| Henry Winter amongst others 08:19 - Sep 26 with 2382 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Lost his sh1t over the replay.
Only fair way to play the last 11 mins - ignoring the fact that it’s never been done before
Inconsistency around the goal chalked off but Greaves red standing - read the rule book.
Sets a precedent for clubs being 0-1 down and then the lights going out to get a replay, presented with no acknowledgement that works the other way round too if a side is 1-0 up but under pressure, tiring and looking like they might not hold out
Moans about fans being out of pocket for the previous game in tickets and fuel, but presented with absolutely zero irony on expecting fans to turn up for 10-20 minutes of football. |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:30 - Sep 26 with 2260 views | bsw72 |
Journalist being "controversial" to drive clicks . . . I find that hard to believe. |  | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:35 - Sep 26 with 2228 views | witchdoctor |
it’s all nonsense..I mean if you are going by that criteria and you want to replicate the situation then the same…in this case 21…players should take to the field which due to injuries or suspension wouldn’t be possible…. [Post edited 26 Sep 15:00]
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:39 - Sep 26 with 2190 views | NedPlimpton |
I am surprised at some journalists reaction to this, but I suppose the fact it's only one or two coming out and talking about it suggests that most other journalists think this is the most sensible outcome
I guess nowadays journalism needs clicks and engagement to survive and the best way to do that is to clearly pick a side and watch the other get angry about it
Probably best to be ignored |  | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:41 - Sep 26 with 2161 views | Keno |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:39 - Sep 26 by NedPlimpton |
I am surprised at some journalists reaction to this, but I suppose the fact it's only one or two coming out and talking about it suggests that most other journalists think this is the most sensible outcome
I guess nowadays journalism needs clicks and engagement to survive and the best way to do that is to clearly pick a side and watch the other get angry about it
Probably best to be ignored |
I'm waiting for the bloke that writes for the guardian to come out and say something now |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:45 - Sep 26 with 2136 views | tractorboy1978 |
I'm surprised to see so many saying this sets a precedent. The precedents had already been set which was why this game being replayed was a complete slam dunk decision. If Orient vs Lincoln was fully replayed after 84 mins with Orient 1-0 up then how could they come to a different decision on this one? |  | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:46 - Sep 26 with 2101 views | itfcjoe |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:45 - Sep 26 by tractorboy1978 |
I'm surprised to see so many saying this sets a precedent. The precedents had already been set which was why this game being replayed was a complete slam dunk decision. If Orient vs Lincoln was fully replayed after 84 mins with Orient 1-0 up then how could they come to a different decision on this one? |
Yep, this just continues the existing precedent |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:50 - Sep 26 with 2055 views | ringwoodblue |
If they want to replicate the situation exactly at the point of abandonment, then they will have to rearrange the fixture when it’s raining heavily. It’s all ridiculous and totally unnecessary if Blackburn had a decent drainage system under their pitch. |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:52 - Sep 26 with 2029 views | Bobbychase |
How could we fairly replay the original game with just the last 10 minutes? To make it "fair" you would have to replicate everything - all the players involved would have to somehow get to the same level of exhaustion they would normally be 80 minutes into a match. Oh except the subs that had been made, they would need to be slightly less exhausted.
Oh by the way, it would need to be the exact same teams and subs.
And you'd have to replicate the playing conditions as well. Somehow. Otherwise it's not a continuation of the same match, it's a completely different set of circumstances.
Nixon I can understand losing his mind as he often engages in clickbait but Henry Winter is disappointing. Always thought he was a sensible journalist. |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 09:20 - Sep 26 with 1771 views | Chris_ITFC |
He’s a journo, contrary in need of content.
He’d have probably written the exact opposite if the decision was different. |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 10:07 - Sep 26 with 1538 views | Basuco |
The EFL judgement is not about being fair it is about following the rules of the game, which the EFL board have. You would have expected a former chief football writer for the Times and a football journalist of many years, to know the rules of football, or at least check on them before writing about an incident. |  | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 10:14 - Sep 26 with 1477 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I can't for the life of me understand why more people are not stating the simple fact that the reason this was called off is entirely down to the standard of their facilities. Blackburn Rovers are entirely to blame.
The EFL don't need to clarify the rules, teams in the Championship with all the money they now have, should have the required facilities to hold 90 minute football matches regardless of a weather event.
