| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses 22:55 - Apr 13 with 2079 views | sparks |
Both immigrants.
Now- lets get Brexit done and stop these leeches getting in. |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 23:41 - Apr 13 with 1600 views | Lord_Lucan |
As a remainer myself that sort of comment is why I find fellow remainers a bit stooopid |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:22 - Apr 14 with 1499 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
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A tiny minority of actual racist nuts aside, any Brexiteer pointing to immigration is against free movement of labour, not restricting skilled labour that we actually need such as those supporting the NHS
It’s posts like this that make any kind of reasoned debate on the subject impossible |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:36 - Apr 14 with 1459 views | m14_blue |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:22 - Apr 14 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Embarrassing post
A tiny minority of actual racist nuts aside, any Brexiteer pointing to immigration is against free movement of labour, not restricting skilled labour that we actually need such as those supporting the NHS
It’s posts like this that make any kind of reasoned debate on the subject impossible |
Whilst I’m sure you’re right, there’s also no denying that we as a country have made people like those nurses feel incredibly unwelcome. There’s a reason they are leaving in droves and arriving in far fewer numbers.
The rhetoric around the referendum didn’t contain that nuance and there was some utterly shameful posturing around immigration.
Saying we don’t want people like you but we don’t mind you personally because you have skills we need is hardly a welcoming message. |  | | |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:52 - Apr 14 with 1404 views | Herbivore |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:36 - Apr 14 by m14_blue |
Whilst I’m sure you’re right, there’s also no denying that we as a country have made people like those nurses feel incredibly unwelcome. There’s a reason they are leaving in droves and arriving in far fewer numbers.
The rhetoric around the referendum didn’t contain that nuance and there was some utterly shameful posturing around immigration.
Saying we don’t want people like you but we don’t mind you personally because you have skills we need is hardly a welcoming message. |
Agreed. Sparks' post is rather simplistic and a little dim witted, but it's incredibly naive to suggest that we've always been clear that nurses are welcome here despite Brexit. The rhetoric of the leave campaign certainly didn't create that impression and this government recently set a wage threshold to define 'skilled' workers that is above the average wage of a nurse. Again, that's not really sending out a 'you're still welcome here' kind of vibe. |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:59 - Apr 14 with 1384 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Did you get that bottle of wine then Sparks? |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:28 - Apr 14 with 1311 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:36 - Apr 14 by m14_blue |
Whilst I’m sure you’re right, there’s also no denying that we as a country have made people like those nurses feel incredibly unwelcome. There’s a reason they are leaving in droves and arriving in far fewer numbers.
The rhetoric around the referendum didn’t contain that nuance and there was some utterly shameful posturing around immigration.
Saying we don’t want people like you but we don’t mind you personally because you have skills we need is hardly a welcoming message. |
I agree to a point - although I think that in part goes back to being unable to have a nuanced debate which means only the most extreme views get heard
I don’t agree with the last paragraph at all though - to me that kind of view is simply common sense | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:29 - Apr 14 with 1316 views | Cotton_eyed_joe |
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Nothing wrong with skilled labour being here its the non skilled eastern Europeans that are the issue [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 10:41]
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:31 - Apr 14 with 1302 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:29 - Apr 14 by Cotton_eyed_joe |
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Nothing wrong with skilled labour being here its the non skilled eastern Europeans that are the issue [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 10:41]
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Unfortunately this is also the sort of post which is incredibly unhelpful, even if what I think you’re getting at is in line with my post above | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:35 - Apr 14 with 1291 views | DanTheMan |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:31 - Apr 14 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Unfortunately this is also the sort of post which is incredibly unhelpful, even if what I think you’re getting at is in line with my post above |
So you're saying that doesn't add to the reasoned debate? |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:38 - Apr 14 with 1276 views | Herbivore |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:29 - Apr 14 by Cotton_eyed_joe |
ignore that uppy meant to a down vote
Nothing wrong with skilled labour being here its the non skilled eastern Europeans that are the issue [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 10:41]
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Jesus wept. | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:38 - Apr 14 with 1280 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:29 - Apr 14 by Cotton_eyed_joe |
ignore that uppy meant to a down vote
Nothing wrong with skilled labour being here its the non skilled eastern Europeans that are the issue [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 10:41]
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The Eastern Europeans are brilliant workers and are amongst those that are exactly the type of people we should be encouraging.
