| The latest national polarised argument. 19:15 - Sep 16 with 1763 views | FromReuserWithLove |
Royalist or republican. NOTHING in-between. Royalists taking some bizarre moral high ground, pushing their pro royal propaganda. Republicans taking some stubborn moral high ground, pushing their anti royal propaganda. The Queen was a faultless all loving guiding superhuman. The Queen was a pleb hating lizard. NO debate can be had.
MADNESS.
Personally, I find the whole concept of a royal family ludicrous but appreciate the Queen was exceptional. I genuinely do not understand why people are so subservient to other human beings but each to their own. Live and let live. |  | | |  |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:28 - Sep 16 with 1710 views | bungaytractor |
Im very proud of our queen but isnt republican an american party not a uk one? Dont know what it has to do with the uk, conservative or labour |  | | |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:36 - Sep 16 with 1683 views | BlackShuckBlue |
There doesn't seem to have been much of that on here beyond a couple of people getting upset about Liverpool fans and a few others (correctly if you ask me) being upset that a royal death is being used to ease a sex offender back into the fold.
Most responses seem to have fallen someone in the middle ground, republican or monarchist. [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 19:39]
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:40 - Sep 16 with 1662 views | ghostofescobar |
Those views are held by a noisy minority on the socials and some of the press. I am very open that I am ambivalent about the Royal Family: I don’t really care either way. But when I provide this view, to either Royalists or Republicans, they have, to a man and woman, been civil and accepting. No arguments, no anger, just a bit of good old fashioned civility. Maybe I am lucky and just have nice people around me. |  |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:41 - Sep 16 with 1672 views | jeera |
Well, not really.
"Personally, I find the whole concept of a royal family ludicrous but appreciate the Queen was exceptional. I genuinely do not understand why people are so subservient to other humans" is probably where most of us stand.
I've held the same stance for as long as I can remember and have known many people who see it the same way: The Queen has loyally served the nation and kept the promise she made as a young lady in her mid-twenties. Times were very different and the need was there.
It has been right to recognise her service and to respect her for the time she was monarch, which is why I've felt angry at those celebrating her passing. It seems some people cannot separate their own inherited hatred and what she represented.
The amount of posts I've seen on SM banging on about colonialism as though she was somehow personally responsible for events that took place before her own birth...
I don't know whether these people are just sh1tstirring or just immensely stupid.
No, the concept of a Royal Family doesn't make any sense. It's just weird to choose some people to revere. Maybe it's just an alternative to Love Island or those pop shows where a talent gets chosen to be super-rich and famous and have a career of being adored without actually doing much to get there.. Maybe it's a need for some people to have others to look up to.
And in my opinion it should have been the end of the line for the monarchy now. Now it just feels forced and false, as though it is tradition for the sake of tradition.
The prominent members could have continued in paid ambassadorial roles if they so wished, I could see no problem with that. It would be equally mad and insensitive to proclaim these people who have existed in the public eye as no longer relevant in any capacity. |  |
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| Agreed. (n/t) on 19:47 - Sep 16 with 1629 views | Bloots |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:41 - Sep 16 by jeera |
Well, not really.
"Personally, I find the whole concept of a royal family ludicrous but appreciate the Queen was exceptional. I genuinely do not understand why people are so subservient to other humans" is probably where most of us stand.
I've held the same stance for as long as I can remember and have known many people who see it the same way: The Queen has loyally served the nation and kept the promise she made as a young lady in her mid-twenties. Times were very different and the need was there.
It has been right to recognise her service and to respect her for the time she was monarch, which is why I've felt angry at those celebrating her passing. It seems some people cannot separate their own inherited hatred and what she represented.
The amount of posts I've seen on SM banging on about colonialism as though she was somehow personally responsible for events that took place before her own birth...
I don't know whether these people are just sh1tstirring or just immensely stupid.
No, the concept of a Royal Family doesn't make any sense. It's just weird to choose some people to revere. Maybe it's just an alternative to Love Island or those pop shows where a talent gets chosen to be super-rich and famous and have a career of being adored without actually doing much to get there.. Maybe it's a need for some people to have others to look up to.
And in my opinion it should have been the end of the line for the monarchy now. Now it just feels forced and false, as though it is tradition for the sake of tradition.
The prominent members could have continued in paid ambassadorial roles if they so wished, I could see no problem with that. It would be equally mad and insensitive to proclaim these people who have existed in the public eye as no longer relevant in any capacity. |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:44 - Sep 16 with 1530 views | factual_blue |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:41 - Sep 16 by jeera |
Well, not really.
"Personally, I find the whole concept of a royal family ludicrous but appreciate the Queen was exceptional. I genuinely do not understand why people are so subservient to other humans" is probably where most of us stand.
