| So we've had best ever managers... 15:42 - Sep 7 with 3916 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck | With the worse ones all being exclusively Marcus Evans appointments. What about best and worse ME era players 11s? My best has to be.. Bartosz Białkowski Luke Chambers Tommy Smith Christoph Berra Aaron Cresswell Paul Anderson Cole Skuse Celina Teddy Bishop Daryl Murphy David McGoldrick Worst... Will Norris Jordan Spence James Bree Matthew Pennington Callum Elder Simon Dawkins Josh Harrop Luke Thomas Jordan Roberts Oliver Hawkins Keanan Bennetts |  | | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:43 - Sep 7 with 3200 views | BlueBadger | How do you write a 'worst of Evans' list and manage to exclude Jonathan Douglas and Paul Taylor? |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:46 - Sep 7 with 3177 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:43 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger | How do you write a 'worst of Evans' list and manage to exclude Jonathan Douglas and Paul Taylor? |
Because we had significantly worse players than them during his ownership? Douglas was a better central midfielder for us than say even a Nolan was, at least in the Championship, as Nolan wasn't good enough to be in the football league let alone the Championship whereas Douglas was just past it. Also Taylor was a better forward than a ton we had here during that time, Ellis Harrison, Quaner, Troy Parrott... Aaron Drinan ... God we were spoiled. |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:48 - Sep 7 with 3168 views | homer_123 | |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:49 - Sep 7 with 3154 views | BlueBadger |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:46 - Sep 7 by ChampionsofInnsbruck | Because we had significantly worse players than them during his ownership? Douglas was a better central midfielder for us than say even a Nolan was, at least in the Championship, as Nolan wasn't good enough to be in the football league let alone the Championship whereas Douglas was just past it. Also Taylor was a better forward than a ton we had here during that time, Ellis Harrison, Quaner, Troy Parrott... Aaron Drinan ... God we were spoiled. |
But they featured far more and in Taylor's case came with a big fee as well. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:57 - Sep 7 with 3126 views | Mach_foreignBlue | Gleeson, Coke and Toure has to be in that worst 11. |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:57 - Sep 7 with 3134 views | Cheltenham_Blue | Bit unfair to put Luke Thomas in there, who was going through some severe mental health issues at the time. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:00 - Sep 7 with 3118 views | CobboldCrusty |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:57 - Sep 7 by Cheltenham_Blue | Bit unfair to put Luke Thomas in there, who was going through some severe mental health issues at the time. |
A good point - kind of gets to the heart of why this just isn't a very nice thing to do as well |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:05 - Sep 7 with 3098 views | Reus30 |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:57 - Sep 7 by Cheltenham_Blue | Bit unfair to put Luke Thomas in there, who was going through some severe mental health issues at the time. |
You're right, we should give him a pass and put him on the best list instead... It is possible to completely separate the on-field and off-field and it's not a personal attack on the fella. He just was a flop whilst at Town. Fairly similar situation to Sancho at United regarding the MH aspect (and how desperate the situation is/was), it doesn't mean he isn't a failure at the club. Worst player in the ME era - Dobra. I don't get it, why did he ever get game time whilst we were in L1. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:06 - Sep 7 with 3087 views | BlueBadger |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:05 - Sep 7 by Reus30 | You're right, we should give him a pass and put him on the best list instead... It is possible to completely separate the on-field and off-field and it's not a personal attack on the fella. He just was a flop whilst at Town. Fairly similar situation to Sancho at United regarding the MH aspect (and how desperate the situation is/was), it doesn't mean he isn't a failure at the club. Worst player in the ME era - Dobra. I don't get it, why did he ever get game time whilst we were in L1. |
Literally no one is saying that. Just that he doesn't deserve to be on a 'worst ever' because of his health issues. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:30 - Sep 7 with 3019 views | Reus30 |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:06 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger | Literally no one is saying that. Just that he doesn't deserve to be on a 'worst ever' because of his health issues. |
At the exact same time, no one said worse ever. It literally was a pile of players categorised into Best and Worse. Certainly we can skip Thomas and leave him out altogether because of his situation but the OP has put them in worse which is fair enough. I wouldn't put him there because there is a least 30 players more worth of a worst tag but he wasn't a success either. It's akin to Ulrich Le Pen ffs. The fact that I am typing this just makes me want the football to return - this forum is one step away from being a meme with some of the posts. We are all so bored we have about 20 ranking topics. The subjectivity of rankings in general means it's just a pointless exercise dealing in controversial opinions and bs. EDIT: Also, to be fair, I didn't realise it was one of TWTDs infamous trolls posting the OP. I apologise. [Post edited 7 Sep 2023 16:32]
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 18:25 - Sep 7 with 2920 views | BlueBadger |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:30 - Sep 7 by Reus30 | At the exact same time, no one said worse ever. It literally was a pile of players categorised into Best and Worse. Certainly we can skip Thomas and leave him out altogether because of his situation but the OP has put them in worse which is fair enough. I wouldn't put him there because there is a least 30 players more worth of a worst tag but he wasn't a success either. It's akin to Ulrich Le Pen ffs. The fact that I am typing this just makes me want the football to return - this forum is one step away from being a meme with some of the posts. We are all so bored we have about 20 ranking topics. The subjectivity of rankings in general means it's just a pointless exercise dealing in controversial opinions and bs. EDIT: Also, to be fair, I didn't realise it was one of TWTDs infamous trolls posting the OP. I apologise. [Post edited 7 Sep 2023 16:32]
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You're literally whining about a lack of football posts, in a thread about football, chuckles. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 19:47 - Sep 7 with 2872 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:43 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger | How do you write a 'worst of Evans' list and manage to exclude Jonathan Douglas and Paul Taylor? |
