| Will Keane 09:41 - Sep 3 with 3014 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Can't recall seeing a story about it, but Phil said on the BM podcast that we were in for Will Keane on deadline day.
Not sure how likely it was. |  |
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| Will Keane on 09:43 - Sep 3 with 2994 views | PhilTWTD |
Not on deadline day, it became clear before that he wasn't coming. Is signing a new deal at Wigan. Was one of our two top targets along with Hirst. |  | | |
| Will Keane on 09:45 - Sep 3 with 2968 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Will Keane on 09:43 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD |
Not on deadline day, it became clear before that he wasn't coming. Is signing a new deal at Wigan. Was one of our two top targets along with Hirst. |
Given his record at Wigan since he left us, would have been a perfect signing.
Also think Ahadme is an exciting signing too though. | |
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| Will Keane on 09:48 - Sep 3 with 2941 views | PhilTWTD |
| Will Keane on 09:45 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Given his record at Wigan since he left us, would have been a perfect signing.
Also think Ahadme is an exciting signing too though. |
Indeed, would have been ideal. Was disappointed to see him leave when he went. Wonder if they'd have offered him something if his contract hadn't been up in the Covid summer. | | | |
| Will Keane on 09:49 - Sep 3 with 2911 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Will Keane on 09:48 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, would have been ideal. Was disappointed to see him leave when he went. Wonder if they'd have offered him something if his contract hadn't been up in the Covid summer. |
Also another one of those who just kept getting injured while he was with us, which would have impacted on the decision at the time I guess. | |
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| Will Keane on 09:52 - Sep 3 with 2880 views | PhilTWTD |
| Will Keane on 09:49 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Also another one of those who just kept getting injured while he was with us, which would have impacted on the decision at the time I guess. |
Yes, I'm sure it will have done. Has made 80 starts and 10 sub appearances in just under two years since leaving us. | | | |
| Will Keane on 09:58 - Sep 3 with 2834 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Will Keane on 09:52 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD |
Yes, I'm sure it will have done. Has made 80 starts and 10 sub appearances in just under two years since leaving us. |
Like McGoldrick and Webster!! | |
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| Will Keane on 10:07 - Sep 3 with 2768 views | Keno |
| Will Keane on 09:48 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, would have been ideal. Was disappointed to see him leave when he went. Wonder if they'd have offered him something if his contract hadn't been up in the Covid summer. |
I'm guessing we also decided that Chappers and Harnie were better so didnt follow up on Ronaldo |  |
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| Will Keane on 10:25 - Sep 3 with 2697 views | Coastalblue |
I really liked Keane when he was here, thought he looked like there was a really good player in there if he could just get going with a decent run of games. Would have loved for him to stay. |  |
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| Will Keane on 10:30 - Sep 3 with 2666 views | Dyland |
Boils my piss. The ticket price doesn't guarantee wins or pretty football but doing the best you can to keep the footballers fit really is a minimum. Well done Evans you clown. |  |
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| Will Keane on 10:37 - Sep 3 with 2607 views | HighgateBlue |
| Will Keane on 10:30 - Sep 3 by Dyland |
Boils my piss. The ticket price doesn't guarantee wins or pretty football but doing the best you can to keep the footballers fit really is a minimum. Well done Evans you clown. |
It would be interesting to know if you have a genuine and considered theory about why certain players were injured under Evans' tenure. I'm not sure that just calling Evans a clown and implying that it's his fault that there were injuries is a very convincing argument.
Doubtless there are some who would, without explanation, blame Evans' legacy for Aluko's injury too... |  | | |
| Will Keane on 10:41 - Sep 3 with 2568 views | chicoazul |
| Will Keane on 10:37 - Sep 3 by HighgateBlue |
It would be interesting to know if you have a genuine and considered theory about why certain players were injured under Evans' tenure. I'm not sure that just calling Evans a clown and implying that it's his fault that there were injuries is a very convincing argument.
Doubtless there are some who would, without explanation, blame Evans' legacy for Aluko's injury too... |
Evans spent zero money on sports science and rehab. Hurst, a man used to working at low levels, was so amazed by what he found he had to get him to pay for a new gym as what they had was so awful. |  |
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| Will Keane on 10:46 - Sep 3 with 2537 views | Churchman |
| Will Keane on 09:52 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD |
Yes, I'm sure it will have done. Has made 80 starts and 10 sub appearances in just under two years since leaving us. |
Funny how players’ fitness improved after leaving this club. McGoldrick was a classic for this. Max appearances for us in any season 31. Just 22 in his final year. Joins Sheffield Utd and boom! 45 games in his first season then 63 in next two seasons dealing with the rigours of the PL, all at an age where you’d expect an injury prone player to play less, not more.
Maybe the same applied with Keane. A bit of professional care and management and 80 starts follow. For me, it says a lot about how badly we looked after players during that time. Hopefully we’ve moved on from the 1950s bucket and sponge, smartprice plasters Conference level approach. |  | | |
| Will Keane on 11:52 - Sep 3 with 2334 views | RegencyBlue |
| Will Keane on 10:37 - Sep 3 by HighgateBlue |
It would be interesting to know if you have a genuine and considered theory about why certain players were injured under Evans' tenure. I'm not sure that just calling Evans a clown and implying that it's his fault that there were injuries is a very convincing argument.