Your post is as stoopid as the OP | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:39 - Apr 14 with 1274 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:35 - Apr 14 by DanTheMan |
So you're saying that doesn't add to the reasoned debate? |
Not really, no | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:43 - Apr 14 with 1254 views | giant_stow |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:52 - Apr 14 by Herbivore |
Agreed. Sparks' post is rather simplistic and a little dim witted, but it's incredibly naive to suggest that we've always been clear that nurses are welcome here despite Brexit. The rhetoric of the leave campaign certainly didn't create that impression and this government recently set a wage threshold to define 'skilled' workers that is above the average wage of a nurse. Again, that's not really sending out a 'you're still welcome here' kind of vibe. |
'Sparks' post is rather simplistic and a little dim witted'
Bully's not going to like that! |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:49 - Apr 14 with 1227 views | britbiker |
Waits for the standard 'hilarious' response of a sentance deliberately spelt by a supposedly racist idiot who voted for brexit. [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 8:50]
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:50 - Apr 14 with 1213 views | Herbivore |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:31 - Apr 14 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Unfortunately this is also the sort of post which is incredibly unhelpful, even if what I think you’re getting at is in line with my post above |
Weird that you're more charitable to this xenophobic nonsense than to the OP. Each to their own I guess. | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:53 - Apr 14 with 1195 views | artsbossbeard |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:49 - Apr 14 by britbiker |
Waits for the standard 'hilarious' response of a sentance deliberately spelt by a supposedly racist idiot who voted for brexit. [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 8:50]
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Even after you've edited it, I'm still lost. |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:10 - Apr 14 with 1145 views | m14_blue |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:31 - Apr 14 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Unfortunately this is also the sort of post which is incredibly unhelpful, even if what I think you’re getting at is in line with my post above |
This is the sort of view that you’re aligning with.
And you don’t see how that could make EU migrants feel unwelcome? | | | |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:11 - Apr 14 with 1140 views | sparks |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:43 - Apr 14 by giant_stow |
'Sparks' post is rather simplistic and a little dim witted'
Bully's not going to like that! |
Sparks hasnt read Herbivore's vitriolic abuse and OCDish downvoting for many years. I'd prefer if you didn't re-type it in a post I can read! | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:19 - Apr 14 with 1122 views | Herbivore |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:11 - Apr 14 by sparks |
Sparks hasnt read Herbivore's vitriolic abuse and OCDish downvoting for many years. I'd prefer if you didn't re-type it in a post I can read! |
That's not true, you took me off ignore a while ago but put me back on again when I showed you up for the thousandth time. You don't like being challenged and have a poor grasp of what constitutes vitriol. | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:19 - Apr 14 with 1119 views | m14_blue |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:11 - Apr 14 by sparks |
Sparks hasnt read Herbivore's vitriolic abuse and OCDish downvoting for many years. I'd prefer if you didn't re-type it in a post I can read! |
He was pretty much agreeing with you tbf. | | | |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:29 - Apr 14 with 1081 views | giant_stow |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:11 - Apr 14 by sparks |
Sparks hasnt read Herbivore's vitriolic abuse and OCDish downvoting for many years. I'd prefer if you didn't re-type it in a post I can read! |
Oops! And noted. | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:37 - Apr 14 with 1052 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 09:10 - Apr 14 by m14_blue |
This is the sort of view that you’re aligning with.
And you don’t see how that could make EU migrants feel unwelcome? |
No, I agree it isn’t helpful and I certainly don’t align with any view that Eastern European’s aren’t welcome
What I perhaps rather charitably thought the poster may have been getting at was that there have been subsets of those communities that have emigrated to areas of the UK such as Ipswich and caused a number of problems, which in my view makes it easy to understand why your average Ipswich resident may see that type of immigration as being an issue
Having re-read those posts though I was probably being too generous and you and Herbivore were right to comment on it [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 9:37]
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 10:03 - Apr 14 with 1010 views | BlueBadger |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:29 - Apr 14 by Cotton_eyed_joe |
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Nothing wrong with skilled labour being here its the non skilled eastern Europeans that are the issue [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 10:41]
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Recruitment of skilled labour of the sort Boris has been praising has been essentially zero since January 2017. |  |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 10:04 - Apr 14 with 1005 views | BlueBadger |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 08:38 - Apr 14 by Lord_Lucan |
The Eastern Europeans are brilliant workers and are amongst those that are exactly the type of people we should be encouraging.
Your post is as stoopid as the OP |
Sadly, this is exactly the kind of recruitment that's almost completely dried up since we decided that we preferred blue passports to economic stability, workers rights and staffed hospitals. | |
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| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 10:05 - Apr 14 with 998 views | BlueBadger |
| Lovely to see Boris praising the two nurses on 07:22 - Apr 14 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Embarrassing post
A tiny minority of actual racist nuts aside, any Brexiteer pointing to immigration is against free movement of labour, not restricting skilled labour that we actually need such as those supporting the NHS
It’s posts like this that make any kind of reasoned debate on the subject impossible |
Trouble is, it's the skilled labour that's dried up in the vote of 2016. Recruitment of nurses(and others) from the EU is basically zero and has been since January 2017.
https://www.grunberg.co.uk/european-workers-appear-disinterested-uk-jobs-accordi [Post edited 14 Apr 2020 10:14]
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