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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish 17:19 - May 18 with 3305 viewsC_Jam_Blue

below us?

I'm thinking Coventry, Southampton/Hull and Brentford

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:22 - May 18 with 2404 viewscressi

Brentford why after this season
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:26 - May 18 with 2374 viewsHerbivore

The other two promoted sides, then I'm going to predict a dose of second season syndrome for Sunderland. They've outperformed their underlying stats this season (yes, yes, I know) by quite a margin and are bottom 3 in many xPts tables. They've done incredibly well but can see them finding it tricky to maintain. Also think it's possible Palace have a slump post-Glasner, and Forest look a bit of a mess off the pitch. I've given up predicting that Brentford will struggle.

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Brentford? Have you been in the pub?

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:29 - May 18 with 2353 viewsTheBoyBlue

I would've thought Forest are more likely than Brentford. Forest's owner has taken them from almost getting them into the Champions League to turning them into a basket case of a club in a few months. He is certainly capable of taking that further, although also capable of getting it right by complete chance as he did with Cooper and Nuno.

Brentford meanwhile are an extremely well-rung club, seems to get almost every decision right. I see no reason for them being in trouble.

I suppose there's the possibility of second-season syndrome for Sunderland and maybe Leeds, but otherwise it's hard to pick out any other clubs who we can expect to be better than.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:32 - May 18 with 2332 viewsmr_bean

Wolves have cubs, but they're already relegated.
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:35 - May 18 with 2299 viewsIllinoisblue

So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:26 - May 18 by Herbivore

The other two promoted sides, then I'm going to predict a dose of second season syndrome for Sunderland. They've outperformed their underlying stats this season (yes, yes, I know) by quite a margin and are bottom 3 in many xPts tables. They've done incredibly well but can see them finding it tricky to maintain. Also think it's possible Palace have a slump post-Glasner, and Forest look a bit of a mess off the pitch. I've given up predicting that Brentford will struggle.


Ideally Sunderland will sneak into Europe.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:35 - May 18 by Illinoisblue

Ideally Sunderland will sneak into Europe.


Europe in the season after promotion, what could possibly go wrong?

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:39 - May 18 with 2262 viewsradiogaga

I think the time has come to give Brentford the same level of respect that Brighton and Bournemouth receive. I think their ability to weather the mass exodus of the group and manager that took them to the best period in their history, and in fact outperform it this season, is testament to what a proactive durable and brilliantly run club they are.

Fulham if they lose Marco Silva could be ones to watch, but much like this season it will need 40 points or thereabouts to be considered in with a chance of staying up. The league is as strong as it’s ever been now, in the sense of how capable anyone is of beating anyone.
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:41 - May 18 with 2252 viewsPrideOfTheEast

Hard to find that third club isn’t it. Presumably one of Leeds, Sunderland, Forest, Palace and Fulham but all of those are streets ahead of us at the moment which underlines the need for a total overhaul in players.
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:45 - May 18 with 2218 viewsvapour_trail

So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:35 - May 18 by Illinoisblue

Ideally Sunderland will sneak into Europe.


Exactly right. Also need Palace to win the conference league and get another year of Europe with a new manager and no Adam Wharton.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:46 - May 18 with 2203 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Brentford just appointed Keith Andrews, a set piece coach as their manager and might get Europe.

The infrastructure at that club is far too good to go down.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:45 - May 18 by vapour_trail

Exactly right. Also need Palace to win the conference league and get another year of Europe with a new manager and no Adam Wharton.


Could there be a similar situation with a so called 'big' club, as opposed to those already mentioned, getting sucked into a relegation fight as Spurs have this season - someone like Newcastle or Everton or have they steadied enough to be unlikely?

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:53 - May 18 with 2142 viewsbackwaywhen

Brentford ……in your dreams , more likely Forest / Palace .
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:57 - May 18 with 2118 viewsGarv

So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:49 - May 18 by hoppy

Could there be a similar situation with a so called 'big' club, as opposed to those already mentioned, getting sucked into a relegation fight as Spurs have this season - someone like Newcastle or Everton or have they steadied enough to be unlikely?


I wish Everton would go down. Such a dull team and a dull manager.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:58 - May 18 with 2115 viewshoppy

So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:57 - May 18 by Garv

I wish Everton would go down. Such a dull team and a dull manager.


Would also be rather amusing seeing that stadium hosting Championship games, in the same way as if Spurs were to go down.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 18:00 - May 18 with 2106 viewspatrickswell

Tottenham may still be vulnerable, if they stay up. There are deep problems at that club.
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:27 - May 18 by Cheltenham_Blue

Brentford? Have you been in the pub?


Just have an inkling. They have only beaten one team (West Ham) since March after a fantastic first half of the season. Loads of draws. Very reliant on Thiago. Scored 22 next best is 7. If they lose him (likely) and don't replace his goals, I feel they might struggle. Having said that they do have a knack of unearthing gems!
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:39 - May 18 by radiogaga

I think the time has come to give Brentford the same level of respect that Brighton and Bournemouth receive. I think their ability to weather the mass exodus of the group and manager that took them to the best period in their history, and in fact outperform it this season, is testament to what a proactive durable and brilliantly run club they are.

Fulham if they lose Marco Silva could be ones to watch, but much like this season it will need 40 points or thereabouts to be considered in with a chance of staying up. The league is as strong as it’s ever been now, in the sense of how capable anyone is of beating anyone.
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Agree about Fulham but as I mentioned above Brentford have been hugely reliant on Thiago goals and have won very few games since Feb.
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:49 - May 18 by hoppy

Could there be a similar situation with a so called 'big' club, as opposed to those already mentioned, getting sucked into a relegation fight as Spurs have this season - someone like Newcastle or Everton or have they steadied enough to be unlikely?


Palace might be one to watch. New manager and European football. May do a Forest but without the late season upturn in form.
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We could finally get the luck of second season syndrome and have Leeds/Sunderland both come down with one of the other promoted sides.

Would make a nice change for Ipswich to get that sort of luck.

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Just have an inkling. They have only beaten one team (West Ham) since March after a fantastic first half of the season. Loads of draws. Very reliant on Thiago. Scored 22 next best is 7. If they lose him (likely) and don't replace his goals, I feel they might struggle. Having said that they do have a knack of unearthing gems!


People said the same when they lost Toney, then the same again when they lost Mbuemo and Wissa (and their head coach at the same time). They've somehow built ridiculous foundations there.

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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 18:25 - May 18 with 1952 viewsMattinLondon

Coventry
Palace - think they’ll struggle next season.
Hull - if they win the playoffs.
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Coventry. Southampton/Middlesbrough/Hull & I think Crystal Palace maybe or Fulham. Think all the others will be too strong.

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Leeds or Sunderland. One of those may struggle with second season syndrome …
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So if we are to stay up next season, which three cubs are most likely to finish on 17:49 - May 18 by hoppy

Could there be a similar situation with a so called 'big' club, as opposed to those already mentioned, getting sucked into a relegation fight as Spurs have this season - someone like Newcastle or Everton or have they steadied enough to be unlikely?


They both have good managers, so I find it unlikely. Silva reported as maybe leaving Fulham and the Palace manager has already announced that he will go, so think they are more likely. It's going to be tough and our recruitment has to be far better than last time. We need experience, not potential.

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