| Tough stance needed on players and agents 10:41 - Aug 7 with 1154 views | Westcountryblue |
I really don't think we can afford to sell Hutchinson, Davis or arguably Broadhead. The first 2 in particular are absolutely fundamental to the way we play and huge attacking outlets for us. Losing them would take us from being a quality team, to a team in transition - potentially needing 2-3 windows to find players capable of making the same impact. Money isn't particularly useful when you have no time to spend it or bed in new players.
The bigger picture at play is the 110m in television money and achieving promotion to the Premiership, in what is a relatively weak and open Championship this year. To be fair, the club has remained resolute so far, rejecting big money deals for Hutchinson, Davis and Broadhead.
However, i do think there comes a time where Hutchinson and his agent are told bluntly that he'll be an Ipswich player for next year and to quite frankly to get on with his job.
To Leed's credit, they did this superbly, refusing to pay Gnoto unless he played and rejecting bids for the likes of Summerville, Sinsterra, Rutter etc.
We've already somewhat controversially let our captain and heart of the dressing room walk out of the club on a free. But going forward we to show backbone, remind players they are under contract and put agents back in their box making it known that deals won't be done this summer.
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:45 - Aug 7 with 1062 views | boysof1981 |
All three won’t be here by the end of the month, especially OH and Leif. Possibly we decide Broadhead can’t go again, although if the rumoured fee is what is it probably better if he did go. Our problem is we can’t get anyone in through the door, but the way out is becoming quite a worry | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:46 - Aug 7 with 1066 views | tractorboy1978 |
I think Broadhead goes because £7.5m simply can't be turned down for a squad player with a year left on their deal. I couldn't agree more re Davis and Omari. And ultimately they are both players that have a fantastic relationship with McKenna and who WILL get on with it even if they are disappointed. | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:47 - Aug 7 with 1043 views | BlueBlood90 |
I can see Hutchinson being problematic if he doesn't get his own way soon. Think we need to accept that he'll be moving on. Just hope something can be resolved sooner rather than later and put the funds to good use.
Broadhead obviously isn't happy either but he seems to be more willing to knuckle down and get on with it until his circumstances change over the next couple of weeks.
I haven't seen any rumours that Leif is unhappy. He even said himself that he probably wasn't ready for the Premier League last season and would've benefitted from an extra year in the Championship. Add to that the Townsend injury and hopefully it's safe to assume that we will reject any bids for him and he will stay here. |  |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:49 - Aug 7 with 1017 views | Westcountryblue |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:46 - Aug 7 by tractorboy1978 |
I think Broadhead goes because £7.5m simply can't be turned down for a squad player with a year left on their deal. I couldn't agree more re Davis and Omari. And ultimately they are both players that have a fantastic relationship with McKenna and who WILL get on with it even if they are disappointed. |
The positive news about Philogene changes things with Broadhead a bit. 14 goals last term in the Championship isn't to be overlooked though.
Which is worth more though, 7-8 goals and having a difference maker on the bench, or 7.5m in the bank and the expense of finding a similar quality replacement ? It's a tough one ! | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:50 - Aug 7 with 1006 views | baxterbasics |
Now I'm not up to speed on current regulation, but is it not illegal - or at least against FA rules - for a player (or his reps) to be contacted by interested clubs until the selling club has agreed to this?
Clearly there are all kinds of backdoor ways around this being employed currently to signal interest and unsettle a player. Leaks to the press about bids or interest. Probably all kinds of back channel comms going on in secret too.
Is there any way to stamp this out? Yes clubs can be tougher with enforcing player contracts, but it would be so much easier if the first time said player knows a club is coming for him is when his own manager sits him down and says "we've had an offer for you that we are prepared to accept, you interested?" Sadly I can't see how that will ever be possible in the modern game, and players will continue to learn of interest via X or newspapers or the secret WhatsApp chat with their agent. Effing agents. |  |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:51 - Aug 7 with 973 views | NthQldITFC |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:45 - Aug 7 by boysof1981 |
All three won’t be here by the end of the month, especially OH and Leif. Possibly we decide Broadhead can’t go again, although if the rumoured fee is what is it probably better if he did go. Our problem is we can’t get anyone in through the door, but the way out is becoming quite a worry |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:53 - Aug 7 with 947 views | Westcountryblue |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:47 - Aug 7 by BlueBlood90 |
I can see Hutchinson being problematic if he doesn't get his own way soon. Think we need to accept that he'll be moving on. Just hope something can be resolved sooner rather than later and put the funds to good use.
