| Bakinson is just 23 20:19 - Mar 24 with 4494 views | GlasgowBlue |
That surprised me. He plays like a man with more experience than that. And he will get better.
He'd be a very good addition of we sign him on a permanent deal in the summer. [Post edited 24 Mar 2022 20:19]
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 20:23 - Mar 24 with 3471 views | jasondozzell |
Agree. He makes mistakes but to be expected. I like his style. He has a good knack of seeing openings and competes well. |  | | |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 21:19 - Mar 24 with 3365 views | textbackup |
It’s the little tash that makes him look older.
Like an earlier 90’s basketball player [Post edited 25 Mar 2022 0:49]
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 22:03 - Mar 24 with 3274 views | Keno |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 21:19 - Mar 24 by textbackup |
It’s the little tash that makes him look older.
Like an earlier 90’s basketball player [Post edited 25 Mar 2022 0:49]
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Can he get some cream for the rash?
It certainly helped mine |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:02 - Mar 25 with 3073 views | ArnieM |
I think this is what KD was miffed about . For some reason this Club (he says) doesn’t want to give its own young players experience. But instead bring in other Clubs young players to gain experience. He might well have a point. You can only gain experience if you get given that chance on the pitch.
Why isn’t Cameron Humphries being given a chance, or Bailey Clements? Are these two loanees really any better than our own. According to KD they’re not and this seems to be why he’s left coz he can’t see a pathway for his U23’s . We need goals . Our strikers can’t hit an elephants arse from 2 feet . So why aren’t we at least trying Simpson from the bench ?
I’m certainly not a “KD for manager”, he’s not good enough . But he’s an excellent coach and that’ll be where he ends up I suspect . But I feel he has a point about the pathway to first team gif our youngsters. If this Club had no intention of ever using them why have an academy . You can’t cherry pick an” appropriate time to adopt” that pathway. Eg we need to get promoted first . You either believe in the academy ethos of you don’t .
Any regards Bakinson ( your original point), I’d agree he’s improving with more games , and I’d sign him for next season . Thompson ? No thanks , he doesn’t get forward enough which is exactly what McKenna wants . Which youngster does that ? Bailey Clements! |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:22 - Mar 25 with 3048 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:02 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I think this is what KD was miffed about . For some reason this Club (he says) doesn’t want to give its own young players experience. But instead bring in other Clubs young players to gain experience. He might well have a point. You can only gain experience if you get given that chance on the pitch.
Why isn’t Cameron Humphries being given a chance, or Bailey Clements? Are these two loanees really any better than our own. According to KD they’re not and this seems to be why he’s left coz he can’t see a pathway for his U23’s . We need goals . Our strikers can’t hit an elephants arse from 2 feet . So why aren’t we at least trying Simpson from the bench ?
I’m certainly not a “KD for manager”, he’s not good enough . But he’s an excellent coach and that’ll be where he ends up I suspect . But I feel he has a point about the pathway to first team gif our youngsters. If this Club had no intention of ever using them why have an academy . You can’t cherry pick an” appropriate time to adopt” that pathway. Eg we need to get promoted first . You either believe in the academy ethos of you don’t .
Any regards Bakinson ( your original point), I’d agree he’s improving with more games , and I’d sign him for next season . Thompson ? No thanks , he doesn’t get forward enough which is exactly what McKenna wants . Which youngster does that ? Bailey Clements! |
Bailey Clements was given a chance.
Bakinson has made 23 league appearances in the Championship and 102 appearances in League one/two.
Cameron Humphreys Is five years younger than Bakinson and only signed his first professional contract just 8 months ago.
We are a team that is having to go into every game treating it like a cup final because we were so far adrift. I’m sure our younger players will get a look in next year. | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:23 - Mar 25 with 3046 views | Dubtractor |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:02 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I think this is what KD was miffed about . For some reason this Club (he says) doesn’t want to give its own young players experience. But instead bring in other Clubs young players to gain experience. He might well have a point. You can only gain experience if you get given that chance on the pitch.
