 2 1/2 to 3 years time for? on 20:57 - Apr 21 by NthQldITFC

'Judge Collery KC... told the pair “[you] plainly believed you knew better than everyone else”, adding: “In short, to hell with everyone else.'

To be fair a lot of us probably including yourself, your honour, and every fking scientist and at least vaguely intelligent person on the planet, know just as well.

As for your last sentence there, the 'else' is superfluous.


I’m not one for attacking our institutions, as that’s the hallmark of the rank populists we’re having to suffer, but that judge sounds like a right tvvat.

Yet that bloke up in Scotland recently escaped jail time for raping a 13 year old. Just madness. Better to be a sex offender than an environmental campaigner. Welcome to Britain in 2023.

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