| Sure we can all agree with this copper 17:27 - Jun 30 with 2018 views | bluelagos |
Knows his stuff :-)
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:31 - Jun 30 with 1606 views | jeera |
I'm always shocked that a cyclist has as many as three friends. |  |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:32 - Jun 30 with 1586 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:31 - Jun 30 by jeera |
I'm always shocked that a cyclist has as many as three friends. |
Three friends who are still alive! |  |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:33 - Jun 30 with 1573 views | jeera |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:32 - Jun 30 by NthQldITFC |
Three friends who are still alive! |
I thought it was funny anyway. | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:36 - Jun 30 with 1542 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:33 - Jun 30 by jeera |
I thought it was funny anyway. |
So did I, sorry!  | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:40 - Jun 30 with 1484 views | BrianTablet |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:36 - Jun 30 by jeera |
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Jesting no longer allowed. [Post edited 30 Jun 2022 17:53]
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Ah, the hilarious jokes about RTAs and people dying on the roads.
Surely we're better than this? |  |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:41 - Jun 30 with 1480 views | ZXBlue |
I follow his logic, but in many instances its nonsense.
It makes it much harder to overtake because they are taking up more space. Furthermore, they do it so they can natter to each other, very often. Which is not safe at all. |  | | |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:43 - Jun 30 with 1469 views | jeera |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:40 - Jun 30 by BrianTablet |
Ah, the hilarious jokes about RTAs and people dying on the roads.
Surely we're better than this? |
Sooner or later BT we have to remember that generally we're mates on here, be it virtual or otherwise, and that it's sometimes ok to take a friendly pop in jest at each other.
As always, context is everything.
I'm surprised you'd think anything else tbh. | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:44 - Jun 30 with 1459 views | BlueBadger |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:41 - Jun 30 by ZXBlue |
I follow his logic, but in many instances its nonsense.
It makes it much harder to overtake because they are taking up more space. Furthermore, they do it so they can natter to each other, very often. Which is not safe at all. |
Making it harder to overtake is kind of the point. Discourages idiots from dangerous manoeuvres. |  |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:48 - Jun 30 with 1435 views | jeera |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:44 - Jun 30 by BlueBadger |
Making it harder to overtake is kind of the point. Discourages idiots from dangerous manoeuvres. |
I'll sit for age behind a group of cyclists and have done a hundred times.
I do get irritated that other people think I need to be lectured about something I already do.
But I also appreciate other people may need a reminder from time to time.
I spent my years growing up on 2 wheels and know how vulnerable it can feel. That's probably why I am generally respectful I suppose, because I know from my own experience. | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:57 - Jun 30 with 1374 views | bluelagos |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:31 - Jun 30 by jeera |
I'm always shocked that a cyclist has as many as three friends. |
That's three more than the copper's got  | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:57 - Jun 30 with 1373 views | ZXBlue |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:44 - Jun 30 by BlueBadger |
Making it harder to overtake is kind of the point. Discourages idiots from dangerous manoeuvres. |
And creates queues, leading to impatient drivers and more dangerous manouvres, whilst inconveniency perfectly reasonable drivers. | | | |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:00 - Jun 30 with 1365 views | swede |
I've no problem with three or four, but earlier this week I followed a group of twelve riding three abreast on country roads for over two miles. It wasn't until they turned off left that one of them looked behind to see if they were holding anyone up.
I am a fairly patient person who does not take stupid risks, but I can see how accidents can easily happen with this behaviour. | | | |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:11 - Jun 30 with 1308 views | BrianTablet |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:43 - Jun 30 by jeera |
Sooner or later BT we have to remember that generally we're mates on here, be it virtual or otherwise, and that it's sometimes ok to take a friendly pop in jest at each other.
As always, context is everything.
I'm surprised you'd think anything else tbh. |
I think I'm just overwhelmed by where 2022 is going.
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:20 - Jun 30 with 1277 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:57 - Jun 30 by ZXBlue |
And creates queues, leading to impatient drivers and more dangerous manouvres, whilst inconveniency perfectly reasonable drivers. |
No queues in this case, just a driver not paying attention:
https://road.cc/content/news/tt-rider-killed-after-being-struck-van-driver-29398
Like many in the local (Ipswich and District) time trial community I knew Cheryl and Chris - I rode a time trial on that same stretch of road on the day before - we all know the risks we take every time we get on a bike, whether it's a social ride, training or racing - there would have been signs out warning drivers that a cycle race was in progress (that will obviously be reviewed as to whether they were sufficient, as they are after every incident), and all cyclists in TTs have to have bright front and rear lights. |  |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:32 - Jun 30 with 1247 views | solomon |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:41 - Jun 30 by ZXBlue |
I follow his logic, but in many instances its nonsense.
It makes it much harder to overtake because they are taking up more space. Furthermore, they do it so they can natter to each other, very often. Which is not safe at all. |
Giving a cyclist space is just the same as giving any other road user enough space, us EV drivers have to give them really decent room as they can’t hear us until we are past, I’ve had some really surprised looks from cyclists I’ve passed. |  | | |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:36 - Jun 30 with 1227 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:57 - Jun 30 by ZXBlue |
And creates queues, leading to impatient drivers and more dangerous manouvres, whilst inconveniency perfectly reasonable drivers. |
Depends on the width of the road. A lot of cyclists prefer relatively quiet roads, often where it wouldn’t be safe to pass even a single cyclist if someone was coming the other way. In those circumstances it’s undeniably better for all if cyclists double up.
