| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... 11:12 - Apr 15 with 3609 views | ITFC_Forever |
.... to the Saturday lunchtime from the Thursday evening I would suspect.
The provisional schdule released a couple of weeks ago was / is subject to change, and we know from 2015, the police can have an input into when the games will be played - it was because of police advise we played two Saturday lunchtime games then. |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:23 - Apr 15 with 3520 views | ParisBlue |
2x midday kick-offs in the play-offs
What could possibly go wrong...?
Let's just hope we avoid the play-offs altogether. |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:48 - Apr 15 with 3411 views | Europablue |
If we end up in the playoffs we could play West Brom if they finish 5th and we finish 4th or if they finish 6th, or we could play Norwich with the same outcomes. More likely, we will come second. I'm not going to worry about playing Norwich, but I do hate those 12:30 KOs. |  | | |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 12:25 - Apr 15 with 3236 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:48 - Apr 15 by Europablue |
If we end up in the playoffs we could play West Brom if they finish 5th and we finish 4th or if they finish 6th, or we could play Norwich with the same outcomes. More likely, we will come second. I'm not going to worry about playing Norwich, but I do hate those 12:30 KOs. |
I'd say it's looking pretty likely Norwich end up finishing 5th. West Brom not picking up many points at the moment. |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 12:41 - Apr 15 with 3156 views | Bent_double |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:48 - Apr 15 by Europablue |
If we end up in the playoffs we could play West Brom if they finish 5th and we finish 4th or if they finish 6th, or we could play Norwich with the same outcomes. More likely, we will come second. I'm not going to worry about playing Norwich, but I do hate those 12:30 KOs. |
Trouble is, the team seem to hate them too, as we don't win those games |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 21:33 - Apr 15 with 2711 views | Stewart27 |
Yeah the East Anglian derby couldn’t possibly be played in the afternoon let alone the evening like every other derby in the country. | | | |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 21:39 - Apr 15 with 2687 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 21:33 - Apr 15 by Stewart27 |
Yeah the East Anglian derby couldn’t possibly be played in the afternoon let alone the evening like every other derby in the country. |
All that trouble where Delia nearly lost her life is testament to why it is far too dangerous. |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 06:26 - Apr 16 with 2413 views | textbackup |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 12:41 - Apr 15 by Bent_double |
Trouble is, the team seem to hate them too, as we don't win those games |
Without sounding harsh, if other clubs/teams can deal with them… why can’t we? |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:05 - Apr 16 with 2365 views | ITFC_Forever |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 21:33 - Apr 15 by Stewart27 |
Yeah the East Anglian derby couldn’t possibly be played in the afternoon let alone the evening like every other derby in the country. |
I know that and you know that.
But we aren’t the local police…. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:15 - Apr 16 with 2346 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Everyone knows that the Play-Offs aren't a fair means of deciding promotion, but at least there is a nod given to the advantage of finishing higher - which is that the higher placed team plays the second leg at home under the lights where the atmosphere is electric. Also the timing of the two pairs of semis, so that there is a similar recovery time prior to the final.
If plod intervenes and insists on a Saturday lunchtime ko, they are interfering with the very integrity of the competition. That advantage of finishing higher (by around 20 points) is gone.
Imagine if those puke-coloured six-fingered sister botherers were to progress at our expense on our patch, after we finished 20 points ahead. Whether it was a lunchtime or not, there would be loads of trouble. Plod's best bet, if it transpires that we are in the POs and get them, would be to let it go ahead as an evening game and hope that we win. |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:33 - Apr 16 with 2307 views | unbelievablue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:15 - Apr 16 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Everyone knows that the Play-Offs aren't a fair means of deciding promotion, but at least there is a nod given to the advantage of finishing higher - which is that the higher placed team plays the second leg at home under the lights where the atmosphere is electric. Also the timing of the two pairs of semis, so that there is a similar recovery time prior to the final.
If plod intervenes and insists on a Saturday lunchtime ko, they are interfering with the very integrity of the competition. That advantage of finishing higher (by around 20 points) is gone.
Imagine if those puke-coloured six-fingered sister botherers were to progress at our expense on our patch, after we finished 20 points ahead. Whether it was a lunchtime or not, there would be loads of trouble. Plod's best bet, if it transpires that we are in the POs and get them, would be to let it go ahead as an evening game and hope that we win. |
The biggest advantage is retained: playing at home second.
It would be very annoying though. |  |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:47 - Apr 16 with 2272 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:33 - Apr 16 by unbelievablue |
The biggest advantage is retained: playing at home second.
It would be very annoying though. |
Not if its a lunchtime ko. Playing first gives the lower placed team the best chance of getting a lead going into the second leg. A lunchtime ko, when it is much harder to generate atmosphere, against a team sitting on a lead and countering? No thanks. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 08:24 - Apr 16 with 2198 views | Stewart27 |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:47 - Apr 16 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Not if its a lunchtime ko. Playing first gives the lower placed team the best chance of getting a lead going into the second leg. A lunchtime ko, when it is much harder to generate atmosphere, against a team sitting on a lead and countering? No thanks. |
This a million times over.
We will be absolutely robbed if it moves to a Saturday lunch time.