I've held the same stance for as long as I can remember and have known many people who see it the same way: The Queen has loyally served the nation and kept the promise she made as a young lady in her mid-twenties. Times were very different and the need was there.
It has been right to recognise her service and to respect her for the time she was monarch, which is why I've felt angry at those celebrating her passing. It seems some people cannot separate their own inherited hatred and what she represented.
The amount of posts I've seen on SM banging on about colonialism as though she was somehow personally responsible for events that took place before her own birth...
I don't know whether these people are just sh1tstirring or just immensely stupid.
No, the concept of a Royal Family doesn't make any sense. It's just weird to choose some people to revere. Maybe it's just an alternative to Love Island or those pop shows where a talent gets chosen to be super-rich and famous and have a career of being adored without actually doing much to get there.. Maybe it's a need for some people to have others to look up to.
And in my opinion it should have been the end of the line for the monarchy now. Now it just feels forced and false, as though it is tradition for the sake of tradition.
The prominent members could have continued in paid ambassadorial roles if they so wished, I could see no problem with that. It would be equally mad and insensitive to proclaim these people who have existed in the public eye as no longer relevant in any capacity. |
As I said the other day, better that our actual Head of State comes from a family of slightly dotty people. At least you know what you're getting. And they aren't going to start clawing back actual power into their own hands.
A boris, trump or farage as President, on the other hand.. |  |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:45 - Sep 16 with 1523 views | Coastalblue |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:41 - Sep 16 by jeera |
Well, not really.
"Personally, I find the whole concept of a royal family ludicrous but appreciate the Queen was exceptional. I genuinely do not understand why people are so subservient to other humans" is probably where most of us stand.
I've held the same stance for as long as I can remember and have known many people who see it the same way: The Queen has loyally served the nation and kept the promise she made as a young lady in her mid-twenties. Times were very different and the need was there.
It has been right to recognise her service and to respect her for the time she was monarch, which is why I've felt angry at those celebrating her passing. It seems some people cannot separate their own inherited hatred and what she represented.
The amount of posts I've seen on SM banging on about colonialism as though she was somehow personally responsible for events that took place before her own birth...
I don't know whether these people are just sh1tstirring or just immensely stupid.
No, the concept of a Royal Family doesn't make any sense. It's just weird to choose some people to revere. Maybe it's just an alternative to Love Island or those pop shows where a talent gets chosen to be super-rich and famous and have a career of being adored without actually doing much to get there.. Maybe it's a need for some people to have others to look up to.
And in my opinion it should have been the end of the line for the monarchy now. Now it just feels forced and false, as though it is tradition for the sake of tradition.
The prominent members could have continued in paid ambassadorial roles if they so wished, I could see no problem with that. It would be equally mad and insensitive to proclaim these people who have existed in the public eye as no longer relevant in any capacity. |
That's a very good post, you sure this is the board for you? |  |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:48 - Sep 16 with 1518 views | jeera |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:44 - Sep 16 by factual_blue |
As I said the other day, better that our actual Head of State comes from a family of slightly dotty people. At least you know what you're getting. And they aren't going to start clawing back actual power into their own hands.
A boris, trump or farage as President, on the other hand.. |
In the kind of scenario I am talking about those characters would not get anywhere near a position of responsibility so your point is void.
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:58 - Sep 16 with 1495 views | jeera |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:45 - Sep 16 by Coastalblue |
That's a very good post, you sure this is the board for you? |
Don't panic.
I'll make up for it with something typically daft soon enough.
I'm all about balance. | |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 21:05 - Sep 16 with 1476 views | belgablue |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:41 - Sep 16 by jeera |
Well, not really.
"Personally, I find the whole concept of a royal family ludicrous but appreciate the Queen was exceptional. I genuinely do not understand why people are so subservient to other humans" is probably where most of us stand.
I've held the same stance for as long as I can remember and have known many people who see it the same way: The Queen has loyally served the nation and kept the promise she made as a young lady in her mid-twenties. Times were very different and the need was there.
It has been right to recognise her service and to respect her for the time she was monarch, which is why I've felt angry at those celebrating her passing. It seems some people cannot separate their own inherited hatred and what she represented.
The amount of posts I've seen on SM banging on about colonialism as though she was somehow personally responsible for events that took place before her own birth...
I don't know whether these people are just sh1tstirring or just immensely stupid.
No, the concept of a Royal Family doesn't make any sense. It's just weird to choose some people to revere. Maybe it's just an alternative to Love Island or those pop shows where a talent gets chosen to be super-rich and famous and have a career of being adored without actually doing much to get there.. Maybe it's a need for some people to have others to look up to.
