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Not seen him mentioned much 13:39 - Oct 20 with 3722 viewsGarv

Am I the only one that thought O'Shea was pretty decent at right back during the first half?

Not a long term option obviously but he stood out as someone who was playing okay (most others were struggling, particularly Burns who was playing directly ahead of him).

Until MOTD I hadn't realized what a good move the early Clarke chance was, starting with DO pinging a good quick pass into Hutchinson in the middle of the pitch.

I would love to see H.Clarke have a good go at the RB slot, but I can see O'Shea doing a job if needed.

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Not seen him mentioned much on 13:57 - Oct 20 with 3055 viewsBack2Back

What are your thoughts on the header back into play which led to the Burns error and the first goal?
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Not seen him mentioned much on 13:57 - Oct 20 with 3055 viewsJohn_Warks_Willy

On Clarke, I really would love him to get that RB slot now while Axel is out. He’s one of those players that brings a chaotic energy, and he’s one of us. Those players are rare, occasionally a liability admittedly, but things happen around him.

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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:12 - Oct 20 with 2997 viewsGarv

Not seen him mentioned much on 13:57 - Oct 20 by Back2Back

What are your thoughts on the header back into play which led to the Burns error and the first goal?


I've just watched the goal back to work out what you even meant. Blimey that is a stretch to apportion any blame there, if Burns clears as he should, easily, then we'd have all said it was well defended and forgot about it. His other options were head it out for a cheap corner or leave it and let the man behind him have a free shot. He didn't head it into the six yard box.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:13 - Oct 20 with 2979 viewsredrickstuhaart

I thought he was poor. Woolf was also a massive upgrade on him in the middle.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:14 - Oct 20 with 2968 viewsbsw72

Not seen him mentioned much on 13:57 - Oct 20 by Back2Back

What are your thoughts on the header back into play which led to the Burns error and the first goal?


Not ideal, but he was stretching to reach the ball, I’m not convinced he could have done much else and it does not cover up the fact that Burns could have cleared with his first touch and even had a second chance which he missed completely. Just bad mistakes, O’Shea was still solid.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:30 - Oct 20 with 2869 viewsBack2Back

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:12 - Oct 20 by Garv

I've just watched the goal back to work out what you even meant. Blimey that is a stretch to apportion any blame there, if Burns clears as he should, easily, then we'd have all said it was well defended and forgot about it. His other options were head it out for a cheap corner or leave it and let the man behind him have a free shot. He didn't head it into the six yard box.
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The was no intended apportion of blame. Personally, I would have preferred a flick on to take the ball out of play for a corner. Of course, I have the benefit of hindsight.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:32 - Oct 20 with 2855 viewsHelp

Sorry but he is not a right back. Struggles to understand what he was supposed to do. H Clarke was much better in that position when he came on.

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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:32 - Oct 20 with 2845 viewsBlueOura

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:13 - Oct 20 by redrickstuhaart

I thought he was poor. Woolf was also a massive upgrade on him in the middle.


Wrong on both counts.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:33 - Oct 20 with 2832 viewsredrickstuhaart

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:32 - Oct 20 by BlueOura

Wrong on both counts.


Nope.

Great argument though.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:34 - Oct 20 with 2824 viewsWickets

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:12 - Oct 20 by Garv

I've just watched the goal back to work out what you even meant. Blimey that is a stretch to apportion any blame there, if Burns clears as he should, easily, then we'd have all said it was well defended and forgot about it. His other options were head it out for a cheap corner or leave it and let the man behind him have a free shot. He didn't head it into the six yard box.
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Think your wrong O'shea should have flicked it on for a corner not head it back into the danger area . Burns also should have knocked it straight out . You cannot legislated for such poor defending.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:35 - Oct 20 with 2799 viewsBlueOura

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:33 - Oct 20 by redrickstuhaart

Nope.

Great argument though.


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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:53 - Oct 20 with 2702 viewsIllinoisblue

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:34 - Oct 20 by Wickets

Think your wrong O'shea should have flicked it on for a corner not head it back into the danger area . Burns also should have knocked it straight out . You cannot legislated for such poor defending.


If in doubt kick it out, as they taught us in school

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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:55 - Oct 20 with 2682 viewsvictorysquad

Not seen him mentioned much on 13:57 - Oct 20 by John_Warks_Willy

On Clarke, I really would love him to get that RB slot now while Axel is out. He’s one of those players that brings a chaotic energy, and he’s one of us. Those players are rare, occasionally a liability admittedly, but things happen around him.


Agree he gives us some fight, something we are missing right now

Watch man city out of possession, we should be doing that

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Not seen him mentioned much on 14:58 - Oct 20 with 2666 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Not seen him mentioned much on 13:57 - Oct 20 by Back2Back

What are your thoughts on the header back into play which led to the Burns error and the first goal?