Broadhead obviously isn't happy either but he seems to be more willing to knuckle down and get on with it until his circumstances change over the next couple of weeks.
I haven't seen any rumours that Leif is unhappy. He even said himself that he probably wasn't ready for the Premier League last season and would've benefitted from an extra year in the Championship. Add to that the Townsend injury and hopefully it's safe to assume that we will reject any bids for him and he will stay here. |
Omari can only be problematic to a degree.
Football is a small industry, and word/reputation travels fast.
Refusing to train, play and being difficult will raise question marks about his attitude.
I honestly think we need to tell him to knuckle down and get on with his job. | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:02 - Aug 7 with 846 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
You've missed the memo from the club that announced that this is precisely their strategy though. Buy promising players to sell them on.
Of course, this doesn't mean we continually sell all the crown jewels, but some will move on, and often it will be from the pool of players that have done incredibly well. This will be done with the balance of the squad in mind, and knowing we have, or can get, adequate replacements.
With this in mind, Leif is unlikely to go, unless we gat a stupid high bid for him. There isn't good cover for him, and he'd be very hard to replace quickly.
However, for Hutch and Broadhead, we have a gluttony of riches. Both will likely go if the right offer comes in. I'd say 99% likely Broady goes and 70% chance Hutch goes.
We need to trust the process - the club is in good hands. | | | |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:02 - Aug 7 with 842 views | Horsham |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:51 - Aug 7 by NthQldITFC |
#BarrelOfLaughs |
Barrel of perpetual speculative BS too |  | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:04 - Aug 7 with 813 views | bartyg |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:02 - Aug 7 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You've missed the memo from the club that announced that this is precisely their strategy though. Buy promising players to sell them on.
Of course, this doesn't mean we continually sell all the crown jewels, but some will move on, and often it will be from the pool of players that have done incredibly well. This will be done with the balance of the squad in mind, and knowing we have, or can get, adequate replacements.
With this in mind, Leif is unlikely to go, unless we gat a stupid high bid for him. There isn't good cover for him, and he'd be very hard to replace quickly.
However, for Hutch and Broadhead, we have a gluttony of riches. Both will likely go if the right offer comes in. I'd say 99% likely Broady goes and 70% chance Hutch goes.
We need to trust the process - the club is in good hands. |
Agree with this. The plan is to be in the position of Forest, Brighton etc- buy the promising young talent from the EFL/ abroad, develop for a few years and then cash in at the ManU/ Chelsea etc ATM. |  | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:06 - Aug 7 with 757 views | Herbivore |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:49 - Aug 7 by Westcountryblue |
The positive news about Philogene changes things with Broadhead a bit. 14 goals last term in the Championship isn't to be overlooked though.
Which is worth more though, 7-8 goals and having a difference maker on the bench, or 7.5m in the bank and the expense of finding a similar quality replacement ? It's a tough one ! |
We don't need a direct replacement for Broadhead though. We've got Philogene, Clarke, and Szmodics who all play a similar role. Selling him frees up additional funds and squad space to strengthen elsewhere. |  |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:09 - Aug 7 with 723 views | bluefunk |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:49 - Aug 7 by Westcountryblue |
The positive news about Philogene changes things with Broadhead a bit. 14 goals last term in the Championship isn't to be overlooked though.
Which is worth more though, 7-8 goals and having a difference maker on the bench, or 7.5m in the bank and the expense of finding a similar quality replacement ? It's a tough one ! |
Broadhead really isn’t any kind of tough decision- he was gone last season before Nelson changed his mind on the loan and so he’s obviously seen as surplus to requirements once we have a fully fit squad. The only reason he hasn’t gone is JP’s injury and the OH situation. As you say, we may well reach the point where Hutchinson is told to get on with it, but don’t expect Broadhead to be here in September, something would have to have gone badly wrong for that to happen |  | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:11 - Aug 7 with 711 views | usm |
Broadhead will go - its a good deal for us, him and Wrexham.
