| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers 22:39 - Sep 21 with 2342 views | tractordownsouth |
After indicating they’ll be giving more money to bankers, the government are now proposing to cut benefits for people who don’t earn enough money, after spending all summer condemning people who went on strike to increase their wages. This is presumably going to encourage them to leave their jobs in pointless industries like social care and do something much more socially important like becoming a hedge fund manager.
Even leaving aside the sheer cruelty of this (this affects people in work not just “scroungers”) it’s economic insanity as well. People on low incomes spend almost all of their money, so that’s cash being taken out of small businesses, particularly in the poorest areas.
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 22:46 - Sep 21 with 2202 views | JakeITFC |
They really are going to cram a lot of damage into their short time in power. |  | | |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 23:33 - Sep 21 with 2087 views | XYZ |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 22:46 - Sep 21 by JakeITFC |
They really are going to cram a lot of damage into their short time in power. |
Rape, pillage and run.
Started in March 2020. |  | | |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 00:45 - Sep 22 with 1998 views | pointofblue |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 22:46 - Sep 21 by JakeITFC |
They really are going to cram a lot of damage into their short time in power. |
It feels like each Conservative government is trying to out-evil the previous one. Cameron’s ministry, even the brief one he ran without the Lib Dems, looks positively saintly in comparison. | |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 00:53 - Sep 22 with 1991 views | J2BLUE |
120,000 benefit claimants will be asked to take active steps to seek more and better paid work
Yea, i've bet they've never thought of that before... |  |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 05:34 - Sep 22 with 1855 views | solomon |
The next GE can’t come soon enough, it’s critical for many of us. Labour will have a lot to do but the sooner they can start sorting things out the better. |  | | |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:04 - Sep 22 with 1641 views | Steve_M |
They can't comprehend the idea that people in paid work can still be poor, it's a fundamental lack of both awareness and empathy. It's just more of the same failed crap that's seen the UK have anaemic growth since the financial crisis.
The bonus cap is neither here nor there in real terms but it is hugely symbolic and the claims it will be a boost to the city ring hollow after the most destructive of Brexits. |  |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:32 - Sep 22 with 1563 views | BlueBadger |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 23:33 - Sep 21 by XYZ |
Rape, pillage and run.
Started in March 2020. |
They've been doing it since 2010. They're just not trying to hide it now. |  |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:43 - Sep 22 with 1533 views | Guthrum |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:04 - Sep 22 by Steve_M |
They can't comprehend the idea that people in paid work can still be poor, it's a fundamental lack of both awareness and empathy. It's just more of the same failed crap that's seen the UK have anaemic growth since the financial crisis.
The bonus cap is neither here nor there in real terms but it is hugely symbolic and the claims it will be a boost to the city ring hollow after the most destructive of Brexits. |
More fundamentally than that, they fail (or are unwilling) to comprehend that:
A) In a service industry economy, second- and third-jobs are going to want you there on the same days and times as your other employer(s) - especially weekends.
B) The geographical/logistical imopssibility of a part-time hairdresser from Bristol going salad picking in the Cambridgeshire fens on their days off (the cost of travel would, in any case, wipe out all financial benefits).
C) The fact that finding more and better paid work is not simply a matter of looking harder. The jobs have to exist in the first place. Candidates need to be suitably trained, qualified and/or experienced to get them.
D) If everyone is driven out of part-time work, who is going to do those jobs? What about employers who rely on part-time staff to keep costs down and thus remain viable?
The biggest issue is well-paid job creation, which the Government seems to think is something which will miraculously happen all by itself if comfortably-off and wealthy non business owners are allowed to save a bit in tax. Rather than actually incentivising new business creation in a targeted fashion.
In addition, what effect will this have on volunteering, a crucial cornerstone of wider social care since the cuts of the '80s and '90s? |  |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:53 - Sep 22 with 1493 views | CityBlue |
Not sure the government is giving money to bankers. Bonuses are NOT paid by UK Plc... |  |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:54 - Sep 22 with 1482 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 00:53 - Sep 22 by J2BLUE |
120,000 benefit claimants will be asked to take active steps to seek more and better paid work
Yea, i've bet they've never thought of that before... |
Mind numbingly stupid and out of touch on so many levels, isn't it. Even if it was that simple to move on, who do they think is then going to do the low paid jobs once the previous post holders have moved on to better paid work? Those new people will then need support because the jobs will still be poorly paid.