Wider roads where you can overtake a single cyclist even if there is oncoming traffic is another matter. That could lead to delays if they’re riding abreast.
Still, if you have to wait to pass it’s not the end of the world is it? Chances are it’d be a lot quicker than waiting at a red light, for example. Takes no effort either: the car does all the work.
And besides, at the end of the day it’s legal and perfectly allowable. |  |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:40 - Jun 30 with 1207 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:31 - Jun 30 by jeera |
I'm always shocked that a cyclist has as many as three friends. |
4 uppies to this thread, so presumably it can happen. Although I’m not convinced BL is a cyclist - he seems to spend more time on his arse on the road than on his saddle! | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:57 - Jun 30 with 1174 views | bluelagos |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:40 - Jun 30 by Swansea_Blue |
4 uppies to this thread, so presumably it can happen. Although I’m not convinced BL is a cyclist - he seems to spend more time on his arse on the road than on his saddle! |
Oi.
My 7 crashes (lockdown year) have not been repeated since I'll have you know.
Getting back into it - did first road cycle ride in ages this week - the hills out of Dedham seem a lot steeper! | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 19:02 - Jun 30 with 1158 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:57 - Jun 30 by bluelagos |
Oi.
My 7 crashes (lockdown year) have not been repeated since I'll have you know.
Getting back into it - did first road cycle ride in ages this week - the hills out of Dedham seem a lot steeper! |
Good luck with getting back into it. I cycled to work a couple of weeks ago (20 mile round trip). I couldn’t sit down on the trip home and walked like John Wayne for 3 days after. Plucking up the courage to have another go next week; I’ve never found it as tough to get going again as this. | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 19:29 - Jun 30 with 1094 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:57 - Jun 30 by bluelagos |
Oi.
My 7 crashes (lockdown year) have not been repeated since I'll have you know.
Getting back into it - did first road cycle ride in ages this week - the hills out of Dedham seem a lot steeper! |
Oh those hills have ...
https://www.dedhamparishcouncil.co.uk/parish-council/advisory-groups
Group 3 - Planning & Traffic
"The main role of this group is to review hilling applications within the village and environs, supporting residents' concerns in particular when it is appropriate to do so. With the perceived increase in traffic in recent years due to new residential developments in surrounding areas , emphasis will also be placed on heightening surrounding hills to take a more mountainous approach to traffic management to reduce the impact on Dedham."
Edit: I may have been a bit fast and loose with the group role. [Post edited 30 Jun 2022 19:35]
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 19:30 - Jun 30 with 1090 views | bluelagos |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 19:02 - Jun 30 by Swansea_Blue |
Good luck with getting back into it. I cycled to work a couple of weeks ago (20 mile round trip). I couldn’t sit down on the trip home and walked like John Wayne for 3 days after. Plucking up the courage to have another go next week; I’ve never found it as tough to get going again as this. |
20 miles is what I did this week. Legs felt fine next day tbf - just hard work whilst doing it.
Mate is up for a weekly ride which should help... | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 19:35 - Jun 30 with 1069 views | jontysnut |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:36 - Jun 30 by Swansea_Blue |
Depends on the width of the road. A lot of cyclists prefer relatively quiet roads, often where it wouldn’t be safe to pass even a single cyclist if someone was coming the other way. In those circumstances it’s undeniably better for all if cyclists double up.
Wider roads where you can overtake a single cyclist even if there is oncoming traffic is another matter. That could lead to delays if they’re riding abreast.
Still, if you have to wait to pass it’s not the end of the world is it? Chances are it’d be a lot quicker than waiting at a red light, for example. Takes no effort either: the car does all the work.
And besides, at the end of the day it’s legal and perfectly allowable. |
I agree with all that and it's give and take - where there's a clear road ahead it doesn't take a lot of effort to drop into file. 'Oil up' as my lycra clad mate would say. |  | | |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 20:00 - Jun 30 with 1016 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 17:41 - Jun 30 by ZXBlue |
I follow his logic, but in many instances its nonsense.
It makes it much harder to overtake because they are taking up more space. Furthermore, they do it so they can natter to each other, very often. Which is not safe at all. |
When you're in single file and tucked in on a two lane road, some motorists think it's OK to squeeze past a vulnerable cyclist with traffic coming in the other direction. It is fkn terrifying sometimes, so I always pull out towards the middle of the lane I am in when I hear a car coming from behind.
A motor vehicle driver should be able to use all of the opposite lane to get past a cyclist safely, so two cyclists abreast taking up perhaps half of a lane should not be any different for overtaking than a single cyclist, but any group will only be half as long so actually quicker to get round safely, as the rozzer says. | |
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| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 20:16 - Jun 30 with 979 views | jeera |
| Sure we can all agree with this copper on 18:11 - Jun 30 by BrianTablet |
I think I'm just overwhelmed by where 2022 is going.
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Hmph.
Take no notice BT, I've just had a sh1tty day.
Wherever '22 ends up going I just hope it knows when to use stabilisers. | |
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