Why isn’t Cameron Humphries being given a chance, or Bailey Clements? Are these two loanees really any better than our own. According to KD they’re not and this seems to be why he’s left coz he can’t see a pathway for his U23’s . We need goals . Our strikers can’t hit an elephants arse from 2 feet . So why aren’t we at least trying Simpson from the bench ?
I’m certainly not a “KD for manager”, he’s not good enough . But he’s an excellent coach and that’ll be where he ends up I suspect . But I feel he has a point about the pathway to first team gif our youngsters. If this Club had no intention of ever using them why have an academy . You can’t cherry pick an” appropriate time to adopt” that pathway. Eg we need to get promoted first . You either believe in the academy ethos of you don’t .
Any regards Bakinson ( your original point), I’d agree he’s improving with more games , and I’d sign him for next season . Thompson ? No thanks , he doesn’t get forward enough which is exactly what McKenna wants . Which youngster does that ? Bailey Clements! |
Bailey Clements isn't half the player Thompson is. Homegrown player or not, he's not good enough.
Humphreys definitely seems a prospect though. |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:48 - Mar 25 with 2989 views | ArnieM |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:23 - Mar 25 by Dubtractor |
Bailey Clements isn't half the player Thompson is. Homegrown player or not, he's not good enough.
Humphreys definitely seems a prospect though. |
I feel Clements is the better prospect . He defends well , gets forward and crosses into the box very well. Thompson might do his defensive duties ok but he offers very little in that wing back role. A role that McKenna wants on that left side. We’ll see what happens over the summer. I can see us signing Bakinson but I’m not so sure about Thompson. | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 08:01 - Mar 25 with 2963 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:48 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I feel Clements is the better prospect . He defends well , gets forward and crosses into the box very well. Thompson might do his defensive duties ok but he offers very little in that wing back role. A role that McKenna wants on that left side. We’ll see what happens over the summer. I can see us signing Bakinson but I’m not so sure about Thompson. |
Lol. You're fallen into the KD trap of thinking players are great just because they're from the u23s.
Clements is terrible. |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 08:18 - Mar 25 with 2931 views | textbackup |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:02 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I think this is what KD was miffed about . For some reason this Club (he says) doesn’t want to give its own young players experience. But instead bring in other Clubs young players to gain experience. He might well have a point. You can only gain experience if you get given that chance on the pitch.
Why isn’t Cameron Humphries being given a chance, or Bailey Clements? Are these two loanees really any better than our own. According to KD they’re not and this seems to be why he’s left coz he can’t see a pathway for his U23’s . We need goals . Our strikers can’t hit an elephants arse from 2 feet . So why aren’t we at least trying Simpson from the bench ?
I’m certainly not a “KD for manager”, he’s not good enough . But he’s an excellent coach and that’ll be where he ends up I suspect . But I feel he has a point about the pathway to first team gif our youngsters. If this Club had no intention of ever using them why have an academy . You can’t cherry pick an” appropriate time to adopt” that pathway. Eg we need to get promoted first . You either believe in the academy ethos of you don’t .
Any regards Bakinson ( your original point), I’d agree he’s improving with more games , and I’d sign him for next season . Thompson ? No thanks , he doesn’t get forward enough which is exactly what McKenna wants . Which youngster does that ? Bailey Clements! |
The same clement who played loads at start of season?
Thompson a huge upgrade on him
And backinson gives a physical presence, unsure on the other lads physical size, but I’d guess in league 1 he might be a bit lightweight | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 08:31 - Mar 25 with 2879 views | Beckets |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:48 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I feel Clements is the better prospect . He defends well , gets forward and crosses into the box very well. Thompson might do his defensive duties ok but he offers very little in that wing back role. A role that McKenna wants on that left side. We’ll see what happens over the summer. I can see us signing Bakinson but I’m not so sure about Thompson. |
Really? Clements can’t get into a struggling League 2 side. At the same age Thompson is a regular in a top half League 1 team. |  | | |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 09:44 - Mar 25 with 2747 views | Garv |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:02 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I think this is what KD was miffed about . For some reason this Club (he says) doesn’t want to give its own young players experience. But instead bring in other Clubs young players to gain experience. He might well have a point. You can only gain experience if you get given that chance on the pitch.