It was the right header to do. He rightly expected Burns to just clear it and relieve the pressure - a much better option than giving a corner to a massive team who are a threat from set pieces.

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Not seen him mentioned much on 15:49 - Oct 20 with 2505 viewsWickets

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:58 - Oct 20 by JammyDodgerrr

It was the right header to do. He rightly expected Burns to just clear it and relieve the pressure - a much better option than giving a corner to a massive team who are a threat from set pieces.


Burns under pressure from 2 men , just knock it out of play .
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Not seen him mentioned much on 15:55 - Oct 20 with 2474 viewsLittleBoyBlue1

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:14 - Oct 20 by bsw72

Not ideal, but he was stretching to reach the ball, I’m not convinced he could have done much else and it does not cover up the fact that Burns could have cleared with his first touch and even had a second chance which he missed completely. Just bad mistakes, O’Shea was still solid.


Looked to me like he tried to flick it on behind and mistimed it horribly.

Woolf much better than O'Shea who should be around only for injury cover in the squad
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Not seen him mentioned much on 16:37 - Oct 20 with 2333 viewsNthQldITFC

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:12 - Oct 20 by Garv

I've just watched the goal back to work out what you even meant. Blimey that is a stretch to apportion any blame there, if Burns clears as he should, easily, then we'd have all said it was well defended and forgot about it. His other options were head it out for a cheap corner or leave it and let the man behind him have a free shot. He didn't head it into the six yard box.
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We try to keep possession and that's great, but heading to a teammate under pressure inside your own six yard box is not a good decision! That, 100%, should have gone out for a corner, whether or not Burns was expecting it.

Not a dig at O'Shea who's still settling in to our way of playing in our renovated defence and who has impressed me at times, but that was indubitably a bad decision. Any manager I ever played for at CB would have had my Jacobs for that! (slightly different level and footballing ethos accepted!)

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Not seen him mentioned much on 17:17 - Oct 20 with 2221 viewsJimmy86

Not seen him mentioned much on 14:13 - Oct 20 by redrickstuhaart

I thought he was poor. Woolf was also a massive upgrade on him in the middle.


Personally think that's a bit of a stretch, to say a massive upgrade... Woolf did alright, but no more than that.. O'shea was clearly brought in as an upgrade at CB.. he hasn't quite hit those heights yet.. that's not to say he won't get there
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Not seen him mentioned much on 18:57 - Oct 20 with 2062 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Not seen him mentioned much on 15:49 - Oct 20 by Wickets

Burns under pressure from 2 men , just knock it out of play .


Burns had enough time to control it on his thigh, he had enough time to hook it away

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Not seen him mentioned much on 19:10 - Oct 20 with 2014 viewsrickw

I thought O'Shea at right back really didn't work, I would have taken him off at half time!

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Not seen him mentioned much on 22:32 - Oct 20 with 1821 viewstextbackup

Sorry, fcking what?!

Of all the mistakes he made, did you not see him cock up to allow them to go 1 on 1 in the second half? Fell over the ball.

I thought he was poor, but luckily for him others were even worse
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Not seen him mentioned much on 22:33 - Oct 20 with 1815 viewscressi

Times are different when Sir Bobby was struggling he brought in a proper centre half in Alan Hunter who helped us stay up none of this settling in Boll***s
I'm afraid a lot of the signings don't look to be good enough last
Season two of our players played in a relegated side far from inspiring.
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Not seen him mentioned much on 22:36 - Oct 20 with 1789 viewsLittleBoyBlue1

Not seen him mentioned much on 22:33 - Oct 20 by cressi

Times are different when Sir Bobby was struggling he brought in a proper centre half in Alan Hunter who helped us stay up none of this settling in Boll***s
I'm afraid a lot of the signings don't look to be good enough last
Season two of our players played in a relegated side far from inspiring.


Spot on
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Not seen him mentioned much on 22:56 - Oct 20 with 1740 viewsFromReuserWithLove

Not seen him mentioned much on 22:33 - Oct 20 by cressi

Times are different when Sir Bobby was struggling he brought in a proper centre half in Alan Hunter who helped us stay up none of this settling in Boll***s
I'm afraid a lot of the signings don't look to be good enough last
Season two of our players played in a relegated side far from inspiring.


A few Prem clubs were after O'Shea and you wonder what they see? The wavy hand thing he does when on the ball?
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Not seen him mentioned much on 23:10 - Oct 20 with 1651 viewsFrimleyBlue

Not seen him mentioned much on 22:56 - Oct 20 by FromReuserWithLove

A few Prem clubs were after O'Shea and you wonder what they see? The wavy hand thing he does when on the ball?


Data


Which In itself can be a problem.

We saw goalkeeper.com take credit for us signing muric because of their data and the fact he saved more shots than he should have done. But I've thought about this.. how many of those shots did he face because the defenders weren't confident with him...

Data is great and all that. But does data beat the good old fashioned scouting?
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