| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? 17:58 - May 8 with 4037 views | thatbdude |
I just learnt about how Suffolk was divided into 2 counties from 1889 to 1974.
What was it like back then for those who remember it and what was reuniting like |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:20 - May 8 with 3222 views | factual_blue |
There were constant border skirmishes. |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:23 - May 8 with 3214 views | gainsboroughblue |
I'm sure I've read somewhere before that as part of the 1974 boundary changes, it was proposed that much of North Essex (including Clacton, Harwich and Colchester) would be moved to Suffolk. The argument mainly being that the two haven ports should be under the same county council. |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:42 - May 8 with 3148 views | GeoffSentence |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:23 - May 8 by gainsboroughblue |
I'm sure I've read somewhere before that as part of the 1974 boundary changes, it was proposed that much of North Essex (including Clacton, Harwich and Colchester) would be moved to Suffolk. The argument mainly being that the two haven ports should be under the same county council. |
yep, they wanted estuaries unde the control of a single authority, resulting in the creation of Cleveland and Humberside.
In the case of Suffolk, it was initially proposed that it would lose parts of East Lothingland (Gorleston, Bradwell et al) South of Great Yarmouth and would gain the parts of Essex you mentioned. The denizens of Essex weren't happy and retained their proposed losses, so Suffolk lost parts of it's Northern nether regions to Norfolk and gained nothing.
The loss of East Lothingland is a causus beli that remains vexatious and could eventually lead to WAR! |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 19:39 - May 8 with 3078 views | Clapham_Junction |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:23 - May 8 by gainsboroughblue |
I'm sure I've read somewhere before that as part of the 1974 boundary changes, it was proposed that much of North Essex (including Clacton, Harwich and Colchester) would be moved to Suffolk. The argument mainly being that the two haven ports should be under the same county council. |
That was the Redclieff-Maud proposal, which was Labour planned to implement, but was cancelled after the Tories won the 1970 general elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcliffe-Maud_Report
Also in reference to the OP, Suffolk was actually divided into three until 1974; East Suffolk, West Suffolk and Ipswich County Borough. |  | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:11 - May 8 with 3041 views | EdwardStone |
Think of the Re-unification of East and West Germany in 1990... wild crowds cheering, families seperated for years able to meet, huge celebrations etc.
Well, it was nothing like that |  | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:50 - May 8 with 2959 views | DJR |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:20 - May 8 by factual_blue |
There were constant border skirmishes. |
For those of us in the east, it was known as the Wild West. |  | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:55 - May 8 with 2925 views | Keno |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:50 - May 8 by DJR |
For those of us in the east, it was known as the Wild West. |
It did stop the flood o£ refugees from the poorer deprived areas of Sudbury and Hadleigh to the East of the country during what history ha# reported as “the long march” |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:57 - May 8 with 2917 views | DJR |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:55 - May 8 by Keno |
It did stop the flood o£ refugees from the poorer deprived areas of Sudbury and Hadleigh to the East of the country during what history ha# reported as “the long march” |
But it did lead to no-go areas in border towns like Stowmarket, where there was a mix of people.
It wasn't quite like the Bogside, but not far off, and there was talk at one time of building a wall, like in Belfast, between the different communities. [Post edited 9 May 2023 15:19]
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:59 - May 8 with 2900 views | Keno |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:57 - May 8 by DJR |
But it did lead to no-go areas in border towns like Stowmarket, where there was a mix of people.
It wasn't quite like the Bogside, but not far off, and there was talk at one time of building a wall, like in Belfast, between the different communities. [Post edited 9 May 2023 15:19]
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Was the the upset that lead to period in needham market that became known as the Anarchy? | |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 21:09 - May 8 with 2869 views | mrshallisfit |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:20 - May 8 by factual_blue |
There were constant border skirmishes. |
Wickham Skeith had many a famous punch up. |  | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 21:48 - May 8 with 2787 views | ronnyd |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:20 - May 8 by factual_blue |
There were constant border skirmishes. |
Yes, the Boarder Reivers along the England/Scotland border had nothing on our lot.  | | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 07:54 - May 9 with 2595 views | hoppy |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 18:20 - May 8 by factual_blue |
There were constant border skirmishes. |
What had it been like before the divide? Could you sense something simmering? |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 08:49 - May 9 with 2506 views | solemio |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 21:09 - May 8 by mrshallisfit |
Wickham Skeith had many a famous punch up. |
He was an absolute top boxer, old Wickham Skeith. | | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 08:54 - May 9 with 2471 views | leitrimblue |
I remember in the late 80,s, long after the wall came down you could still spot those from the impoverished East. They were the ones with the moustache and mullet combo, happily driving their Lada,s around East Suffolk in their skin tight Lee Cooper jeans. |  | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 09:00 - May 9 with 2441 views | wkj |
My Grandad was a member of the West Suffolk Massive. He used to tell us that his gang would march toward Diss in the 60s with his ghetto blaster cranking out the sickest Jungleist beats when they fancied a scrap with the Bungay Boyz.