Why isn’t Cameron Humphries being given a chance, or Bailey Clements? Are these two loanees really any better than our own. According to KD they’re not and this seems to be why he’s left coz he can’t see a pathway for his U23’s . We need goals . Our strikers can’t hit an elephants arse from 2 feet . So why aren’t we at least trying Simpson from the bench ?
I’m certainly not a “KD for manager”, he’s not good enough . But he’s an excellent coach and that’ll be where he ends up I suspect . But I feel he has a point about the pathway to first team gif our youngsters. If this Club had no intention of ever using them why have an academy . You can’t cherry pick an” appropriate time to adopt” that pathway. Eg we need to get promoted first . You either believe in the academy ethos of you don’t .
Any regards Bakinson ( your original point), I’d agree he’s improving with more games , and I’d sign him for next season . Thompson ? No thanks , he doesn’t get forward enough which is exactly what McKenna wants . Which youngster does that ? Bailey Clements! |
Are you trying to make Bailey Clements out to be an attacking full back?
That was exactly the attribute he was lacking when he somehow got 4/5 games in a row earlier in the season, that along with being too lightweight and generally not good enough. Penney isn't Roberto Carlos but if he was fit it was a travesty Clements was playing ahead of him at the time. The Rotherham game alone was proof of this, the difference when one replaced the other was obvious. |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 09:59 - Mar 25 with 2683 views | davblue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 08:01 - Mar 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. You're fallen into the KD trap of thinking players are great just because they're from the u23s.
Clements is terrible. |
It's almost like managers who you have blind faith in despite results on the pitch huh? |  | | |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 10:23 - Mar 25 with 2636 views | itfcjoe |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:02 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I think this is what KD was miffed about . For some reason this Club (he says) doesn’t want to give its own young players experience. But instead bring in other Clubs young players to gain experience. He might well have a point. You can only gain experience if you get given that chance on the pitch.
Why isn’t Cameron Humphries being given a chance, or Bailey Clements? Are these two loanees really any better than our own. According to KD they’re not and this seems to be why he’s left coz he can’t see a pathway for his U23’s . We need goals . Our strikers can’t hit an elephants arse from 2 feet . So why aren’t we at least trying Simpson from the bench ?
I’m certainly not a “KD for manager”, he’s not good enough . But he’s an excellent coach and that’ll be where he ends up I suspect . But I feel he has a point about the pathway to first team gif our youngsters. If this Club had no intention of ever using them why have an academy . You can’t cherry pick an” appropriate time to adopt” that pathway. Eg we need to get promoted first . You either believe in the academy ethos of you don’t .
Any regards Bakinson ( your original point), I’d agree he’s improving with more games , and I’d sign him for next season . Thompson ? No thanks , he doesn’t get forward enough which is exactly what McKenna wants . Which youngster does that ? Bailey Clements! |
I'm not sure the Clements the best example. but think point is that the 23s are scoring goals for fun, winning week in and week out and still with that no one can get an opportunity.
Someone like Simpson, or Chirewa, or Humphreys need for their development for the next step to be available to them - but because of how many signings we made last summer there are just too many blockers.
McKenna has reduced the squad size and now we see things like Baggott on bench last week and Humphreys as 19th man - at the start of January that would have been Nsiala on the bench and Harper as 19th man |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 11:32 - Mar 25 with 2543 views | ArnieM |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 10:23 - Mar 25 by itfcjoe |
I'm not sure the Clements the best example. but think point is that the 23s are scoring goals for fun, winning week in and week out and still with that no one can get an opportunity.
Someone like Simpson, or Chirewa, or Humphreys need for their development for the next step to be available to them - but because of how many signings we made last summer there are just too many blockers.
