| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... 09:27 - May 25 with 2370 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
.....Brexit was obviously worth it!  |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:29 - May 25 with 1942 views | Herbivore |
That's not reverse logic, it's an absence of logic. |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:30 - May 25 with 1942 views | Keno |
I wouldnt joke, Look what happened last time Germany was in a bad recession..... |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:33 - May 25 with 1931 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:29 - May 25 by Herbivore |
That's not reverse logic, it's an absence of logic. |
Yeah you would defo never see anybody on here grabbing every available economic indicator to back up their political stance. That's never going to happen. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:50 - May 25 with 1904 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
German Govt spending dropped 5pc in the quarter - it’s almost like there’s a correlation.
Plus the UK added 600k+ consumers last year to keep our one dimensional economy afloat. |  | | |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:58 - May 25 with 1885 views | clive_baker |
Clearly absolute bobbins logic. Brexit is going to prove very damaging to the UK in the short, medium and long term, it's almost unquantifiable damage and will be via thousands of papercuts, not least the sentiment of our European neighbours towards trading with the UK as well as the practical barriers now.
What is true though is that it's not reasonable to point at every hardship we face and shout 'Brexit'. The global economic outlook is gloomy thanks to a whole host of reasons, Brexit is one of them. Had we not left the EU and all other things were still true the world would still be going to sh1t.
There's no credible argument that it's helped anything or anyone though. Sooner the UK rejoins and puts this expensive mess behind us the better. |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 10:05 - May 25 with 1872 views | giant_stow |
you'll get over it sooner or later. |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 10:27 - May 25 with 1824 views | Herbivore |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:33 - May 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Yeah you would defo never see anybody on here grabbing every available economic indicator to back up their political stance. That's never going to happen. |
You'd be on stronger ground if you were using an economic indicator that actually relates to the UK, which is what most folk do when looking at the economic impact of Brexit on the UK. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 10:30 - May 25 with 1811 views | BlueBadger |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 10:27 - May 25 by Herbivore |
You'd be on stronger ground if you were using an economic indicator that actually relates to the UK, which is what most folk do when looking at the economic impact of Brexit on the UK. |
In other news, the government's plan to build a high wage economy based round training young people to pick fruit may be in trouble, too.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/22/uk-fruit-exports-to-eu-have-dro |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 10:34 - May 25 with 1792 views | Herbivore |
Ah good old fruit picking, that well-known high wage, high skill sector. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 11:07 - May 25 with 1715 views | eireblue |
I think quite a few people pointed out Brexit was lose/lose. It was just a case of limiting the impact. |  | | |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 11:13 - May 25 with 1700 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:30 - May 25 by Keno |
I wouldnt joke, Look what happened last time Germany was in a bad recession..... |
Boris Becker won Wimbledon? |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 12:23 - May 25 with 1646 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:58 - May 25 by clive_baker |
Clearly absolute bobbins logic. Brexit is going to prove very damaging to the UK in the short, medium and long term, it's almost unquantifiable damage and will be via thousands of papercuts, not least the sentiment of our European neighbours towards trading with the UK as well as the practical barriers now.
What is true though is that it's not reasonable to point at every hardship we face and shout 'Brexit'. The global economic outlook is gloomy thanks to a whole host of reasons, Brexit is one of them. Had we not left the EU and all other things were still true the world would still be going to sh1t.
There's no credible argument that it's helped anything or anyone though. Sooner the UK rejoins and puts this expensive mess behind us the better. |
Agreed, absolute bobbins but you have at least grasped the wider point unlike some. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 12:25 - May 25 with 1639 views | Herbivore |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 12:23 - May 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Agreed, absolute bobbins but you have at least grasped the wider point unlike some. |
The wider point being that Brexit has been and will continue to be hugely damaging to the UK. I know you don't want to let go of your pipe dream but reality is staring you in the face and it does not approve of your stance. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 12:31 - May 25 with 1631 views | Ryorry |
Those good ol traditionally tory-voting British farmers who actually trusted the cons & voted 'Leave' in their droves must really be enjoying the fruits of their decision ... |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 13:07 - May 25 with 1574 views | BlueBadger |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 12:31 - May 25 by Ryorry |
Those good ol traditionally tory-voting British farmers who actually trusted the cons & voted 'Leave' in their droves must really be enjoying the fruits of their decision ... |
Sowing the seeds of their own ruin, innit. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 13:14 - May 25 with 1548 views | aardvaark |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 09:58 - May 25 by clive_baker |
Clearly absolute bobbins logic. Brexit is going to prove very damaging to the UK in the short, medium and long term, it's almost unquantifiable damage and will be via thousands of papercuts, not least the sentiment of our European neighbours towards trading with the UK as well as the practical barriers now.
