| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... 10:47 - Nov 28 with 1872 views | Matt_Netherlands |
As much as I want him gone, I’d never actively wish defeat on us!
I do worry though that as soon as things get this and, it’s beyond the Point of repair! I think we passed that point last February / March.... |  | | |  |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 10:54 - Nov 28 with 1842 views | 26_Paz |
I hate to break it to people but he’s not going to get sacked if we lose today |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 10:56 - Nov 28 with 1845 views | SomethingBlue |
I'm desperate for us to win today, it'd leave us well placed and take points off a rival. We need it, whoever the manager ends up being. Doesn't have to change any wider concerns. |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 10:59 - Nov 28 with 1822 views | BlueBadger |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 10:54 - Nov 28 by 26_Paz |
I hate to break it to people but he’s not going to get sacked if we lose today |
That will only happen when it's too late, sadly. |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:00 - Nov 28 with 1820 views | pointofblue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 10:56 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
I'm desperate for us to win today, it'd leave us well placed and take points off a rival. We need it, whoever the manager ends up being. Doesn't have to change any wider concerns. |
Charlton have no centre backs. If we win today it’s likely to be little more than a smokescreen over existing issues once again. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:06 - Nov 28 with 1802 views | SomethingBlue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:00 - Nov 28 by pointofblue |
Charlton have no centre backs. If we win today it’s likely to be little more than a smokescreen over existing issues once again. |
(And we have one third of a midfield)
I get that and it means we have a better chance than people think today but we do need to get out of this division and need the points, so I'd rather take the win and then worry about the manager. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:07]
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:09 - Nov 28 with 1789 views | pointofblue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:06 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
(And we have one third of a midfield)
I get that and it means we have a better chance than people think today but we do need to get out of this division and need the points, so I'd rather take the win and then worry about the manager. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:07]
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Oh me too, I desperately want the win. I also understand that, in the eyes of the fans, it will be the first of many matches to be won before we are convinced the corner is turned. I fear Evans and Lambert may see it otherwise. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:10 - Nov 28 with 1782 views | Herbivore |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:06 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
(And we have one third of a midfield)
I get that and it means we have a better chance than people think today but we do need to get out of this division and need the points, so I'd rather take the win and then worry about the manager. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:07]
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The problem becomes that a spawny win buys the manager more time and then harms our long term chances. We can overcome a defeat to Charlton over the remaining games, can we overcome Lambert getting another 5 games off the back of beating them? |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:12 - Nov 28 with 1775 views | strikalite |
Unfortunately we can't have it both ways, feel nothing about todays game and it really shouldn't be like this....really mixed feelings. |  | | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:13 - Nov 28 with 1770 views | SomethingBlue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:10 - Nov 28 by Herbivore |
The problem becomes that a spawny win buys the manager more time and then harms our long term chances. We can overcome a defeat to Charlton over the remaining games, can we overcome Lambert getting another 5 games off the back of beating them? |
I just don't tend to buy that. If Evans has decided to make a change then presumably he'll do it soon enough, as he did despite Hurst beating Swansea (and indeed Magilton beating Norwich). Get those points on the board now, we are going to need them badly. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:13]
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:21 - Nov 28 with 1734 views | pointofblue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:13 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
I just don't tend to buy that. If Evans has decided to make a change then presumably he'll do it soon enough, as he did despite Hurst beating Swansea (and indeed Magilton beating Norwich). Get those points on the board now, we are going to need them badly. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:13]
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Magilton was out of the door as soon as we lost 3-1 at home to Doncaster; Evans just wanted to get Keane in place before letting him go. Doesn’t feel quite the same this time around. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:23 - Nov 28 with 1725 views | SomethingBlue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:21 - Nov 28 by pointofblue |
Magilton was out of the door as soon as we lost 3-1 at home to Doncaster; Evans just wanted to get Keane in place before letting him go. Doesn’t feel quite the same this time around. |
True on that point, but none of us really know the thinking currently so I'd err on the side of winning every game we can! And it's a big help if we can beat this particular opponent today. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:57 - Nov 28 with 1645 views | BlueBadger |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:06 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
(And we have one third of a midfield)
I get that and it means we have a better chance than people think today but we do need to get out of this division and need the points, so I'd rather take the win and then worry about the manager. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:07]
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Trouble is, if we somehow get promoted despite him, Evans will keep him on. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 12:23 - Nov 28 with 1595 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
My preference is we win well and go on from here and never look back. Of course, that is always my desire. However, my worst case scenario is we scrape some sort of result and prolong the agony. If the only way the necessary change happens is by virtue of a run of poor results, I accept that is better for our longer term future than prolonging the agony.