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:34 - Sep 22 with 1369 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 00:45 - Sep 22 by pointofblue |
It feels like each Conservative government is trying to out-evil the previous one. Cameron’s ministry, even the brief one he ran without the Lib Dems, looks positively saintly in comparison. |
That will be the Government which ran an austerity policy that saw libraries shut across the land, disability benefits "refocused", people driven to suicide by a harsh benefits sanction regime, and the complete dismantling of local education services leading to the collapse of educational needs statementing for children eg on the Autistic Spectrum?
I think there was more, but that's my off the top of my head list of cnt moves. | | | |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:37 - Sep 22 with 1359 views | pointofblue |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:34 - Sep 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
That will be the Government which ran an austerity policy that saw libraries shut across the land, disability benefits "refocused", people driven to suicide by a harsh benefits sanction regime, and the complete dismantling of local education services leading to the collapse of educational needs statementing for children eg on the Autistic Spectrum?
I think there was more, but that's my off the top of my head list of cnt moves. |
Exactly.
And this lot seem to be trying to be even worse than them. | |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:41 - Sep 22 with 1332 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 08:53 - Sep 22 by CityBlue |
Not sure the government is giving money to bankers. Bonuses are NOT paid by UK Plc... |
Indirectly they are via increased revenue from mortgages fuelled by interest rate rises. | |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:44 - Sep 22 with 1295 views | XYZ |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:41 - Sep 22 by Swansea_Blue |
Indirectly they are via increased revenue from mortgages fuelled by interest rate rises. |
To say nothing of the implicit cast-iron guarantee that the state will bail them out if all goes wrong - facilitating higher risk/ reward/ profits that pay the bonuses. | | | |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:47 - Sep 22 with 1268 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:34 - Sep 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
That will be the Government which ran an austerity policy that saw libraries shut across the land, disability benefits "refocused", people driven to suicide by a harsh benefits sanction regime, and the complete dismantling of local education services leading to the collapse of educational needs statementing for children eg on the Autistic Spectrum?
I think there was more, but that's my off the top of my head list of cnt moves. |
Ah, TWTD | |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:52 - Sep 22 with 1244 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:44 - Sep 22 by XYZ |
To say nothing of the implicit cast-iron guarantee that the state will bail them out if all goes wrong - facilitating higher risk/ reward/ profits that pay the bonuses. |
Yep.
They’re going to be struggling to make many bonuses off the back of the markets right now though. They seem to be having a brain fart. My investment ISA has plummeted this year. | |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:58 - Sep 22 with 1231 views | Swansea_Blue |
TBH, the peasants are bringing it on themselves. If only they bought an AGA, all their money issues would melt away. 
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 10:52 - Sep 22 with 1125 views | Pinewoodblue |
Low pay is a problem that needs to be tackled. The real solution is to raise minimum pay. |  |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 11:00 - Sep 22 with 1107 views | XYZ |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 09:52 - Sep 22 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep.
They’re going to be struggling to make many bonuses off the back of the markets right now though. They seem to be having a brain fart. My investment ISA has plummeted this year. |
Your (and my) little slices of the capitalist pie remain the same size.
The size of the pie has just deflated by a fair bit for the moment. | | | |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 11:55 - Sep 22 with 1025 views | Pinewoodblue |
Low pay is a problem that needs to be tackled. The real solution is to raise minimum pay. | |
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 12:09 - Sep 22 with 1005 views | SomethingBlue |
And when push comes to shove they'll still be cheered on by nearly 50% of an increasingly gullible, dumb, intellectually malnourished population. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 12:10]
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| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 13:14 - Sep 22 with 919 views | iamatractorboy |
| Truss and Kwarteng to go after full-time workers on 12:09 - Sep 22 by SomethingBlue |
And when push comes to shove they'll still be cheered on by nearly 50% of an increasingly gullible, dumb, intellectually malnourished population. [Post edited 22 Sep 2022 12:10]
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There'll always be about a third of the voting electorate that will back them, no matter what, but some of the extra 10% they need may actually be starting to see the light with any luck. I'm not holding my breath but that glimmer of hope is there. | | | |
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