And Nathan Ellington. A good shout out to Ingimarsson in terms of pointlessness too. Trouble is, we’ll be here until we’re all retired listing the dross we had during the Evans era. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 19:55 - Sep 7 with 2859 views | Herbivore |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 16:05 - Sep 7 by Reus30 | You're right, we should give him a pass and put him on the best list instead... It is possible to completely separate the on-field and off-field and it's not a personal attack on the fella. He just was a flop whilst at Town. Fairly similar situation to Sancho at United regarding the MH aspect (and how desperate the situation is/was), it doesn't mean he isn't a failure at the club. Worst player in the ME era - Dobra. I don't get it, why did he ever get game time whilst we were in L1. |
Terrible trolling all round. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 20:03 - Sep 7 with 2846 views | BlueBadger |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 19:55 - Sep 7 by Herbivore | Terrible trolling all round. |
The standard on trolling on here at the moment is piss-poor. It's either uber-weak budgies trying to Express Concerns or right wing loons offering mad takes. Even Chico can't be arsed at the moment and is just recycling old Hitchens(P) material. |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 20:18 - Sep 7 with 2790 views | BlueandTruesince82 | Norris? How did you get to Norris? |  |
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 01:10 - Sep 8 with 2664 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 19:47 - Sep 7 by Swansea_Blue | And Nathan Ellington. A good shout out to Ingimarsson in terms of pointlessness too. Trouble is, we’ll be here until we’re all retired listing the dross we had during the Evans era. |
It was such a terrible time, I genuinely can't recall some of these players who played for us in that era. I'm like... 'who?' |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 07:57 - Sep 8 with 2571 views | Herbivore |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 20:18 - Sep 7 by BlueandTruesince82 | Norris? How did you get to Norris? |
Whilst I don't necessarily agree with the OP on Norris being included, at the best part of £3m he wasn't exactly good value. A technically limited and bang average Championship midfielder really. If we're talking about worst signings rather than worst players then the fee has to be taken into consideration. When you're scratching around for free transfers from far flung places, you're always going to have more misses than hits. When you're spending a decent wedge, you expect a bit more quality. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 7:58]
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| So we've had best ever managers... on 08:11 - Sep 8 with 2549 views | RobTheMonk | That worst 11 defence is missing Malacyzk, Ingimarsson and Fryers. My word, imagine those three in a defence.. Didn't think Jordan Roberts was awful. The rest of that frontline though - bloody hell lol. |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 09:04 - Sep 8 with 2521 views | solemio |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 19:47 - Sep 7 by Swansea_Blue | And Nathan Ellington. A good shout out to Ingimarsson in terms of pointlessness too. Trouble is, we’ll be here until we’re all retired listing the dross we had during the Evans era. |
If you were doing a thread about players who were very much worse at ITFC than they were at a previous club then Ellington would certainly be near the top of the list. He really was a very good player for Wigan, although that was a few years before he came to us. Slater? |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 09:14 - Sep 8 with 2509 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 07:57 - Sep 8 by Herbivore | Whilst I don't necessarily agree with the OP on Norris being included, at the best part of £3m he wasn't exactly good value. A technically limited and bang average Championship midfielder really. If we're talking about worst signings rather than worst players then the fee has to be taken into consideration. When you're scratching around for free transfers from far flung places, you're always going to have more misses than hits. When you're spending a decent wedge, you expect a bit more quality. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 7:58]
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Norris should be on there for that goal ‘celebration’ alone. Not fit to wear the shirt. |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 09:19 - Sep 8 with 2496 views | PrideOfTheEast | Dos Santos, Mings, Webster, |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 10:16 - Sep 8 with 2461 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 07:57 - Sep 8 by Herbivore | Whilst I don't necessarily agree with the OP on Norris being included, at the best part of £3m he wasn't exactly good value. A technically limited and bang average Championship midfielder really. If we're talking about worst signings rather than worst players then the fee has to be taken into consideration. When you're scratching around for free transfers from far flung places, you're always going to have more misses than hits. When you're spending a decent wedge, you expect a bit more quality. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 7:58]
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Will Norris, you berk. |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 12:35 - Sep 8 with 2395 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 15:49 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger | But they featured far more and in Taylor's case came with a big fee as well. |
I am not arguing that Taylor wasn't a bad signing, although in terms of worst performing players under ME, forwards such as Best, Ellington, Ebanks-Blake, Bajner and co were far worse than Taylor was in an Ipswich shirt. |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 12:50 - Sep 8 with 2148 views | SWBlue22 |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 12:35 - Sep 8 by ChampionsofInnsbruck | I am not arguing that Taylor wasn't a bad signing, although in terms of worst performing players under ME, forwards such as Best, Ellington, Ebanks-Blake, Bajner and co were far worse than Taylor was in an Ipswich shirt. |
Frank Nouble ? |  | |  |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 12:55 - Sep 8 with 687 views | Herbivore |
| So we've had best ever managers... on 10:16 - Sep 8 by FoghornGleghorn | Will Norris, you berk. |
No need to be rude. I assumed the poster I was responding to was talking about the other Norris, because frankly I can't see why anyone would be remotely surprised at Will Norris being in there. I didn't properly read the OP as it's from a budgie troll. |  |
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