| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine 13:45 - Jun 18 with 1633 views | ElderGrizzly |
For Semi-finals and Final. And threatening to take it to Hungary if the Govt don't agree.
Uefa said on Friday that it was in discussions about allowing supporters travelling to the UK to avoid having to quarantine.
“At the moment, we are in discussions with the local authorities to try to allow fans of the participating teams to attend the matches, using a strict testing and bubble concept that would mean their stay in the UK would be less than 24 hours and their movements would be restricted to approved transport and venues only,” a spokesperson said.
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 13:58 - Jun 18 with 1321 views | Swansea_Blue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 13:49 - Jun 18 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed.
40,000 fans from any country, whether that is Amber or Red list allowed in
As long as they "stay in a bubble", are here for only 24 hours and go from transport to hotel to stadium only.
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It's unlikely to work, unless they could bubble transport them. That would be logistically highly unlikely.
Why should these supposed VIPs and politicians get priority treatment over normal fans anyway? The amount of sacrifices people have been making and then they contemplate just waiving away the laws because..well money. Fine for those officials needed to run the game, as long as there are some covid protocols in place. But all those on freebie jollies can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned.
Football is dead part 8,348,43,998. Grumble, grumble. |  |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:13 - Jun 18 with 1252 views | ElderGrizzly |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 13:58 - Jun 18 by Swansea_Blue |
It's unlikely to work, unless they could bubble transport them. That would be logistically highly unlikely.
Why should these supposed VIPs and politicians get priority treatment over normal fans anyway? The amount of sacrifices people have been making and then they contemplate just waiving away the laws because..well money. Fine for those officials needed to run the game, as long as there are some covid protocols in place. But all those on freebie jollies can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned.
Football is dead part 8,348,43,998. Grumble, grumble. |
2,500 VIPs, but now they are also asking for 40,000 fans to be allowed in too without quarantine.
All utterly bizarre given our current 'lockdown' extension | | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:14 - Jun 18 with 1244 views | DanTheMan |
Sounds like a terrible idea. |  |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:16 - Jun 18 with 1234 views | Ely_Blue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:13 - Jun 18 by ElderGrizzly |
2,500 VIPs, but now they are also asking for 40,000 fans to be allowed in too without quarantine.
All utterly bizarre given our current 'lockdown' extension |
If they can all show vaccination passports or proof of double jabs then sure, I mean that’s what the majority of our population are advocating for summer holidays this year.
No vaccine=no entry should be the proposal put to them |  |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:28 - Jun 18 with 1201 views | StokieBlue |
Saw this on Newsnight last night.
It's absolutely outrageous, they can't guaranteed the movements like they have said and to apply this type of political and economic pressure during a pandemic is hugely out of order.
UEFA can fook off.
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:29 - Jun 18 with 1196 views | StokieBlue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:16 - Jun 18 by Ely_Blue |
If they can all show vaccination passports or proof of double jabs then sure, I mean that’s what the majority of our population are advocating for summer holidays this year.
No vaccine=no entry should be the proposal put to them |
That doesn't stop all transmission.
There is a red list for a reason, you are saying that people from that red listed country should be able to come without hotel quarantine which is simply against the rules and a terrible idea.
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:32 - Jun 18 with 1170 views | Ely_Blue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:29 - Jun 18 by StokieBlue |
That doesn't stop all transmission.
There is a red list for a reason, you are saying that people from that red listed country should be able to come without hotel quarantine which is simply against the rules and a terrible idea.
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The OP doesn’t mention red list countries.
Which UEFA countries are red list countries? | |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:36 - Jun 18 with 1162 views | XYZ |
Italy's just announced a 5 day quarantine for travellers from the UK. It'd be interesting to see if they're exempt when returning from the final. |  | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:41 - Jun 18 with 1143 views | StokieBlue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:32 - Jun 18 by Ely_Blue |
The OP doesn’t mention red list countries.
Which UEFA countries are red list countries? |
The 40000 fans can come from any country, that is the point, UEFA want no quarantine for the fans or for the officials.
Given this they can't guarantee none of the people coming won't be from red list countries. The issue here is they want to ignore our rules and are using the final as a way to force that through - it's outrageous behaviour really.
SB [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 15:42]
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:53 - Jun 18 with 1110 views | Ely_Blue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:41 - Jun 18 by StokieBlue |
The 40000 fans can come from any country, that is the point, UEFA want no quarantine for the fans or for the officials.
Given this they can't guarantee none of the people coming won't be from red list countries. The issue here is they want to ignore our rules and are using the final as a way to force that through - it's outrageous behaviour really.
SB [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 15:42]
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My argument is we are set to introduce rules for the uk for people wanting to holiday in amber and green countries where no self isolation is required if double vaccinated so what is the difference here?