However, I am also fearful of what change would bring too. |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 12:23 - Nov 28 with 1593 views | Beckets |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:13 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
I just don't tend to buy that. If Evans has decided to make a change then presumably he'll do it soon enough, as he did despite Hurst beating Swansea (and indeed Magilton beating Norwich). Get those points on the board now, we are going to need them badly. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:13]
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I seem to remember Phil saying that the Swansea win bought Hurst a short stay of execution. A couple of games iirc. |  | | |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 13:49 - Nov 28 with 1481 views | Herbivore |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:13 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
I just don't tend to buy that. If Evans has decided to make a change then presumably he'll do it soon enough, as he did despite Hurst beating Swansea (and indeed Magilton beating Norwich). Get those points on the board now, we are going to need them badly. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 11:13]
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Although the Swansea game was followed by a further defeat (or two?) before the trigger was pulled. And a win today means we're likely to be in touch with the top 6 even if we follow it up with 3 or 4 straight defeats, which is quite possible looking at our fixtures, and then we're getting dangerously close to January with an inept manager still at the helm. A new man coming in could do with a few weeks with the players ahead of January when they might look to tinker with the squad. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 13:57 - Nov 28 with 1450 views | IpswichKnight |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 13:49 - Nov 28 by Herbivore |
Although the Swansea game was followed by a further defeat (or two?) before the trigger was pulled. And a win today means we're likely to be in touch with the top 6 even if we follow it up with 3 or 4 straight defeats, which is quite possible looking at our fixtures, and then we're getting dangerously close to January with an inept manager still at the helm. A new man coming in could do with a few weeks with the players ahead of January when they might look to tinker with the squad. |
Problem is who in there right mind would want any of the players we want to get rid of in January. We’ll probably have to wait until June when they are all out of contract before we can get rid of them. | | | |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 13:59 - Nov 28 with 1435 views | wkj |
Lambert is nowhere near that category for me, yet. If Lambert is capable of salvaging a bit of conviction in the team, a winning culture and less nonsense in pressers I would drop my disdain for him. However, if he does continue to go down the hole he's in, then whatever it takes for him to be canned is what I will want to see. |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:12 - Nov 28 with 1391 views | wkj |
Get the feeling a Lambert wants us to lose today so he gets sacked...
After naming that team | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:16 - Nov 28 with 1370 views | AJblue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 13:49 - Nov 28 by Herbivore |
Although the Swansea game was followed by a further defeat (or two?) before the trigger was pulled. And a win today means we're likely to be in touch with the top 6 even if we follow it up with 3 or 4 straight defeats, which is quite possible looking at our fixtures, and then we're getting dangerously close to January with an inept manager still at the helm. A new man coming in could do with a few weeks with the players ahead of January when they might look to tinker with the squad. |
I really dont disagree with anything you say here, however I do have a serious question, not just to you, but to anybody who can honestly answer without making facts up to suit an agenda.
"A new man coming in could do with a few weeks with the players ahead of January when they might look to tinker with the squad. "
This statement, is it factual or something all Town fans would hope that will happen?
Can we buy new players? Do we have to sell our under performing players first? If so who will buy them if they are under performing?
