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Ooooh lala innit 21:15 - Jun 28 with 860 viewsMullet

Missed penalty after another example of why VAR is ruining football, then Benzema does that. C'est sexy innit.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:17 - Jun 28 with 662 viewsMullet

Old Dave Javue popping up again there

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:18 - Jun 28 with 652 viewsStokieBlue

What example of why VAR is ruining football?

Zubar was very sporting and tried to play on. Entirely right that he got the penalty.

France have won it now anyway.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:20 - Jun 28 with 615 viewsbazza

Ooooh lala innit on 21:18 - Jun 28 by StokieBlue

What example of why VAR is ruining football?

Zubar was very sporting and tried to play on. Entirely right that he got the penalty.

France have won it now anyway.

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I think it adds a bit of excitement and when the decision is right, even better.
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Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 with 594 viewsMullet

Ooooh lala innit on 21:18 - Jun 28 by StokieBlue

What example of why VAR is ruining football?

Zubar was very sporting and tried to play on. Entirely right that he got the penalty.

France have won it now anyway.

SB


Refs should ref, in real time. If it's a penalty give it. Don't let France go up the other end then check.

Every game is now reffed on this sense of having a get out - I hate it. Let refs, ref. Unless they're British. Our refs seems utterly incapable of working VAR too.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 with 589 viewsSwansea_Blue

An example of why we need VAR imo. How the officials missed that is anyone's guess.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 with 587 viewsgainsboroughblue

The look to VAR was a long time after the incident. France actually had an attack and could have scored themselves before the ref checked. What would have happened had France actually scored?

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:23 - Jun 28 with 564 viewspointofblue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 by gainsboroughblue

The look to VAR was a long time after the incident. France actually had an attack and could have scored themselves before the ref checked. What would have happened had France actually scored?


Goal disallowed and the play pulled back for the penalty to be taken.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:23 - Jun 28 with 564 viewsMattinLondon

Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 by gainsboroughblue

The look to VAR was a long time after the incident. France actually had an attack and could have scored themselves before the ref checked. What would have happened had France actually scored?


Would have been chalked off and the penalty given to the Swiss.
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Ooooh lala innit on 21:25 - Jun 28 with 542 viewsgainsboroughblue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:23 - Jun 28 by pointofblue

Goal disallowed and the play pulled back for the penalty to be taken.


Cheers. Seemed the obvious answer in a kind of non-obvious way. Just goes to show how important it is to stop play immediately if you are going to check.

Especially if the VAR check had deemed it NOT a pen.
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Ooooh lala innit on 21:26 - Jun 28 with 523 viewsStokieBlue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 by Mullet

Refs should ref, in real time. If it's a penalty give it. Don't let France go up the other end then check.

Every game is now reffed on this sense of having a get out - I hate it. Let refs, ref. Unless they're British. Our refs seems utterly incapable of working VAR too.


But the logical extension of that is that Zubar should go down and guarantee the penalty and then everyone complains about players going down too easily. In your scenario he's penalised for doing the right thing.

In general VAR has been good in this tournament.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:26 - Jun 28 with 520 viewsMullet

Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 by Swansea_Blue

An example of why we need VAR imo. How the officials missed that is anyone's guess.


I don't think he missed it at all. I think he knew he could do that. If we were back in the proper days he'd have blown immediately

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:27 - Jun 28 with 510 viewsDubtractor

Ooooh lala innit on 21:26 - Jun 28 by StokieBlue

But the logical extension of that is that Zubar should go down and guarantee the penalty and then everyone complains about players going down too easily. In your scenario he's penalised for doing the right thing.

In general VAR has been good in this tournament.

SB


I think the point is that was so obvious it shouldn't have needed VAR - almost like the ref bottled the decision as he knew he'd got VAR as a back up.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:28 - Jun 28 with 509 viewsStokieBlue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 by gainsboroughblue

The look to VAR was a long time after the incident. France actually had an attack and could have scored themselves before the ref checked. What would have happened had France actually scored?


If they had scored then tough luck.

