| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming 08:18 - Jan 28 with 6220 views | ElderGrizzly |
The report will literally be blank
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:21 - Jan 28 with 2564 views | StokieBlue |
It's annoying now, he needed to be gone last week on the back of a scathing report.
What's the point of the report if it can't detail the most important breaches.
The Met have screwed this up, they should have been investigating before the report was even started.
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:23 - Jan 28 with 2541 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:21 - Jan 28 by StokieBlue |
It's annoying now, he needed to be gone last week on the back of a scathing report.
What's the point of the report if it can't detail the most important breaches.
The Met have screwed this up, they should have been investigating before the report was even started.
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Put very well here
And you can bet Johnson or his sycophants will use it as a defence of no wrong doing | | | |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:26 - Jan 28 with 2498 views | GlasgowBlue |
This was always going to be too big to sweep under the carpet by just one person. Good of the Met to help out. |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:27 - Jan 28 with 2498 views | StokieBlue |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:23 - Jan 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Put very well here
And you can bet Johnson or his sycophants will use it as a defence of no wrong doing |
People not paying attention might accept that Tory narrative as well.
As I said, the Met look rubbish here and it's far from the first time.
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:27 - Jan 28 with 2491 views | BlueBadger |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:26 - Jan 28 by GlasgowBlue |
This was always going to be too big to sweep under the carpet by just one person. Good of the Met to help out. |
Presumably they'll be starting their investigation by speaking to the officers who were running security? |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:28 - Jan 28 with 2488 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:26 - Jan 28 by GlasgowBlue |
This was always going to be too big to sweep under the carpet by just one person. Good of the Met to help out. |
Who of course were asked to investigate 2 months ago, but refused.
But happened to ‘find’ enough evidence 2 days before publication was due. | | | |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:30 - Jan 28 with 2471 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:27 - Jan 28 by StokieBlue |
People not paying attention might accept that Tory narrative as well.
As I said, the Met look rubbish here and it's far from the first time.
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They did in the US with the Trump/Mueller report of course.
Claim vindication, when the report effectively said he was guilty | | | |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:38 - Jan 28 with 2417 views | SomethingBlue |
People should be out on the streets, we live in a failed state and it stinks to hell. |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:40 - Jan 28 with 2402 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:28 - Jan 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Who of course were asked to investigate 2 months ago, but refused.
But happened to ‘find’ enough evidence 2 days before publication was due. |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:42 - Jan 28 with 2392 views | homer_123 |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:38 - Jan 28 by SomethingBlue |
People should be out on the streets, we live in a failed state and it stinks to hell. |
In a very typical British response....meh. [Post edited 28 Jan 2022 8:42]
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:42 - Jan 28 with 2393 views | homer_123 |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:21 - Jan 28 by StokieBlue |
It's annoying now, he needed to be gone last week on the back of a scathing report.
What's the point of the report if it can't detail the most important breaches.
The Met have screwed this up, they should have been investigating before the report was even started.
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What's the point of the report if it can't detail the most important breaches.
Me thinks this is the point to what is currently happening...sadly. | |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:55 - Jan 28 with 2320 views | Steve_M |
This reply seems the most likely scenario at this point:
However, with the majority of the public sceptical of Johnson now then I'm not sure it will make the issue go away. Johnson still has no authority, it's still a matter of when he goes now I think. |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:05 - Jan 28 with 2260 views | Fixed_It |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:55 - Jan 28 by Steve_M |
This reply seems the most likely scenario at this point:
However, with the majority of the public sceptical of Johnson now then I'm not sure it will make the issue go away. Johnson still has no authority, it's still a matter of when he goes now I think. |
It really is a sad state of affairs. And yet again the British public are being taken for mugs... |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:07 - Jan 28 with 2250 views | Guthrum |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:55 - Jan 28 by Steve_M |
This reply seems the most likely scenario at this point:
However, with the majority of the public sceptical of Johnson now then I'm not sure it will make the issue go away. Johnson still has no authority, it's still a matter of when he goes now I think. |
I think the public/media rage if they tried a stunt like that would be deafening. Far too obvious.
Also, too many people have already nailed their colours to the mast, they're not just going to meekly walk away. Bear in mind there are local elections coming up in May.
