| Broja... 08:36 - Aug 31 with 2383 views | muccletonjoe |
Will be interesting to see what the date is when he turns out for Everton. |  | | |  |
| Broja... on 09:08 - Aug 31 with 2292 views | Basuco |
And how many times he plays as well, it is a risky signing for anyone. |  | | |
| Broja... on 09:13 - Aug 31 with 2252 views | homer_123 |
| Broja... on 09:08 - Aug 31 by Basuco |
And how many times he plays as well, it is a risky signing for anyone. |
It's a risk signing anyone. |  |
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| Broja... on 09:31 - Aug 31 with 2181 views | DBaldy |
For pure comedy timing I expect he'll be fit to play us on 19th October. |  | | |
| Broja... on 09:35 - Aug 31 with 2147 views | MK1 |
| Broja... on 09:13 - Aug 31 by homer_123 |
It's a risk signing anyone. |
When they are reported as injured when you sign them, then I would say it is a much bigger risk. |  |
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| Broja... on 10:36 - Aug 31 with 2044 views | FrimleyBlue |
I'd like to know just our of curiosity. Who decides when he's declared fit for Everton to begin paying his wage.. |  |
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| Broja... on 10:39 - Aug 31 with 2027 views | Trequartista |
I still don't understand what happened last night. We walked away because we didn't like the deal with a £30m obligation and Everton got a £30m option.
So were we still not satisfied with a £30m option? What more did we want, an option is favourable to the buying team? Either that or Chelsea offered Everton a deal that they wouldn't offer Ipswich. Why would they do that? |  |
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| Broja... on 10:41 - Aug 31 with 1998 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Broja... on 10:39 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
I still don't understand what happened last night. We walked away because we didn't like the deal with a £30m obligation and Everton got a £30m option.
So were we still not satisfied with a £30m option? What more did we want, an option is favourable to the buying team? Either that or Chelsea offered Everton a deal that they wouldn't offer Ipswich. Why would they do that? |
Imo the most obvious potential answer is Everton have agreed to pay the full wage once he's fit whilst we were happy to pay a % of those wages.
I doubt we'd have pulled out over an option of £30 mill as you're in control. But the wages I imagine was the sticky point and the most obvious potential disagreement. | |
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| Broja... on 10:42 - Aug 31 with 1998 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Broja... on 10:39 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
I still don't understand what happened last night. We walked away because we didn't like the deal with a £30m obligation and Everton got a £30m option.
So were we still not satisfied with a £30m option? What more did we want, an option is favourable to the buying team? Either that or Chelsea offered Everton a deal that they wouldn't offer Ipswich. Why would they do that? |
I think we moved our loan spot onto Reiss Nelson, shifted out Harness in the expectation Nelson was coming then saw that collapse at the last minute. |  |
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| Broja... on 10:45 - Aug 31 with 1962 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Broja... on 10:42 - Aug 31 by GlasgowBlue |
I think we moved our loan spot onto Reiss Nelson, shifted out Harness in the expectation Nelson was coming then saw that collapse at the last minute. |
I thought that about harness. But apparently we pulled the plug on the Nelson deal. | |
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| Broja... on 10:51 - Aug 31 with 1917 views | Trequartista |
| Broja... on 10:42 - Aug 31 by GlasgowBlue |
I think we moved our loan spot onto Reiss Nelson, shifted out Harness in the expectation Nelson was coming then saw that collapse at the last minute. |
All true, but doesn't really solve my understanding re: Broja. i.e. if a £30m option was an option, why didn't we take it instead of moving onto Nelson, a winger. | |
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| Broja... on 10:51 - Aug 31 with 1910 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Broja... on 10:42 - Aug 31 by GlasgowBlue |
I think we moved our loan spot onto Reiss Nelson, shifted out Harness in the expectation Nelson was coming then saw that collapse at the last minute. |
This is my guess and when Chelsea saw we were using up our premier loan spots they lowered their negotiating parameters and accepted the option to buy.
I say this as I don’t know why we wouldn’t have gone for the option and if as reported Chelsea’s are paying wages until fit.
The only risk to us is we would have had to move out another from the 25 squad as presumably we’d keep Ali in case the injury took a while. |  |
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| Broja... on 10:52 - Aug 31 with 1901 views | Trequartista |
| Broja... on 10:41 - Aug 31 by FrimleyBlue |
Imo the most obvious potential answer is Everton have agreed to pay the full wage once he's fit whilst we were happy to pay a % of those wages.
