| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) 16:32 - Sep 20 with 5257 views | MK1 |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 19:33 - Sep 20 with 3508 views | Swansea_Blue |
Phil waving his ban hammer around again. It’s like North Korea on here these days. You can’t even leak club secrets and be vile about foreigners anymore. |  |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:47 - Sep 21 with 3166 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 19:33 - Sep 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Phil waving his ban hammer around again. It’s like North Korea on here these days. You can’t even leak club secrets and be vile about foreigners anymore. |
I know I'm being thick, but what was said? Do people on here really think they know what side McKenna is going to pick on Saturday? And even if they do, what harm is done? These PL clubs do their homework on all the sides they play. They know who we have and who is most likely to play and where, so who cares if somebody post the side they think McKenna will select? Most of us could have a good stab at what the line up will be. Are we not taking ourselves a little bit to seriously on here? | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:53 - Sep 21 with 3131 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:47 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
I know I'm being thick, but what was said? Do people on here really think they know what side McKenna is going to pick on Saturday? And even if they do, what harm is done? These PL clubs do their homework on all the sides they play. They know who we have and who is most likely to play and where, so who cares if somebody post the side they think McKenna will select? Most of us could have a good stab at what the line up will be. Are we not taking ourselves a little bit to seriously on here? |
A difference between predicting a line up and posting what the actual line up is - and there are plenty of people that know the team every week. It's daft to post it on here though. What benefit do you gain other than 'look at me, I am in the know'.
Any leak obviously plays into the oppositions hands as Southampton won't know if we have a regular starter injured. |  | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:54 - Sep 21 with 3112 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:47 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
I know I'm being thick, but what was said? Do people on here really think they know what side McKenna is going to pick on Saturday? And even if they do, what harm is done? These PL clubs do their homework on all the sides they play. They know who we have and who is most likely to play and where, so who cares if somebody post the side they think McKenna will select? Most of us could have a good stab at what the line up will be. Are we not taking ourselves a little bit to seriously on here? |
It’s a well known fact that opposition teams have an army of intel analysts who trawl football fan forums quantifying variables and feedback/recommend team selection and tactics based on said conclusions. |  |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:56 - Sep 21 with 3079 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:54 - Sep 21 by BLUEBEAT |
It’s a well known fact that opposition teams have an army of intel analysts who trawl football fan forums quantifying variables and feedback/recommend team selection and tactics based on said conclusions. |
You'd be surprised. | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:57 - Sep 21 with 3051 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:56 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
You'd be surprised. |
I’m really not | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:59 - Sep 21 with 3033 views | IPS_wich |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:54 - Sep 21 by BLUEBEAT |
It’s a well known fact that opposition teams have an army of intel analysts who trawl football fan forums quantifying variables and feedback/recommend team selection and tactics based on said conclusions. |
It’s also a well known fact that Phil got banned from ITFC press conferences 4-5 years ago because fans leaked the line up on this forum.
For all the effort Phil puts into this place I think it’s quite reasonable he doesn’t want this type of thing stirred up again. Sure, it’s a different regime at the helm of the club, but maybe we respect Phil’s right to draw the line sometimes. [Post edited 21 Sep 2024 9:00]
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:01 - Sep 21 with 2997 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:57 - Sep 21 by BLUEBEAT |
I’m really not |
I know for a fact that one football club (so I would assume happens generally) used to go through oppositions forums looking for the type of information you put up earlier. | | | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:01 - Sep 21 with 2998 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:53 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
A difference between predicting a line up and posting what the actual line up is - and there are plenty of people that know the team every week. It's daft to post it on here though. What benefit do you gain other than 'look at me, I am in the know'.
Any leak obviously plays into the oppositions hands as Southampton won't know if we have a regular starter injured. |
Do they actually know though? I reckon McKenna has probably woken up this morning to the news that somebody hasn't come through training as they hoped they would, or alike. The line up can change many times between 12 noon on a Friday and 2pm on a Saturday. I think people are really over exaggerating if they think Southampton will base their line up and tactics based on something they read on here. I hope they are and would maybe go someway to explaining their terrible form under Martin, but come on. | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:04 - Sep 21 with 2951 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:01 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
I know for a fact that one football club (so I would assume happens generally) used to go through oppositions forums looking for the type of information you put up earlier. |
They are not going to select their side and tactics from what they read on the internet. I hope they are stupid enough to believe some of the comments on here, but I will give them more credit than that. | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:06 - Sep 21 with 2914 views | Oldsmoker |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:53 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
A difference between predicting a line up and posting what the actual line up is - and there are plenty of people that know the team every week. It's daft to post it on here though. What benefit do you gain other than 'look at me, I am in the know'.