McKenna has reduced the squad size and now we see things like Baggott on bench last week and Humphreys as 19th man - at the start of January that would have been Nsiala on the bench and Harper as 19th man |
Hmm yes you’re probably right there. I do think we’ve got some very good youngsters, but KD seems ade ent that something’s not sitting easily with him regarding “his” U23’s with the Clubs new vision….we’ll get a better idea under McKenna in his first full season and pre season signings I guess. But we don’t seem to get very many come through the ranks and stay in that senior squad do we, even prior to the take over.
Put it this way, if you were one of those highly rated U23’s would you see yourself having a future at Town? I’m not sure I would…..I | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 12:31 - Mar 25 with 2466 views | TractorCam |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 07:48 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
I feel Clements is the better prospect . He defends well , gets forward and crosses into the box very well. Thompson might do his defensive duties ok but he offers very little in that wing back role. A role that McKenna wants on that left side. We’ll see what happens over the summer. I can see us signing Bakinson but I’m not so sure about Thompson. |
You're right, we won't sign Thompson, he's on the path to be a first team player for Brentford. |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 12:47 - Mar 25 with 2444 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 12:31 - Mar 25 by TractorCam |
You're right, we won't sign Thompson, he's on the path to be a first team player for Brentford. |
Still think penney can be nurtured into a burns type wingback. He's got the ability. | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:29 - Mar 25 with 2381 views | ArnieM |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 12:31 - Mar 25 by TractorCam |
You're right, we won't sign Thompson, he's on the path to be a first team player for Brentford. |
So he essential blocks our own youngsters progression….. | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:31 - Mar 25 with 2373 views | ArnieM |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 12:47 - Mar 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Still think penney can be nurtured into a burns type wingback. He's got the ability. |
He cant defend very well though ! | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:39 - Mar 25 with 2356 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:31 - Mar 25 by ArnieM |
He cant defend very well though ! |
Neither did Cresswell
Not saying Penney is a Cresswell. Far from it. But there's still potential for him to be worked with. | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 14:34 - Mar 25 with 2319 views | BiGDonnie |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:39 - Mar 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Neither did Cresswell
Not saying Penney is a Cresswell. Far from it. But there's still potential for him to be worked with. |
You think Cresswell couldn't defend? |  |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 14:45 - Mar 25 with 2300 views | itfcjoe |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:39 - Mar 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Neither did Cresswell
Not saying Penney is a Cresswell. Far from it. But there's still potential for him to be worked with. |
Cresswell was a superb defender | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 14:58 - Mar 25 with 2259 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 14:34 - Mar 25 by BiGDonnie |
You think Cresswell couldn't defend? |
When he first joined he was OK at the back, nothing amazing and was his weakness. Similar weaknesses to Penney but not as weak with allowing crosses to be made and positioning etc, It however didn't take to long with games behind him to get better and better and he became the player he is today.
My point being is it was something he needed to work on and I think Penney can be worked with. [Post edited 25 Mar 2022 15:00]
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 15:00 - Mar 25 with 2237 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 14:45 - Mar 25 by itfcjoe |
Cresswell was a superb defender |
By the time he left he was yes. | |
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| Bakinson is just 23 on 15:11 - Mar 25 with 2217 views | BarcaBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 13:39 - Mar 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Neither did Cresswell
Not saying Penney is a Cresswell. Far from it. But there's still potential for him to be worked with. |
Penney will never be anything like Burms and any future comparison with him or Cresswell is plain daft. He has shown nothing to suggest he'll get anywhere near either player. McKenna is good but he's not going to be changing water into wine or feeding the five thousand any time soon. |  | | |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 15:22 - Mar 25 with 2193 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson is just 23 on 15:11 - Mar 25 by BarcaBlue |
Penney will never be anything like Burms and any future comparison with him or Cresswell is plain daft. He has shown nothing to suggest he'll get anywhere near either player. McKenna is good but he's not going to be changing water into wine or feeding the five thousand any time soon. |
Never said he would be as good as burns. I said a Burns type wingback. Key word Barca.. type.
Same with Creswell. Made it clear I don't expect him to get to that level either.
But we'll done missing those crucial details just to counter a post of mine. | |
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