If that situation arises! | | | |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 08:45 - Apr 16 with 2149 views | yorkshireblue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:47 - Apr 16 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Not if its a lunchtime ko. Playing first gives the lower placed team the best chance of getting a lead going into the second leg. A lunchtime ko, when it is much harder to generate atmosphere, against a team sitting on a lead and countering? No thanks. |
It would be interesting if they tweaked the rules slightly and let the team that finished higher decide if they player at home or away first, in predetermined games slots.
First leg A played at X time/date
First leg B played at X time/date
Second Leg A played at X time/date
Second Leg B played at X time/date
Team who finished 3rd gets first dibs on the games, then the team that finishes 4th.
I wonder how many teams would keep it as is and play the second leg at home no matter what? Or would like you say, the times of the games come into thinking. |  | | |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:02 - Apr 16 with 2067 views | unbelievablue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 07:47 - Apr 16 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Not if its a lunchtime ko. Playing first gives the lower placed team the best chance of getting a lead going into the second leg. A lunchtime ko, when it is much harder to generate atmosphere, against a team sitting on a lead and countering? No thanks. |
Regardless of kick-off times, the team playing at home second has an advantage. [Post edited 16 Apr 2024 9:03]
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:20 - Apr 16 with 2002 views | Bent_double |
Isn't it just that though - 'advice' - the police can't force the KO time to be changed, can they? I'm sure this has been debated before. Can the club just stick to their guns and say no, 3pm or 7.45pm KO? | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:42 - Apr 16 with 1941 views | itfctilidie |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:20 - Apr 16 by Bent_double |
Isn't it just that though - 'advice' - the police can't force the KO time to be changed, can they? I'm sure this has been debated before. Can the club just stick to their guns and say no, 3pm or 7.45pm KO? |
For clarification - https://www.efl.com/governance/regulations/#heading-administration-and-arrangeme
Section 28 - Kick Off Times - The Home Club shall fix the time.
There is a guidance part which notes -
Should circumstances change which necessitate a request for a change of kick-off time (i.e. police intelligence) and it is not mutually agreed, The League will request and consider the views of both Clubs before determining whether to approve such request.
I had a brief look over it and can't see anywhere that police are able to decide anything regarding fixtures - also doesn't stipulate anything about policing at matches so could be within another document somewhere |  | | |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:43 - Apr 16 with 1933 views | unbelievablue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:42 - Apr 16 by itfctilidie |
For clarification - https://www.efl.com/governance/regulations/#heading-administration-and-arrangeme
Section 28 - Kick Off Times - The Home Club shall fix the time.
There is a guidance part which notes -
Should circumstances change which necessitate a request for a change of kick-off time (i.e. police intelligence) and it is not mutually agreed, The League will request and consider the views of both Clubs before determining whether to approve such request.
I had a brief look over it and can't see anywhere that police are able to decide anything regarding fixtures - also doesn't stipulate anything about policing at matches so could be within another document somewhere |
From my understanding, clubs are liable for extra policing costs which is why they tend to acquiesce in these situations. Playoffs might change that, I suppose. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:49 - Apr 16 with 1889 views | Zx1988 |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:43 - Apr 16 by unbelievablue |
From my understanding, clubs are liable for extra policing costs which is why they tend to acquiesce in these situations. Playoffs might change that, I suppose. |
Do safety certificates not come into play as well?
With Suffolk Constabulary forming part of the Safety Advisory Group, could they potentially refuse to issue a safety certificate for the match if they feel that the club is not listening to their advice on safety matters? | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:05 - Apr 16 with 1845 views | Lord_Lucan |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 09:43 - Apr 16 by unbelievablue |
From my understanding, clubs are liable for extra policing costs which is why they tend to acquiesce in these situations. Playoffs might change that, I suppose. |
When we played them on a Thursday evening last time it was absolute carnage.
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:06 - Apr 16 with 1839 views | unbelievablue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:05 - Apr 16 by Lord_Lucan |
When we played them on a Thursday evening last time it was absolute carnage.
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I enjoyed our pint in Old Orleans. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:35 - Apr 16 with 1792 views | Bent_double |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:05 - Apr 16 by Lord_Lucan |
When we played them on a Thursday evening last time it was absolute carnage.
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More to do with the result than anything else though, surely?  | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:50 - Apr 16 with 1756 views | unbelievablue |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:35 - Apr 16 by Bent_double |
More to do with the result than anything else though, surely? |
It was lively before. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:02 - Apr 16 with 1711 views | Bent_double |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:50 - Apr 16 by unbelievablue |
It was lively before. |
Was it? Ok, I wasn't there, just suffered from afar. I suppose the fact it was the start of a 4 day BH weekend added fuel to the fire too. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:19 - Apr 16 with 1672 views | Lord_Lucan |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 10:35 - Apr 16 by Bent_double |
More to do with the result than anything else though, surely? |
It was chaos all day.
The few Norwich that turned up hid in Frankie and Bennys. | |
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| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:21 - Apr 16 with 1666 views | textbackup |
| If we end up in the POs v Norwich - home game likely to be moved... on 11:19 - Apr 16 by Lord_Lucan |
It was chaos all day.
The few Norwich that turned up hid in Frankie and Bennys. |
But soon had to run out the front door after some Town went in the back door! | |
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