What is true though is that it's not reasonable to point at every hardship we face and shout 'Brexit'. The global economic outlook is gloomy thanks to a whole host of reasons, Brexit is one of them. Had we not left the EU and all other things were still true the world would still be going to sh1t.
There's no credible argument that it's helped anything or anyone though. Sooner the UK rejoins and puts this expensive mess behind us the better. |
AGREE CLIVE 100% |  |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 13:16 - May 25 with 1541 views | BlueBadger |
Well that's a turn up. I thought you voted 'leave' just because you were a bit dim, not because you were a bit dm AND xenophobic. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 14:18 - May 25 with 1501 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 12:25 - May 25 by Herbivore |
The wider point being that Brexit has been and will continue to be hugely damaging to the UK. I know you don't want to let go of your pipe dream but reality is staring you in the face and it does not approve of your stance. |
What pipe dream would that be?
"The one small bit of hope that I cling on to is that more and more people seem to be waking up to the idea that government's and most of the media serve the interests of big business and the wealthy, and that those interests are antithetical to the best interests of the planet and most of the people who inhabit it."
One institution at a time comrade! | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 14:22 - May 25 with 1494 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 13:16 - May 25 by BlueBadger |
Well that's a turn up. I thought you voted 'leave' just because you were a bit dim, not because you were a bit dm AND xenophobic. |
Never change xx | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 14:48 - May 25 with 1439 views | Herbivore |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 14:18 - May 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What pipe dream would that be?
"The one small bit of hope that I cling on to is that more and more people seem to be waking up to the idea that government's and most of the media serve the interests of big business and the wealthy, and that those interests are antithetical to the best interests of the planet and most of the people who inhabit it."
One institution at a time comrade! |
We differ in that I think we need global cooperation to bring about any meaningful change, whereas you still cling to a 19th century version of anarchosyndicalism whereby twenty mill workers can kickstart societal change by taking control of their mill from the owner. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 16:57 - May 25 with 1381 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 14:48 - May 25 by Herbivore |
We differ in that I think we need global cooperation to bring about any meaningful change, whereas you still cling to a 19th century version of anarchosyndicalism whereby twenty mill workers can kickstart societal change by taking control of their mill from the owner. |
OK so government works in the interests of business and elites as you stated earlier except for really big governments which are an embodiment of the Internationale.
I'll stick with my pipe dream thanks. | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 18:22 - May 25 with 1297 views | HARRY10 |
Do keep up old fellow, that was post on here 4 days ago.
Folk will begin to think you are the Daily Mail (stale) if you keep posting old news | | | |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 18:29 - May 25 with 1288 views | HARRY10 |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 14:48 - May 25 by Herbivore |
We differ in that I think we need global cooperation to bring about any meaningful change, whereas you still cling to a 19th century version of anarchosyndicalism whereby twenty mill workers can kickstart societal change by taking control of their mill from the owner. |
His is the old Tokyoite line about being in the vanguard of disputes as those struggles will usually fail, so will lead the workers to realise that only through having an educated and organised political class can revolution be brought about - no prizes for guessing who that elite cadre are...SWP, WRP, RCP, bankster (our very own Rick, Young Ones) | | | |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 19:49 - May 25 with 1239 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 18:29 - May 25 by HARRY10 |
His is the old Tokyoite line about being in the vanguard of disputes as those struggles will usually fail, so will lead the workers to realise that only through having an educated and organised political class can revolution be brought about - no prizes for guessing who that elite cadre are...SWP, WRP, RCP, bankster (our very own Rick, Young Ones) |
Would you feel threatened by educated and politically aware workers Harry? | |
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| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 23:28 - May 25 with 1170 views | HARRY10 |
| Some reverse logic......Germany is in recession so..... on 19:49 - May 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Would you feel threatened by educated and politically aware workers Harry? |
"no prizes for guessing who that elite cadre are."
That is rather ironic from some I perceive to be a Trot. Someone who does not believe the masses can reach about a certain level of understanding, and so need this elite group to lead them.
If you are talking about education, then I do not consider lying to workers that their demands can be met, in order for those demands to fail........ and so come to the conclusion that capitalism cannot be reformed and needs an educated elite to lead them to the promised land, err comrade.
I hate to think how many youngsters had been used, then disillusioned of politics after encounters with these bedsit rrrrrr revolutionairies. | | | |
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