France committed an earlier offence which they should have been penalised for and were. What they did afterwards is irrelevant.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:28 - Jun 28 with 503 viewsChrisd

When the French play like this, you can see why they are one of the best sides in world football. The missed penalty gave them all a kick up the ar*e. Frighteningly good.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:29 - Jun 28 with 489 viewsStokieBlue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:26 - Jun 28 by Mullet

I don't think he missed it at all. I think he knew he could do that. If we were back in the proper days he'd have blown immediately


That is certainly possible and in that case it's poor refereeing.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:30 - Jun 28 with 475 viewsMullet

Ooooh lala innit on 21:26 - Jun 28 by StokieBlue

But the logical extension of that is that Zubar should go down and guarantee the penalty and then everyone complains about players going down too easily. In your scenario he's penalised for doing the right thing.

In general VAR has been good in this tournament.

SB


VAR being good is because we are used to the Prem use of it with it's marker pen lines and odd angles. The whole waiting 90 seconds to celebrate a goal.... rubbish. They may as well have those TV audience applause signs now.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:30 - Jun 28 with 474 viewsStokieBlue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:27 - Jun 28 by Dubtractor

I think the point is that was so obvious it shouldn't have needed VAR - almost like the ref bottled the decision as he knew he'd got VAR as a back up.


But historically refs have never given decisions if players try and stay on their feet.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:33 - Jun 28 with 447 viewsMullet

Has he ever done that for United?

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:33 - Jun 28 with 442 viewsgainsboroughblue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:28 - Jun 28 by StokieBlue

If they had scored then tough luck.

France committed an earlier offence which they should have been penalised for and were. What they did afterwards is irrelevant.

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I get that. But if the ref was going to review that, it seemed a bit farcical to me, to allow France to have a goal scoring opportunity before doing so.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:34 - Jun 28 with 438 viewsStokieBlue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:33 - Jun 28 by Mullet

Has he ever done that for United?


Brilliant goal.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:35 - Jun 28 with 421 viewsStokieBlue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:33 - Jun 28 by gainsboroughblue

I get that. But if the ref was going to review that, it seemed a bit farcical to me, to allow France to have a goal scoring opportunity before doing so.


The ref didn't review it. The VAR team reviewed it and then asked him to take a look.

I don't think he knows that they are reviewing it until they contact him and say look at the screen.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:35 - Jun 28 with 418 viewsgainsboroughblue

Not that any of this matters now anyway. 3-1 France. Showing their class now.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:36 - Jun 28 with 404 viewsgainsboroughblue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:35 - Jun 28 by StokieBlue

The ref didn't review it. The VAR team reviewed it and then asked him to take a look.

I don't think he knows that they are reviewing it until they contact him and say look at the screen.

SB


Oh right. Didn't realise that's how it worked. Thought it was more of a cricket umpire calling for the third umpire type scenario.
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Ooooh lala innit on 21:39 - Jun 28 with 368 viewsSwansea_Blue

Ooooh lala innit on 21:21 - Jun 28 by Mullet

Refs should ref, in real time. If it's a penalty give it. Don't let France go up the other end then check.

Every game is now reffed on this sense of having a get out - I hate it. Let refs, ref. Unless they're British. Our refs seems utterly incapable of working VAR too.


I'm definitely not a fan of them letting things go because they know VAR will pick it up. I know why they do of course, it's the lesser of two evils. But if they can't spot a foul like that one, they shouldn't be reffing. And I think in their case the ref and lino had no clue that there'd been a foul so we need VAR, sadly.

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Ooooh lala innit on 21:40 - Jun 28 with 357 viewsSimonds92

Ooooh lala innit on 21:33 - Jun 28 by gainsboroughblue

I get that. But if the ref was going to review that, it seemed a bit farcical to me, to allow France to have a goal scoring opportunity before doing so.


Why? What if Pavard played the ball and the ref stopping the game for review potentially then stopped a France goal. I think it was dealt with correctly if the ref wasn't going to give it straight away. As previously mentioned by others, players should not be penalised by trying to stay on their feet and at least VAR prevented this.
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