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London should come out of lockdown 14:41 - Nov 9 with 2365 viewsgiant_stow

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-lockdown-london-coronavir

Weird how London's per 100,000 number is so much lower than other cities. Anyone read anything about why that might be?

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:41 - Nov 9 with 1870 viewshype313

Due to the fact that it got hit hard at the start?

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:47 - Nov 9 with 1828 viewsStokieBlue

The number of cases still isn't "low" though. Many other areas of the UK have had lower than that and were forced into lockdown.

Wouldn't bringing London out of lockdown early prove what the people up north were saying that London is treated differently?

I am not much enjoying the lockdown but if the cases and R are falling now then they will continue to fall the longer the lockdown is on. Coming out too early would seem to waste the effort of lockdown in the first place.

SB
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London should come out of lockdown on 14:48 - Nov 9 with 1818 viewsMercian

London should come out of lockdown on 14:41 - Nov 9 by hype313

Due to the fact that it got hit hard at the start?


There was a story June/July time that said up to 1.5 million people in London had been infected. That's about 1/6.
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London should come out of lockdown on 14:48 - Nov 9 with 1820 viewsbluefunk

London is a ghost town compared to pre lockdown v1. The daytime population of London gets swollen by millions in “normal” circumstances, via commuters and tourists and the former also move around constantly which is not happening now, so it’s not that much of a surprise that infections are down. What is a surprise (well it is to me) is that the virus is also not affecting the commuter belt as badly as it is Northern/Midlands cities
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London should come out of lockdown on 14:48 - Nov 9 with 1815 viewsgiant_stow

London should come out of lockdown on 14:41 - Nov 9 by hype313

Due to the fact that it got hit hard at the start?


Could be - spose it depends on all that how long the antibodies last malarchy

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:50 - Nov 9 with 1805 viewsgiant_stow

London should come out of lockdown on 14:47 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue

The number of cases still isn't "low" though. Many other areas of the UK have had lower than that and were forced into lockdown.

Wouldn't bringing London out of lockdown early prove what the people up north were saying that London is treated differently?

I am not much enjoying the lockdown but if the cases and R are falling now then they will continue to fall the longer the lockdown is on. Coming out too early would seem to waste the effort of lockdown in the first place.

SB


Yes, it might piss the northerners off, but the numbers are very different, so could be justifable. On the whole, I think I agree with you about keeping lockdown going, but interesting stuff all the same

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:51 - Nov 9 with 1805 viewsStokieBlue

London should come out of lockdown on 14:48 - Nov 9 by bluefunk

London is a ghost town compared to pre lockdown v1. The daytime population of London gets swollen by millions in “normal” circumstances, via commuters and tourists and the former also move around constantly which is not happening now, so it’s not that much of a surprise that infections are down. What is a surprise (well it is to me) is that the virus is also not affecting the commuter belt as badly as it is Northern/Midlands cities


Whilst you are right the population is down when people are WFH I actually think there are a lot more people about this "lockdown" when compared to March.

With the schools open and every shop deeming itself "essential" people are still out and about getting the dog cleaned and buying Japanese knifes.

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:51 - Nov 9 with 1800 viewsgiant_stow

London should come out of lockdown on 14:48 - Nov 9 by bluefunk

London is a ghost town compared to pre lockdown v1. The daytime population of London gets swollen by millions in “normal” circumstances, via commuters and tourists and the former also move around constantly which is not happening now, so it’s not that much of a surprise that infections are down. What is a surprise (well it is to me) is that the virus is also not affecting the commuter belt as badly as it is Northern/Midlands cities


I haven't been into the centre of town for months. Infact I even been into the centre of walthamstow for at least 6 weeks.

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:53 - Nov 9 with 1787 viewsbluefunk

London should come out of lockdown on 14:51 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue

Whilst you are right the population is down when people are WFH I actually think there are a lot more people about this "lockdown" when compared to March.

With the schools open and every shop deeming itself "essential" people are still out and about getting the dog cleaned and buying Japanese knifes.

SB


There are definitely more people about, and yet the infection rate has not spiralled out of control in London, which is providing ammunition for those who believe in a mor proportionate response
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London should come out of lockdown on 14:54 - Nov 9 with 1787 viewsStokieBlue

London should come out of lockdown on 14:51 - Nov 9 by giant_stow

I haven't been into the centre of town for months. Infact I even been into the centre of walthamstow for at least 6 weeks.


You should have at least been getting takeaway beers from Pillars and Wildcard to ensure they are open post-Covid!

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:55 - Nov 9 with 1771 viewsbluefunk

London should come out of lockdown on 14:51 - Nov 9 by giant_stow

I haven't been into the centre of town for months. Infact I even been into the centre of walthamstow for at least 6 weeks.


It’ll be you that’s keeping the infection rate down then....
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London should come out of lockdown on 14:57 - Nov 9 with 1765 viewsgiant_stow

London should come out of lockdown on 14:54 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue

You should have at least been getting takeaway beers from Pillars and Wildcard to ensure they are open post-Covid!