Any leak obviously plays into the oppositions hands as Southampton won't know if we have a regular starter injured. |
There are so many variations in the team selections posted, that if analysis was being done by the opposition analysts based on the TWTD forum, they would conclude that it is any 11 from 25. |  |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:07 - Sep 21 with 2885 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:01 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
Do they actually know though? I reckon McKenna has probably woken up this morning to the news that somebody hasn't come through training as they hoped they would, or alike. The line up can change many times between 12 noon on a Friday and 2pm on a Saturday. I think people are really over exaggerating if they think Southampton will base their line up and tactics based on something they read on here. I hope they are and would maybe go someway to explaining their terrible form under Martin, but come on. |
Trust me, plenty of people do.
I'm not saying it makes a huge difference but it's undoubtedly only an advantage to the opposition rather than us if they have intel on our line up or injuries. Hence why managers keep plenty of stuff quiet - i.e Hull would not have expected Hirst and Burns to be fit last season. | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:09 - Sep 21 with 2865 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:59 - Sep 21 by IPS_wich |
It’s also a well known fact that Phil got banned from ITFC press conferences 4-5 years ago because fans leaked the line up on this forum.
For all the effort Phil puts into this place I think it’s quite reasonable he doesn’t want this type of thing stirred up again. Sure, it’s a different regime at the helm of the club, but maybe we respect Phil’s right to draw the line sometimes. [Post edited 21 Sep 2024 9:00]
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Fair play but maybe take the ‘Independent’ out of ‘Independent Ipswich Town TWTD’ | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:12 - Sep 21 with 2824 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:06 - Sep 21 by Oldsmoker |
There are so many variations in the team selections posted, that if analysis was being done by the opposition analysts based on the TWTD forum, they would conclude that it is any 11 from 25. |
Southampton are so clueless apparently, that they will take MM,FB & EINTR word on things. I hope they do. This could be of great advantage to us, rather than a hindrance. | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:14 - Sep 21 with 2798 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:06 - Sep 21 by Oldsmoker |
There are so many variations in the team selections posted, that if analysis was being done by the opposition analysts based on the TWTD forum, they would conclude that it is any 11 from 25. |
Like I said, a difference between posting an opinion and someone saying "This is the line up today" or "x is injured". | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:18 - Sep 21 with 2757 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:07 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
Trust me, plenty of people do.
I'm not saying it makes a huge difference but it's undoubtedly only an advantage to the opposition rather than us if they have intel on our line up or injuries. Hence why managers keep plenty of stuff quiet - i.e Hull would not have expected Hirst and Burns to be fit last season. |
I'd rather not. So when McKenna said in his press conference that Hirst and Burns were available for selection, he was breaking his own rules? If people want to believe that a side like Man Utd and others will pick their line up and tactics based on something FB said on here, then they really are very gullible and need to have a word with themselves. Think the world needs to lighten up a bit. | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:21 - Sep 21 with 2709 views | Nomore4 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 19:33 - Sep 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Phil waving his ban hammer around again. It’s like North Korea on here these days. You can’t even leak club secrets and be vile about foreigners anymore. |
Who’s Phil? | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:21 - Sep 21 with 2707 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:14 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
Like I said, a difference between posting an opinion and someone saying "This is the line up today" or "x is injured". |
So if I said on here that one of our players was injured, Southampton are going to believe me? Come on, you don't really believe that do you? | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:23 - Sep 21 with 2681 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:18 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
I'd rather not. So when McKenna said in his press conference that Hirst and Burns were available for selection, he was breaking his own rules? If people want to believe that a side like Man Utd and others will pick their line up and tactics based on something FB said on here, then they really are very gullible and need to have a word with themselves. Think the world needs to lighten up a bit. |
He didn't before Hull last season.
McKenna has also said on a few occasions he's picked a certain player to counteract the particular threat of one opposition player. If he knew the line up of every team, every week he would no doubt make tactical tweaks.