Doubtless there are some who would, without explanation, blame Evans' legacy for Aluko's injury too... |
Evans ran this club into the ground, on and off he pitch, and the treatment room was by all accounts no exception! |  | | |
| Will Keane on 12:23 - Sep 3 with 2218 views | PhilTWTD |
| Will Keane on 10:46 - Sep 3 by Churchman |
Funny how players’ fitness improved after leaving this club. McGoldrick was a classic for this. Max appearances for us in any season 31. Just 22 in his final year. Joins Sheffield Utd and boom! 45 games in his first season then 63 in next two seasons dealing with the rigours of the PL, all at an age where you’d expect an injury prone player to play less, not more.
Maybe the same applied with Keane. A bit of professional care and management and 80 starts follow. For me, it says a lot about how badly we looked after players during that time. Hopefully we’ve moved on from the 1950s bucket and sponge, smartprice plasters Conference level approach. |
Think in some instances players were played too much too quickly after injuries. Not sure that would have been the advice from the medical staff. | | | |
| Will Keane on 13:45 - Sep 3 with 1926 views | Churchman |
| Will Keane on 12:23 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD |
Think in some instances players were played too much too quickly after injuries. Not sure that would have been the advice from the medical staff. |
Whether it was the medical staff (or person with a first aid certificate), coaches, management or Tessie the tea lady, let’s hope the club has now moved Ito the 2020s with this aspect now. | | | |
| Will Keane on 14:02 - Sep 3 with 1861 views | cbower |
| Will Keane on 10:46 - Sep 3 by Churchman |
Funny how players’ fitness improved after leaving this club. McGoldrick was a classic for this. Max appearances for us in any season 31. Just 22 in his final year. Joins Sheffield Utd and boom! 45 games in his first season then 63 in next two seasons dealing with the rigours of the PL, all at an age where you’d expect an injury prone player to play less, not more.
Maybe the same applied with Keane. A bit of professional care and management and 80 starts follow. For me, it says a lot about how badly we looked after players during that time. Hopefully we’ve moved on from the 1950s bucket and sponge, smartprice plasters Conference level approach. |
It's clear that sports science was underfunded under Evans and no doubt this contributed negatively in terms of player fitness and rehab. However, until the last two seasons, Will Keane had spent almost his entire career recovering from injury, a pattern estabished long before he came to us. Emyr Huws is another example of this. |  |
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| Will Keane on 14:53 - Sep 3 with 1714 views | Dyland |
| Will Keane on 10:37 - Sep 3 by HighgateBlue |
It would be interesting to know if you have a genuine and considered theory about why certain players were injured under Evans' tenure. I'm not sure that just calling Evans a clown and implying that it's his fault that there were injuries is a very convincing argument.
Doubtless there are some who would, without explanation, blame Evans' legacy for Aluko's injury too... |
Considered theory? He spent no money on sports rehab etc. There's no theory needed here, and are you really saying it's coincidence or luck Webster, Didz and Keane (off the top of my head) stopped being injuries after leaving? There are certain area where I can mitigate criticism of Evans. Ensuring your (good) players are as able as possible to play as many games as possible aint one of them.
"Doubtless there are some who would, without explanation, blame Evans' legacy for Aluko's injury too... "
That's a silly straw man.... though knowing some of the twits here you may be right! | |
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| Will Keane on 15:05 - Sep 3 with 1668 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Will Keane on 09:45 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Given his record at Wigan since he left us, would have been a perfect signing.
Also think Ahadme is an exciting signing too though. |
Does look very like we have a number of potential targets that we have identified and move on when it is clear we can't get the first choice. In the past it felt like we either chased too hard and paid well over the odds or panicked and signed someone else fairly much at random. |  |
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| Will Keane on 19:31 - Sep 6 with 1308 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Will Keane on 10:46 - Sep 3 by Churchman |
Funny how players’ fitness improved after leaving this club. McGoldrick was a classic for this. Max appearances for us in any season 31. Just 22 in his final year. Joins Sheffield Utd and boom! 45 games in his first season then 63 in next two seasons dealing with the rigours of the PL, all at an age where you’d expect an injury prone player to play less, not more.
Maybe the same applied with Keane. A bit of professional care and management and 80 starts follow. For me, it says a lot about how badly we looked after players during that time. Hopefully we’ve moved on from the 1950s bucket and sponge, smartprice plasters Conference level approach. |
But then you have players liked Chambers and Murphy who played an absurd amount of games whilst here without issue. |  |
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| Will Keane on 19:38 - Sep 6 with 1270 views | LeoMuff |
| Will Keane on 14:53 - Sep 3 by Dyland |
Considered theory? He spent no money on sports rehab etc. There's no theory needed here, and are you really saying it's coincidence or luck Webster, Didz and Keane (off the top of my head) stopped being injuries after leaving? There are certain area where I can mitigate criticism of Evans. Ensuring your (good) players are as able as possible to play as many games as possible aint one of them.
"Doubtless there are some who would, without explanation, blame Evans' legacy for Aluko's injury too... "
That's a silly straw man.... though knowing some of the twits here you may be right! |
He also didn’t fund a proper squad, we had lots of filler which were a significant down grade on the first 11, hence players were played until they broke, rushed back or playing through niggles. The difference is stark compared to the current set up where players are eased back in and rested with a niggle. |  |
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| Will Keane on 19:39 - Sep 6 with 1259 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Will Keane on 19:31 - Sep 6 by JammyDodgerrr |
But then you have players liked Chambers and Murphy who played an absurd amount of games whilst here without issue. |
It seemed to mostly be the creative engines didn't it? McG, Bishop, Fraser...then those injury-prone we couldn't seem to rehabilitate, Joniesta, Dozzell... |  | | |
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