Sadly when the 70s hit they had to retreat to Haverhill where they planned to seek asylum in Cambridge. Needless to say when Happy Hardcore came about in 76' the entire of East Anglia were too messed up on disco biscuits to settle their boredom with a fight anymore.
Sad how modern days have really mutilated the simple pleasures of a golden generation. [Post edited 9 May 2023 9:02]
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:09 - May 9 with 2360 views | leitrimblue |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 09:00 - May 9 by wkj |
My Grandad was a member of the West Suffolk Massive. He used to tell us that his gang would march toward Diss in the 60s with his ghetto blaster cranking out the sickest Jungleist beats when they fancied a scrap with the Bungay Boyz.
Sadly when the 70s hit they had to retreat to Haverhill where they planned to seek asylum in Cambridge. Needless to say when Happy Hardcore came about in 76' the entire of East Anglia were too messed up on disco biscuits to settle their boredom with a fight anymore.
Sad how modern days have really mutilated the simple pleasures of a golden generation. [Post edited 9 May 2023 9:02]
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I remember the harrowing scenes from the refugee camps in Haverhill on John Cravens Newsround. Thank feck Geldoff got off is arse an tried to do something about it | | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:14 - May 9 with 2342 views | Keno |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:09 - May 9 by leitrimblue |
I remember the harrowing scenes from the refugee camps in Haverhill on John Cravens Newsround. Thank feck Geldoff got off is arse an tried to do something about it |
and least we forget how the settlers from the east of the county moved west along the trails forcing the native indigenous peoples into those desolate god forsaken reservations like Haverhill and Sudbury [Post edited 9 May 2023 12:14]
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:15 - May 9 with 2325 views | NthQldITFC |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:09 - May 9 by leitrimblue |
I remember the harrowing scenes from the refugee camps in Haverhill on John Cravens Newsround. Thank feck Geldoff got off is arse an tried to do something about it |
Geldoff was in it up to his nose though, and only trying to fend off investigations into his cornering of the radish market in '73. Had he not dropped the F Bomb it would have all been brushed under the carpet. |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:20 - May 9 with 2292 views | leitrimblue |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:14 - May 9 by Keno |
and least we forget how the settlers from the east of the county moved west along the trails forcing the native indigenous peoples into those desolate god forsaken reservations like Haverhill and Sudbury [Post edited 9 May 2023 12:14]
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But who could forget Princess Di,s trip to the Haverhill refugee camp. She looked so resplendent | | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:23 - May 9 with 2269 views | leitrimblue |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:15 - May 9 by NthQldITFC |
Geldoff was in it up to his nose though, and only trying to fend off investigations into his cornering of the radish market in '73. Had he not dropped the F Bomb it would have all been brushed under the carpet. |
It's hard to know Geldoffs full involvement or to what degree he was guilty of manipulating the radish market. Midge Ure and Paul Young on the other hand were clearly up to their necks in it | | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:37 - May 9 with 2220 views | Buhrer |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 20:50 - May 8 by DJR |
For those of us in the east, it was known as the Wild West. |
Those of us in the Peoples Democratic Republic of West Suffolk don't recognise the treaty and are technically still at war with the Eastern devils. |  | | |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:38 - May 9 with 2214 views | wkj |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:37 - May 9 by Buhrer |
Those of us in the Peoples Democratic Republic of West Suffolk don't recognise the treaty and are technically still at war with the Eastern devils. |
The Bungay Boys can do one if you ask me - sod of to Wangford I say | |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:59 - May 9 with 2181 views | Perublue |
The cod wars were nothing compared to the beer wars....The survivors crawled into no mans land cursing the breweries after gaining a new pub and losing it the same day...day after day...Greene King dominated as much as any can in this situation and Adnams supported by Tolly Cobbold held their lines bravely....stupidly.
There is a lot of wonderful poetry from this period. |  |
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| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 13:13 - May 9 with 2119 views | NthQldITFC |
| The old East Suffolk and West Suffolk counties? on 12:23 - May 9 by leitrimblue |
It's hard to know Geldoffs full involvement or to what degree he was guilty of manipulating the radish market. Midge Ure and Paul Young on the other hand were clearly up to their necks in it |
Both much shorter men, of course, on account of Ure not even being quite a midget and Paul being very young (at the time). | |
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