And in my opinion it should have been the end of the line for the monarchy now. Now it just feels forced and false, as though it is tradition for the sake of tradition.
The prominent members could have continued in paid ambassadorial roles if they so wished, I could see no problem with that. It would be equally mad and insensitive to proclaim these people who have existed in the public eye as no longer relevant in any capacity. |
Well said |  |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 21:07 - Sep 16 with 1473 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 20:44 - Sep 16 by factual_blue |
As I said the other day, better that our actual Head of State comes from a family of slightly dotty people. At least you know what you're getting. And they aren't going to start clawing back actual power into their own hands.
A boris, trump or farage as President, on the other hand.. |
NOTA |  |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 21:29 - Sep 16 with 1415 views | Seablu |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:28 - Sep 16 by bungaytractor |
Im very proud of our queen but isnt republican an american party not a uk one? Dont know what it has to do with the uk, conservative or labour |
You’re either thick as mince or on a wind up.
Your standard of English has me leaning towards the former…. [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 21:32]
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 22:16 - Sep 16 with 1301 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
There has been plenty of moderate comment on the question of whether we would prefer a republic or a monarchy.
I am firmly on the republican side of the debate but can't see any possibility of the monarchy being abolished in my lifetime.
Should that miracle happen, however, and if Mr Charles Windsor were to put himself up for election I could well vote for him given his environmentalist credentials.
Perhaps it is a bit ironic that an elected President Windsor could push the green issues which are close to his heart whereas King Charles will be obliged to remain quiet about them |  |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 22:45 - Sep 16 with 1245 views | Swansea_Blue |
For sure. You’re either one of us or one of them. It’s a problem massively exacerbated by social media (but was there before as well).
We need more listening, empathy, understanding and respectful conversations. Looking at the social media side, I think we’re all still learning how to use it - and it could take years yet. I’m not sure how you’d fix it, as the division is a side effect really. Social media functions as it’s supposed to by bringing people together and by waving loads of adverts under our noses to make money for the platform owners. So the tech isn’t necessarily the problem, it’s how we’re using it. Maybe people are just a-holes and will always look to have a common enemy? [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 23:51]
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 01:46 - Sep 17 with 1129 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
I've been fairly ambivalent most of my life, but have been a confirmed Republican since the Queen unlawfully prorogued Parliament.at the request on the Prime Minister, but against the express wishes of the Speaker.
However I have a huge amount of respect and admiration for the manner in which Queen Elizabeth II carried herself, and carried out her duties (in the main).
It's possible to disagree with the way that society is ordered and yet still have respect for someone leading within that system. | | | |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 09:49 - Sep 17 with 919 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 19:28 - Sep 16 by bungaytractor |
Im very proud of our queen but isnt republican an american party not a uk one? Dont know what it has to do with the uk, conservative or labour |
You could well become my new favourite poster/creation. I liked your delivery of the Philip Schofield quip too, even if it was a bit close to the wire. | |
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 10:08 - Sep 17 with 896 views | thebooks |
Ah, the old anyone holding an opinion is crazy argument.
I’m a republican. Have absolutely no opinion on the queen’s character or morals. As far as I’m aware, she wasn’t “evil”, nor was she “exceptional”. Her blandness was probably her defining characteristic.
I do have an opinion on the head of state being an hereditary position, and how the royal family has interefered in politics in order to serve its own financial ends. Or how prince Charles has influenced housing in this country. Or how they don’t pay inheritance tax, and income tax only voluntarily. Or how the state media has put North Korea to shame. Or how we as country perform these pompous, absurd rituals that try and pretend the people involved are somehow “special”, while many of us can’t afford to heat or feed our families. Or that an aristocracy even still exists. |  | | |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 11:42 - Sep 17 with 803 views | Ryorry |
I've genuinely never met anyone who feels or is "subserviant" to the monarchy.
I'm moderately pro-monarchy due to fear of an elected President Johnson or Trump, but would like to now see a slimmed-down UK version - I believe the Dutch-style has been mentioned on here as an example. [Post edited 17 Sep 2022 11:49]
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| The latest national polarised argument. on 11:48 - Sep 17 with 788 views | chicoazul |
| The latest national polarised argument. on 01:46 - Sep 17 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I've been fairly ambivalent most of my life, but have been a confirmed Republican since the Queen unlawfully prorogued Parliament.at the request on the Prime Minister, but against the express wishes of the Speaker.
However I have a huge amount of respect and admiration for the manner in which Queen Elizabeth II carried herself, and carried out her duties (in the main).
It's possible to disagree with the way that society is ordered and yet still have respect for someone leading within that system. |
Do you think the Monarch should *not* do what our elected representatives ask them to do? Or only when it’s something you disagree with. [Post edited 17 Sep 2022 11:50]
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