SB


I'm afraid I'm too cheap to be buyeing their take away booze - the cheapest they do is 2l for £15. Noticed Lacons in Yarmouth have just gone live with their offerring though which seems better value, so might try that instead (5l mini keg for £20).

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London should come out of lockdown on 14:58 - Nov 9 with 1752 viewsElderGrizzly

London should come out of lockdown on 14:48 - Nov 9 by Mercian

There was a story June/July time that said up to 1.5 million people in London had been infected. That's about 1/6.


Other studies have said around 6% have caught it.

We can't rely on the fact someone has had it to be played into any 'release' of lockdown. The number is way too low and there are hundreds of cases reported around the world of re-infection
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London should come out of lockdown on 15:01 - Nov 9 with 1743 viewsStokieBlue

London should come out of lockdown on 14:57 - Nov 9 by giant_stow

I'm afraid I'm too cheap to be buyeing their take away booze - the cheapest they do is 2l for £15. Noticed Lacons in Yarmouth have just gone live with their offerring though which seems better value, so might try that instead (5l mini keg for £20).


I have an Adnams order coming in the next few days, looking forward to trying their collaboration with Beavertown.

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London should come out of lockdown on 15:02 - Nov 9 with 1728 viewsgiant_stow

London should come out of lockdown on 15:01 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue

I have an Adnams order coming in the next few days, looking forward to trying their collaboration with Beavertown.

SB


Can't beat a bit of Adnams. Wherry comes close, but not quite...

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London should come out of lockdown on 15:12 - Nov 9 with 1698 viewsSteve_M

London should come out of lockdown on 15:01 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue

I have an Adnams order coming in the next few days, looking forward to trying their collaboration with Beavertown.

SB


I had one turn up last week, will keep me well stocked for the next month.

I've had one of the Strange Seas so far, quite liked it but was a bit sweet but that might have been in contrast to something more robust beforehand. Think it might be own to have the odd one of at a time rather than serially.

As for Ulla's OP, if London rates do stay low then it's potentially good news for a loosening of restrictions in December but there was quite a lot of variation between boroughs three weeks ago so it would need to be a cross-city fall rather than merely the average.

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London should come out of lockdown on 15:20 - Nov 9 with 1652 viewsCoastalblue

London should come out of lockdown on 14:54 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue

You should have at least been getting takeaway beers from Pillars and Wildcard to ensure they are open post-Covid!

SB


Not to mention a bottle or two of Mother's Ruin

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London should come out of lockdown on 15:34 - Nov 9 with 1615 viewsGavTWTD

London should come out of lockdown on 14:50 - Nov 9 by giant_stow

Yes, it might piss the northerners off, but the numbers are very different, so could be justifable. On the whole, I think I agree with you about keeping lockdown going, but interesting stuff all the same


The problem with local lockdowns is there's little to stop people from high rated areas going to lower rated areas for a night out/weekend away. At least with a national lockdown it stops that. Would have been better to get Wales and Scotland to do the same... but...

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London should come out of lockdown on 15:48 - Nov 9 with 1576 viewsgiant_stow

London should come out of lockdown on 15:34 - Nov 9 by GavTWTD

The problem with local lockdowns is there's little to stop people from high rated areas going to lower rated areas for a night out/weekend away. At least with a national lockdown it stops that. Would have been better to get Wales and Scotland to do the same... but...


very true.

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London should come out of lockdown on 16:01 - Nov 9 with 1538 viewsGavTWTD

London should come out of lockdown on 15:48 - Nov 9 by giant_stow

very true.


This is an excellent interactive map that you can zoom around and change the dates on. London doesn't look out of the woods yet.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map

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London should come out of lockdown on 16:26 - Nov 9 with 1482 viewsSteve_M

London should come out of lockdown on 16:01 - Nov 9 by GavTWTD

This is an excellent interactive map that you can zoom around and change the dates on. London doesn't look out of the woods yet.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map


The week-to-week fluctuation in small areas is quite noticeable. It's obviously the result of hard boundaries between grades and also the area breaks (I thought it was at ward level initially but that doesn't seem to be the case where I am).

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London should come out of lockdown on 16:37 - Nov 9 with 1445 viewsfactual_blue

It's all those bloody foreigners innit.

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London should come out of lockdown on 18:08 - Nov 9 with 1343 viewsBlueBadger

London should come out of lockdown on 14:41 - Nov 9 by hype313

Due to the fact that it got hit hard at the start?


I understand there's far, far fewer commuters coming into London and have been for some time now. Compared to the North where there's been a lot of movement of people to various universities, for example.

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London should come out of lockdown on 18:12 - Nov 9 with 1332 viewsFrimleyBlue

I still think sport is one of the main reasons why London got hit so hard last time.

Think how many supporters go through London just to get to games. Then add theatres etc ontop.

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London should come out of lockdown on 18:33 - Nov 9 with 1293 views26_Paz

Higher levels of immunity in London because much more people there got it first time around

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