I've see journalists and fans say 'well we/they play next to a river'. Well then adjust your facilities accordingly to circumvent the problem. | | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 10:15 - Sep 26 with 1447 views | mellowblue |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:30 - Sep 26 by bsw72 |
Journalist being "controversial" to drive clicks . . . I find that hard to believe. |
Henry is usually above that, old school journo. | | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 10:21 - Sep 26 with 1400 views | Basuco |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:45 - Sep 26 by tractorboy1978 |
I'm surprised to see so many saying this sets a precedent. The precedents had already been set which was why this game being replayed was a complete slam dunk decision. If Orient vs Lincoln was fully replayed after 84 mins with Orient 1-0 up then how could they come to a different decision on this one? |
The precedent was set by FA rule 20 (E) (iii) and previous similar cases also following this FA rule. | | | |
| Precisely this on 10:38 - Sep 26 with 1317 views | Dyland |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:39 - Sep 26 by NedPlimpton |
I am surprised at some journalists reaction to this, but I suppose the fact it's only one or two coming out and talking about it suggests that most other journalists think this is the most sensible outcome
I guess nowadays journalism needs clicks and engagement to survive and the best way to do that is to clearly pick a side and watch the other get angry about it
Probably best to be ignored |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 12:52 - Sep 26 with 935 views | stonojnr |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 08:30 - Sep 26 by bsw72 |
Journalist being "controversial" to drive clicks . . . I find that hard to believe. |
Henry Winter doesn't do controversial takes for clicks, he's old school journalist, one who writes with facts not opinions presented as facts.
So I was surprised he'd taken that view, though I note he's not responded to any of the valid points raised against his idea of fairness. | | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 13:03 - Sep 26 with 865 views | MJallday |
ewood park is next to a brook. basically a puddle if you look on google maps
that "next to a river" argument does not hold any water (pun intended) |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 13:03 - Sep 26 with 864 views | Pique |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 10:14 - Sep 26 by Bellevue_Blue |
I can't for the life of me understand why more people are not stating the simple fact that the reason this was called off is entirely down to the standard of their facilities. Blackburn Rovers are entirely to blame.
The EFL don't need to clarify the rules, teams in the Championship with all the money they now have, should have the required facilities to hold 90 minute football matches regardless of a weather event.
I've see journalists and fans say 'well we/they play next to a river'. Well then adjust your facilities accordingly to circumvent the problem. |
Absolutely. Blackburn have got off lightly in terms of criticism of their substandard facilities, which at Championship level are completely unacceptable. Worth noting that Nottingham Forest and Fulham both have stadiums next to rivers (to name two off the top of my head) and don't have similar issues. It's actually pretty disgraceful.
And what about when this happens again? Given that they've had a game called off and it's only September, it's surely going to be an issue at some other point in the future, maybe even again this season. Are Blackburn seriously going to argue that they should have the points from another uncompleted match, and another? Be interesting to see what argument they make if they're losing!
Ridiculous. If it happens again this season there's an argument for kicking them out of the league until they can provide proper facilities for a game of professional football. |  | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 13:24 - Sep 26 with 760 views | NedPlimpton |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 13:03 - Sep 26 by Pique |
Absolutely. Blackburn have got off lightly in terms of criticism of their substandard facilities, which at Championship level are completely unacceptable. Worth noting that Nottingham Forest and Fulham both have stadiums next to rivers (to name two off the top of my head) and don't have similar issues. It's actually pretty disgraceful.
And what about when this happens again? Given that they've had a game called off and it's only September, it's surely going to be an issue at some other point in the future, maybe even again this season. Are Blackburn seriously going to argue that they should have the points from another uncompleted match, and another? Be interesting to see what argument they make if they're losing!
Ridiculous. If it happens again this season there's an argument for kicking them out of the league until they can provide proper facilities for a game of professional football. |
I'm no hydrologist but the Thames and the Trent probably have a fair bit more flood control than a brook that runs through a small part of Blackburn! | | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 13:26 - Sep 26 with 741 views | vapour_trail |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 12:52 - Sep 26 by stonojnr |
Henry Winter doesn't do controversial takes for clicks, he's old school journalist, one who writes with facts not opinions presented as facts.
So I was surprised he'd taken that view, though I note he's not responded to any of the valid points raised against his idea of fairness. |
I’ve always found Winter to be a pompous bellend.
So fond of his own voice. |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 14:20 - Sep 26 with 574 views | Pique |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 13:24 - Sep 26 by NedPlimpton |
I'm no hydrologist but the Thames and the Trent probably have a fair bit more flood control than a brook that runs through a small part of Blackburn! |
Well, if it's only a tiny brook rather than a river it shouldn't really be significant enough to disrupt a Championship football match! | | | |
| Henry Winter amongst others on 14:35 - Sep 26 with 498 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Incredible when you notice Blackburn lost to Birmingham earlier in the season, after being 1-0 up in the 89th - they lost 2-1. I know we were down a man, but something has literally happened in one of their games, *this season*. This peddling by journalists is ridiculous. |  |
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| Henry Winter amongst others on 14:42 - Sep 26 with 452 views | Ryorry |
Was he actually at the game?
“Wettest pitch I've ever seen at this time of year before kick-off. Got worse as it went on. First half the ball was moving, footing was difficult but ball was stopping with long passes. At half-time subs said it was unplayable.”
Said KM in the presser just now. |  |
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