I find it absolutely baffling people think leaking information is not thick. Whether the opposition act on it or not, it's just daft. If you asked McKenna if he wanted line ups leaked on here, he wouldn't say "yeah, no worries, makes no difference" would he? | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:28 - Sep 21 with 2640 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:21 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
So if I said on here that one of our players was injured, Southampton are going to believe me? Come on, you don't really believe that do you? |
Might do if a couple people underneath said 'yeah I've heard that as well' - as happened yesterday by the way. Or if it was a poster with a history of having correct information. Again, doesn't take a lot of work to check any users post history.
Whether they do believe it or not is irrelevant though really. The point is, what gain does ITFC get out of information being leaked? None. So why do it? | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:30 - Sep 21 with 2626 views | Vic |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 08:47 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
I know I'm being thick, but what was said? Do people on here really think they know what side McKenna is going to pick on Saturday? And even if they do, what harm is done? These PL clubs do their homework on all the sides they play. They know who we have and who is most likely to play and where, so who cares if somebody post the side they think McKenna will select? Most of us could have a good stab at what the line up will be. Are we not taking ourselves a little bit to seriously on here? |
And oppo clubs know who of all the posters on here have inside intel? Sounds a bit unlikely to me! Fans will speculate - no one really knows who knows what - unless someone like Joe or a couple of others put something. |  |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:33 - Sep 21 with 2590 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:23 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
He didn't before Hull last season.
McKenna has also said on a few occasions he's picked a certain player to counteract the particular threat of one opposition player. If he knew the line up of every team, every week he would no doubt make tactical tweaks.
I find it absolutely baffling people think leaking information is not thick. Whether the opposition act on it or not, it's just daft. If you asked McKenna if he wanted line ups leaked on here, he wouldn't say "yeah, no worries, makes no difference" would he? |
People post their line ups on here all the time though. What made this poster so special? How do we know that they are actually in the know? If I claim to have inside knowledge of McKenna's mind, is anyone actually going to believe me? I might get lucky a few times with the line up, but I wouldn't expect a professionally run football club to take my word for it. More fool them if they did. Russell Martin will not be sat at his desk now reading TWTD and picking his line up accordingly. It might explain why he is such a cr@p manager, but come on. Like I said early, I think people need to lighten up a little. | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:38 - Sep 21 with 2554 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:33 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
People post their line ups on here all the time though. What made this poster so special? How do we know that they are actually in the know? If I claim to have inside knowledge of McKenna's mind, is anyone actually going to believe me? I might get lucky a few times with the line up, but I wouldn't expect a professionally run football club to take my word for it. More fool them if they did. Russell Martin will not be sat at his desk now reading TWTD and picking his line up accordingly. It might explain why he is such a cr@p manager, but come on. Like I said early, I think people need to lighten up a little. |
As I've said twice already - 'my line up' and 'the line up' are two different things.
Not going to argue any more but check at 1.45pm and see how accurate the information was and if it was beneficial to ITFC that being out in the public domain. | | | |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:45 - Sep 21 with 2482 views | MK1 |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:38 - Sep 21 by tractorboy1978 |
As I've said twice already - 'my line up' and 'the line up' are two different things.
Not going to argue any more but check at 1.45pm and see how accurate the information was and if it was beneficial to ITFC that being out in the public domain. |
I didn't see that line up prediction. Like I have already said before also, anyone can get luck from time to time. Look at all the transfer rumours in the summer, if you dangle your line enough times, you are bound to get a bite from time to time. If our opposition want to pick their like ups and tactics based on what they have read on here, then football and the world really has gone crazy. I fear for the future of mankind based on what I have read in this thread. | |
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| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 10:15 - Sep 21 with 2357 views | Horsham |
| Where did the line up thread go? (n/t) on 09:45 - Sep 21 by MK1 |
I didn't see that line up prediction. Like I have already said before also, anyone can get luck from time to time. Look at all the transfer rumours in the summer, if you dangle your line enough times, you are bound to get a bite from time to time. If our opposition want to pick their like ups and tactics based on what they have read on here, then football and the world really has gone crazy. I fear for the future of mankind based on what I have read in this thread. |
Tbf I think there have been threads on here that are much more worrying for the future of mankind so I’d definitely not open anything to do with Israel, Ukraine or anything remotely political if I was you! |  | | |
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