In addition, do the Met want to shred what little is left of their public credibility on the altar of a PM who is likely to fall into another crisis any moment and is happy to throw allies under the bus in order to save his own skin? |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:08 - Jan 28 with 2247 views | StokieBlue |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:42 - Jan 28 by homer_123 |
What's the point of the report if it can't detail the most important breaches.
Me thinks this is the point to what is currently happening...sadly. |
But if you believe that then you surely have to believe that the Met are implicitly trying to help the PM which is another quite large step.
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:11 - Jan 28 with 2227 views | Guthrum |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 08:23 - Jan 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Put very well here
And you can bet Johnson or his sycophants will use it as a defence of no wrong doing |
Tho the implication is exactly the opposite. Anything 'minimally referred to' in the Gray Report can thus be taken as serious enough for a criminal enquiry. | |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:13 - Jan 28 with 2211 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:07 - Jan 28 by Guthrum |
I think the public/media rage if they tried a stunt like that would be deafening. Far too obvious.
Also, too many people have already nailed their colours to the mast, they're not just going to meekly walk away. Bear in mind there are local elections coming up in May.
In addition, do the Met want to shred what little is left of their public credibility on the altar of a PM who is likely to fall into another crisis any moment and is happy to throw allies under the bus in order to save his own skin? |
The *only* defence of the Met approach here according to a QC is they have uncovered something that will require a jury trial rather than just a fine.
Even then it is a stretch apparently.
Investigate Fred West, just don't mention the patios... | | | |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:16 - Jan 28 with 2190 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:11 - Jan 28 by Guthrum |
Tho the implication is exactly the opposite. Anything 'minimally referred to' in the Gray Report can thus be taken as serious enough for a criminal enquiry. |
Yes, that is one theory according to a QC I mentioned above/below too.
Still a stretch apparently.
The timing of course is the main issue from a police force who were asked to look at the very same evidence 2 months ago | | | |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:21 - Jan 28 with 2131 views | keighleyblue |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:05 - Jan 28 by Fixed_It |
It really is a sad state of affairs. And yet again the British public are being taken for mugs... |
only that half of the British public with their eyes shut and fingers stuck firmly in their ears. |  | | |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:25 - Jan 28 with 2115 views | Guthrum |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:21 - Jan 28 by keighleyblue |
only that half of the British public with their eyes shut and fingers stuck firmly in their ears. |
There are increasingly fewer of them. A number of people I have spoken to who would normally be staunch, or at least habitual, Conservatives are now expressing dislike of Johnson or disgust at his antics. | |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:28 - Jan 28 with 2091 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
There must be some frenzied funny hand shaking going on out there! |  |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:39 - Jan 28 with 2039 views | BlueBadger |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:05 - Jan 28 by Fixed_It |
It really is a sad state of affairs. And yet again the British public are being taken for mugs... |
In all fairness, they were working off evidence obtained in 2016 that suggests 52% of them will fall for any old con. | |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:39 - Jan 28 with 2042 views | DublinBlue84 |
If you didn't see this coming over the past few days you're blind.
It was always going to play out like this
- Johnson knows the report is bad news for him
- He knows if he doesn't publish it fully people will cry cover up so needs an excuse.
- Someone may have decided that it might be beneficial that the police are involved.
- The Gray report will now be published, redacted with excuse it's to avoid prejudice
- Johnson will then pivot that it's for the police to determine what happened
- The police who have a higher burden of proof, will then investigate
- Because of the higher burden of proof, it will be much less damaging for Johnson
- Johnson will then present himself as being somewhat vindicated by the police report
- The scathing Gray report that was a danger to him, will never be fully published.
The fact the Met come out with this at the moment having said the opposite the week ago and avoided investigating this suggests that either the Met are completely incompetent or something else has made them suddenly change their mind.
The UK deserves better than this, what will now turn out to be a sham. | |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:40 - Jan 28 with 2034 views | DublinBlue84 |
| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:16 - Jan 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Yes, that is one theory according to a QC I mentioned above/below too.
Still a stretch apparently.
The timing of course is the main issue from a police force who were asked to look at the very same evidence 2 months ago |
Some of the evidence that Gray had, may well not exist anymore also..... | |
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| The Sue Gray whitewash is coming on 09:44 - Jan 28 with 1996 views | BlueBadger |
DaveU is awake to selflessly defend racism, homophobia, corruption, incompetence an criminality, I see. | |
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