Hutchinson will go when we get the right price for him - whatever that is.
Davis will stay - he's too valuable, especially now Townsend is injured. |  |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:11 - Aug 7 with 697 views | boysof1981 |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:51 - Aug 7 by NthQldITFC |
#BarrelOfLaughs |
Do you genuinely believe all three will be here then? #bluetintedglasses | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:13 - Aug 7 with 688 views | bluefunk |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:06 - Aug 7 by Herbivore |
We don't need a direct replacement for Broadhead though. We've got Philogene, Clarke, and Szmodics who all play a similar role. Selling him frees up additional funds and squad space to strengthen elsewhere. |
And if we get Akpom, he can also play there | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:42 - Aug 7 with 511 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:02 - Aug 7 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You've missed the memo from the club that announced that this is precisely their strategy though. Buy promising players to sell them on.
Of course, this doesn't mean we continually sell all the crown jewels, but some will move on, and often it will be from the pool of players that have done incredibly well. This will be done with the balance of the squad in mind, and knowing we have, or can get, adequate replacements.
With this in mind, Leif is unlikely to go, unless we gat a stupid high bid for him. There isn't good cover for him, and he'd be very hard to replace quickly.
However, for Hutch and Broadhead, we have a gluttony of riches. Both will likely go if the right offer comes in. I'd say 99% likely Broady goes and 70% chance Hutch goes.
We need to trust the process - the club is in good hands. |
100% this
It's also the only sustainable route to success for the club should we revert ( hopefully not!) to having no parachute payments in future.
I don't think we'd even think about selling Leif with the current injury situation either - I imagine something north of £30m needed before we even start to entertain it.
Broad/Hutch are different circumstances as you say. | | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:43 - Aug 7 with 489 views | NthQldITFC |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 11:11 - Aug 7 by boysof1981 |
Do you genuinely believe all three will be here then? #bluetintedglasses |
You've expressed certainty that Davis is leaving. That's bollox. I don't know what your motives are, and I don't care. You're yet another account posting continuous negative drivel for whatever reason (hmmm, !?) and like many others I'm sick of it, so I'm using the Div button now, which robs you of your right to reply directly (sorry) unless you use a different account.
All the best. | |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 12:21 - Aug 7 with 330 views | billlm |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:45 - Aug 7 by boysof1981 |
All three won’t be here by the end of the month, especially OH and Leif. Possibly we decide Broadhead can’t go again, although if the rumoured fee is what is it probably better if he did go. Our problem is we can’t get anyone in through the door, but the way out is becoming quite a worry |
Broadhead won't be as he didn't want to be here last season,
Omari will be gone to balance the books and make a trading profit,
Leif isn't going anywhere |  | | |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 12:32 - Aug 7 with 273 views | pointofblue |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:47 - Aug 7 by BlueBlood90 |
I can see Hutchinson being problematic if he doesn't get his own way soon. Think we need to accept that he'll be moving on. Just hope something can be resolved sooner rather than later and put the funds to good use.
Broadhead obviously isn't happy either but he seems to be more willing to knuckle down and get on with it until his circumstances change over the next couple of weeks.
I haven't seen any rumours that Leif is unhappy. He even said himself that he probably wasn't ready for the Premier League last season and would've benefitted from an extra year in the Championship. Add to that the Townsend injury and hopefully it's safe to assume that we will reject any bids for him and he will stay here. |
The difference is we have seemingly told Broadhead we're happy to let him go at the fee offered by Wrexham - we just need someone in first. With Hutchinson, we are (rightly) playing hardball. It's up to Omari whether he wants to act like an adult or a child.
My bigger concern is incomings rather than outgoings. Even signings which seem to be sorted are taking forever to finalise. Injuries are not helping either. | |
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| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 12:33 - Aug 7 with 264 views | Garv |
| Tough stance needed on players and agents on 10:53 - Aug 7 by Westcountryblue |
Omari can only be problematic to a degree.
Football is a small industry, and word/reputation travels fast.
Refusing to train, play and being difficult will raise question marks about his attitude.
I honestly think we need to tell him to knuckle down and get on with his job. |
Szmodics did that for Blackburn. No one has questioned his attitude in a Town shirt.
I doubt Brentford or Forest will care if it means he signs for them. |  |
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