I’m not advocating allowing people in from red list countries (of which I’m still waiting on you to tell me what red list countries there are in the UEFA area) | |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:55 - Jun 18 with 1100 views | DanTheMan |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:53 - Jun 18 by Ely_Blue |
My argument is we are set to introduce rules for the uk for people wanting to holiday in amber and green countries where no self isolation is required if double vaccinated so what is the difference here?
I’m not advocating allowing people in from red list countries (of which I’m still waiting on you to tell me what red list countries there are in the UEFA area) |
Out of interest, why do you want a list just for UEFA countries when the spectators are not limited to people from UEFA countries, at least to my knowledge? [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 15:55]
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:55 - Jun 18 with 1099 views | Parsley |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:41 - Jun 18 by StokieBlue |
The 40000 fans can come from any country, that is the point, UEFA want no quarantine for the fans or for the officials.
Given this they can't guarantee none of the people coming won't be from red list countries. The issue here is they want to ignore our rules and are using the final as a way to force that through - it's outrageous behaviour really.
SB [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 15:42]
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Turkey is the only one on the red list. I don't think it's that outrageous as the same reason that the champions league final was moved to Portugal, so there's a precedent. |  | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:30 - Jun 18 with 1040 views | Basuco |
Britain allowed 20,000 people to travel in from India between 2nd April and the 23rd April when Pakistan and Bangladesh were on the red list , so this is no worse than that IMO. Still madness if the Government were to agree to it. |  | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:33 - Jun 18 with 1029 views | ClareBlue |
Is that the Hungry with the second highest per capita death rate from Covid in the world? That should pan out well.
Am never sure how far this organisation can go with their immoral behaviour but they seem to be able to lower the bar just when we think they have reached the bottom.
Maybe the sponsors should take some responsibility and day they will follow the requirements as should everyone. | | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:34 - Jun 18 with 1023 views | ElderGrizzly |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:30 - Jun 18 by Basuco |
Britain allowed 20,000 people to travel in from India between 2nd April and the 23rd April when Pakistan and Bangladesh were on the red list , so this is no worse than that IMO. Still madness if the Government were to agree to it. |
And that ended well didn't it? | | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:39 - Jun 18 with 1011 views | noggin |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:29 - Jun 18 by StokieBlue |
That doesn't stop all transmission.
There is a red list for a reason, you are saying that people from that red listed country should be able to come without hotel quarantine which is simply against the rules and a terrible idea.
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Sky News are saying that 1/3 of deaths from the Delta variant, in the UK, have been fully vaccinated. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 16:39]
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:02 - Jun 18 with 975 views | ElderGrizzly |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:39 - Jun 18 by noggin |
Sky News are saying that 1/3 of deaths from the Delta variant, in the UK, have been fully vaccinated. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 16:39]
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Not a surprise. Vaccines aren't 100% effective | | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:05 - Jun 18 with 967 views | Ely_Blue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:39 - Jun 18 by noggin |
Sky News are saying that 1/3 of deaths from the Delta variant, in the UK, have been fully vaccinated. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 16:39]
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I wonder how many of those contracted covid inside the first 2 weeks after having their 2nd jab! | |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:13 - Jun 18 with 953 views | Lord_Lucan |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 16:39 - Jun 18 by noggin |
Sky News are saying that 1/3 of deaths from the Delta variant, in the UK, have been fully vaccinated. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 16:39]
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Did they die from the Delta variant or were they popping their clogs anyway and either rightly or wrongly tested positive whilst popping their clogs anyway?
There's a lot of it about! |  |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:47 - Jun 18 with 897 views | noggin |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:13 - Jun 18 by Lord_Lucan |
Did they die from the Delta variant or were they popping their clogs anyway and either rightly or wrongly tested positive whilst popping their clogs anyway?
There's a lot of it about! |
Impossible to say I imagine. Does pose questions about travel though. | |
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:55 - Jun 18 with 879 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:32 - Jun 18 by Ely_Blue |
The OP doesn’t mention red list countries.
Which UEFA countries are red list countries? |
Turkey, but they are all but out. | | | |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:59 - Jun 18 with 863 views | StokieBlue |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 15:55 - Jun 18 by Parsley |
Turkey is the only one on the red list. I don't think it's that outrageous as the same reason that the champions league final was moved to Portugal, so there's a precedent. |
That's not a precedent though, the rules between Portugal and the UK are totally different and the Portuguese were lax and they are suffering for it now.
Why do fans only have to come from Europe? Same with officials?
Some really muddled thinking on this thread.
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| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 18:00 - Jun 18 with 862 views | DanTheMan |
| UEFA putting pressure on to allow VIPs and fans into UK without quarantine on 17:13 - Jun 18 by Lord_Lucan |
Did they die from the Delta variant or were they popping their clogs anyway and either rightly or wrongly tested positive whilst popping their clogs anyway?
There's a lot of it about! |
Is there? Do you have any statistics? | |
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