I doubt we'd have pulled out over an option of £30 mill as you're in control. But the wages I imagine was the sticky point and the most obvious potential disagreement. |
Possible, but you'd have thought Everton would have come in earlier than the last minute if they had that advantage. | |
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| Broja... on 10:57 - Aug 31 with 1813 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Broja... on 10:52 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
Possible, but you'd have thought Everton would have come in earlier than the last minute if they had that advantage. |
And how did Everton get a medical done so quickly if they went in at the last minute? | |
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| Broja... on 10:59 - Aug 31 with 1793 views | Trequartista |
| Broja... on 10:57 - Aug 31 by GlasgowBlue |
And how did Everton get a medical done so quickly if they went in at the last minute? |
I hadn't considered that. Perhaps they just relied on our medical. | |
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| Broja... on 11:05 - Aug 31 with 1719 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Broja... on 10:59 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
I hadn't considered that. Perhaps they just relied on our medical. |
Which is over a week old. Anything could have happened since then. All very odd. | |
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| Broja... on 11:10 - Aug 31 with 1684 views | Trequartista |
| Broja... on 11:05 - Aug 31 by GlasgowBlue |
Which is over a week old. Anything could have happened since then. All very odd. |
Smoke and mirrors isn't it. I was actually pleased we didn't sign Broja on a £30m obligation, I don't think that was a good deal, but a £30m option would have been good. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 11:10]
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| Broja... on 11:11 - Aug 31 with 1642 views | OldFart71 |
25th May 2025. | | | |
| Broja... on 11:57 - Aug 31 with 1517 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Broja... on 10:51 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
All true, but doesn't really solve my understanding re: Broja. i.e. if a £30m option was an option, why didn't we take it instead of moving onto Nelson, a winger. |
My guess is that Chelsea were unwilling to move on the deal with us, but decided to offer it Everton, presumably because they will be paying more wages. |  |
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| Broja... on 12:01 - Aug 31 with 1485 views | berkstractorboy |
| Broja... on 10:45 - Aug 31 by FrimleyBlue |
I thought that about harness. But apparently we pulled the plug on the Nelson deal. |
Ornstein reported it as Nelson spoke to us and he decided not to join the project so don't think it was us. | | | |
| Broja... on 12:04 - Aug 31 with 1470 views | berkstractorboy |
| Broja... on 10:39 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
I still don't understand what happened last night. We walked away because we didn't like the deal with a £30m obligation and Everton got a £30m option.
So were we still not satisfied with a £30m option? What more did we want, an option is favourable to the buying team? Either that or Chelsea offered Everton a deal that they wouldn't offer Ipswich. Why would they do that? |
So Fabrizio has posted info on the deal which is with the option at 30M so for this season its essentially a straight loan and then EFC decide to buy at 30M or not at all.
The interesting part is the wages which is where I think our deal could have been different. Chelsea continue to pay wages until Broja is fit, once he is fit to play then EFC take on ALL of the wages.
I suspect we were never in a position to afford all the wages and hence we couldn't negotiate the deal EFC did. | | | |
| Broja... on 12:08 - Aug 31 with 1419 views | Trequartista |
| Broja... on 12:04 - Aug 31 by berkstractorboy |
So Fabrizio has posted info on the deal which is with the option at 30M so for this season its essentially a straight loan and then EFC decide to buy at 30M or not at all.
The interesting part is the wages which is where I think our deal could have been different. Chelsea continue to pay wages until Broja is fit, once he is fit to play then EFC take on ALL of the wages.
I suspect we were never in a position to afford all the wages and hence we couldn't negotiate the deal EFC did. |
I would be surprised if a "until he is fit" clause is in a contract as that's quite a subjective statement to put into an objective document. Could just be that Everton are paying more wages than us, but then why weren't Everton involved earlier ? Surely the agents around the deal would know of their interest and how that would be a better deal for Chelsea. | |
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| Broja... on 12:19 - Aug 31 with 1332 views | berkstractorboy |
| Broja... on 12:08 - Aug 31 by Trequartista |
I would be surprised if a "until he is fit" clause is in a contract as that's quite a subjective statement to put into an objective document. Could just be that Everton are paying more wages than us, but then why weren't Everton involved earlier ? Surely the agents around the deal would know of their interest and how that would be a better deal for Chelsea. |
The post from Fabrizio is on one of the "Broja" threads I just replied to. Definitely says CFC pay until fit but you are right who determines what "fit" actually means, ready to train, match squad ready etc.
Everton are said to have been interested all summer but couldn't afford it earlier. But why now then as they've not sold anyone and also got Mangala on loan too. | | | |
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