Doesn't the wage cap stop us from "tinkering" with the sqaud?
As I said, not arguing, just would like to know if a new manager could add to the team.and I mean team, not squad. |  |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:20 - Nov 28 with 1348 views | wkj |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:16 - Nov 28 by AJblue |
I really dont disagree with anything you say here, however I do have a serious question, not just to you, but to anybody who can honestly answer without making facts up to suit an agenda.
"A new man coming in could do with a few weeks with the players ahead of January when they might look to tinker with the squad. "
This statement, is it factual or something all Town fans would hope that will happen?
Can we buy new players? Do we have to sell our under performing players first? If so who will buy them if they are under performing?
Doesn't the wage cap stop us from "tinkering" with the sqaud?
As I said, not arguing, just would like to know if a new manager could add to the team.and I mean team, not squad. |
In this case I think a new manager could do a lot. We have much more youth options suited to this level of football than we did suited for the championship.
Dobra, Lankester, El Miz (still unsure why he went out on loan in all honesty).
Lambert is hunkered down into a tactical mindset that doesn't get the best out of all the talent he has. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:25 - Nov 28 with 1333 views | AJblue |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:20 - Nov 28 by wkj |
In this case I think a new manager could do a lot. We have much more youth options suited to this level of football than we did suited for the championship.
Dobra, Lankester, El Miz (still unsure why he went out on loan in all honesty).
Lambert is hunkered down into a tactical mindset that doesn't get the best out of all the talent he has. |
Thanks for your perspective.
Again I agree with what you say, but I believe what Herbs was indicating was a foray into the transfer market (or am I wrong?)
Our youth deserve a run out, Judge being picked again today is beyond my comprehension. Dobra or Lankester should surely be given a chance, but a new manager would want some fresh blood, and are we able to offer that to whomever thet may be?
If not, are we an attractive option to a new manager, unless they are an over rated journeyman, looking for a final payday somewhat like the present incumbent? | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:31 - Nov 28 with 1311 views | wkj |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:25 - Nov 28 by AJblue |
Thanks for your perspective.
Again I agree with what you say, but I believe what Herbs was indicating was a foray into the transfer market (or am I wrong?)
Our youth deserve a run out, Judge being picked again today is beyond my comprehension. Dobra or Lankester should surely be given a chance, but a new manager would want some fresh blood, and are we able to offer that to whomever thet may be?
If not, are we an attractive option to a new manager, unless they are an over rated journeyman, looking for a final payday somewhat like the present incumbent? |
I think it would depend who the new manager is quite honestly. A lower league minded manager might be more beneficial for us, as in someone who is used to making the most of what he has.
Any manager coming here would have the added benefit of a lot of good players poised to return from injury.
One thing I can say is that I don't for a second believe that a new manager will have a better run than Lambert, in many ways being 4th in L1 is quite intimidating for a new manager to come in and apply his trade - but at this point Lambert has checked out in my mind - we need that new manager bounce (if it actually exists) and someone who realises that our youth players are pretty much going to have no choice but to be starting 11 next seasons, especially if we fail promotion. | |
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| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 14:37 - Nov 28 with 1292 views | itfcjoe |
| Get the feeling a lot of people want us to lose today so he gets sacked... on 11:23 - Nov 28 by SomethingBlue |
True on that point, but none of us really know the thinking currently so I'd err on the side of winning every game we can! And it's a big help if we can beat this particular opponent today. |
I don't think it's about wanting to win or lose, but just looking at the team selected.
Dozzell (who doesn't have much senior football behind him) and 2 rookies, then 2 widemen who have been terrible (bit harsh on bennetts....but) and lack any positional discipline, 2 35 year old full backs who will ahve to manage the whole flank on their own.
Toto at the back, who is a walking error and a change of keeper.
We look badly coached at the best of times, I just can't see any shape to this side - and Lee Bowyer has shown himself to be very tactically smart and adaptable, and prepares his teams well |  |
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