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USA music question 15:49 - Nov 14 with 6505 viewsSharkey

We quite often hear of UK bands (and for that matter comedians) not being able to 'crack' America, but I was having a discussion about whether there are any bands who were/are BIG in America but who are almost unheard of here, or who never sold any records here. Does EVERYTHING that's big there make it over here?


We had no good suggestions. Do you?



(p.s. To answer my own question, I guess there are some huge mainstream right-wing country artists who are largely ignored here. But in rock and pop?
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USA music question on 16:03 - Nov 14 with 2762 viewsitfcjoe

I guess the main thing is Country and Western Music which is insanely big in the South and doesn't make it over here at all

Someone like the Dixie Chicks who had albums in back to back years that sold well over 10 million copies each but barely cracked 100k here

EDIT - Had a further look and Hootie and the Blowfish went 21x Platinum there (21 million copies sold) and just 100k in UK with Cracked Rear View

As suspected Dixie Chicks well up there, Shania Twain maybe the only country artist who cracked it both sides of the pond with Come on over which went 20x Platinum (20 million) in US and 10x (3.5 million) Platinum in UK

Even more so than the Dixie Chicks, Garth Brooks has 8 albums that have gone at least 10xPlatinum in the US, and never had 1 go platinum in the UK
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USA music question on 16:03 - Nov 14 with 2754 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Big in America and MASSIVE in Japan but no great shakes over here ..... Cheap Trick.

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USA music question on 16:08 - Nov 14 with 2731 viewsGlasgowBlue

USA music question on 16:03 - Nov 14 by itfcjoe

I guess the main thing is Country and Western Music which is insanely big in the South and doesn't make it over here at all

Someone like the Dixie Chicks who had albums in back to back years that sold well over 10 million copies each but barely cracked 100k here

EDIT - Had a further look and Hootie and the Blowfish went 21x Platinum there (21 million copies sold) and just 100k in UK with Cracked Rear View

As suspected Dixie Chicks well up there, Shania Twain maybe the only country artist who cracked it both sides of the pond with Come on over which went 20x Platinum (20 million) in US and 10x (3.5 million) Platinum in UK

Even more so than the Dixie Chicks, Garth Brooks has 8 albums that have gone at least 10xPlatinum in the US, and never had 1 go platinum in the UK
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Garth Brooks springs to mind.

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USA music question on 16:13 - Nov 14 with 2721 viewsSharkey

USA music question on 16:03 - Nov 14 by You_Bloo_Right

Big in America and MASSIVE in Japan but no great shakes over here ..... Cheap Trick.


Yesterday I was watching a youtube clip of the drummer's mother on U.S. Antiques Road Show.


I guess it may even have been that that subconsciously made me ask the question.




Also, Jimmy Buffett maybe. I think he's very big in America.
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USA music question on 16:34 - Nov 14 with 2675 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Aren't The Grateful Dead another band that have a huge US following but who have had limited if any success over here?

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USA music question on 16:35 - Nov 14 with 2666 viewsKeno

USA music question on 16:08 - Nov 14 by GlasgowBlue

Garth Brooks springs to mind.


he wasnt very good on match of the day either

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USA music question on 16:43 - Nov 14 with 2639 viewsIllinoisblue

USA music question on 16:34 - Nov 14 by You_Bloo_Right

Aren't The Grateful Dead another band that have a huge US following but who have had limited if any success over here?


Good shout. Their “dead head” fans are very enthusiastic and devoted.

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USA music question on 16:45 - Nov 14 with 2633 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

USA music question on 16:43 - Nov 14 by Illinoisblue

Good shout. Their “dead head” fans are very enthusiastic and devoted.


And Legion ....

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USA music question on 16:46 - Nov 14 with 2626 viewsstringy

USA music question on 16:34 - Nov 14 by You_Bloo_Right

Aren't The Grateful Dead another band that have a huge US following but who have had limited if any success over here?


In a related vein, Phish, another bunch of noodly types
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USA music question on 17:09 - Nov 14 with 2584 viewsMattinLondon

Going back to the late 90s, Bush (who are British) were massive in the USA but struggled badly over here.

A week after they played in 20k plus arenas for some tour over there they played in a pub in Camden - their second album did ok with a couple top ten singles but they were never anywhere near as popular over here as to what they were over there.
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USA music question on 17:18 - Nov 14 with 2573 viewsDJR

Talking about not being able to crack the US, I was at an American summer camp in 1979, and a British friend was sent a tape of Stiff Little Finger's Inflammable Material which was about as punk an album as you could get. So even though the US, with the New Yorks Dolls and especially the Ramones, had invented punk rock, it had never really ventured outside Manhattan. As a result, our fellow American counsellors were completely shocked and disgusted at it, while we were excited by its rawness.
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USA music question on 17:21 - Nov 14 with 2563 viewsWeWereZombies

Charles Shaar Murray pleaded their case but got nowhere:



Also:


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USA music question on 17:28 - Nov 14 with 2540 viewsGlasgowBlue

USA music question on 16:34 - Nov 14 by You_Bloo_Right

Aren't The Grateful Dead another band that have a huge US following but who have had limited if any success over here?


And Grand Funk Railroad. Massive in the US in their time.

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USA music question on 17:31 - Nov 14 with 2529 viewsWeWereZombies

USA music question on 17:28 - Nov 14 by GlasgowBlue

And Grand Funk Railroad. Massive in the US in their time.


Ahem, seconds too late you were. But I will keep quiet about Rick James and let you post that one first...

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USA music question on 17:41 - Nov 14 with 2487 viewsfloridablue

Can't be many bigger or richer than Jimmy Buffett. Sells out massive stadiums and not only music but restaurants and resorts.
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USA music question on 17:55 - Nov 14 with 2451 viewsPinewoodblue

USA music question on 17:28 - Nov 14 by GlasgowBlue

And Grand Funk Railroad. Massive in the US in their time.


When the British Invasion waned US did their own thing and a lot of US bands failed to make it in UK, Three Dog Night, Blood Sweat & Tears, I'des of March, Association , Family Stone Buckinghams all spring to mind as being big in States but non- runners, or one hit wonders here..Have seen most of them live at Abbey Road on the River or on Flower Power Cruise.

The most disappointed group we saw were Lovin Spoonful, just one of original member who although a non singing drummer back in the day was front man. Have however seen John Sebastian, as a solo performer, and he was amazing as were THe Cowsills. Not been back to States since 2019 doubt if will make it again as the flight is too much for the wife.

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USA music question on 18:01 - Nov 14 with 2437 viewsBlueandTruesince82

USA music question on 17:09 - Nov 14 by MattinLondon

Going back to the late 90s, Bush (who are British) were massive in the USA but struggled badly over here.

A week after they played in 20k plus arenas for some tour over there they played in a pub in Camden - their second album did ok with a couple top ten singles but they were never anywhere near as popular over here as to what they were over there.


The bass player in Bush was also in Transvision Vamp

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USA music question on 18:05 - Nov 14 with 2429 viewshatch

I went travelling around the Deep South in September and found this noticeable both ways. I was going into live music bars that took requests and they didn't know any Oasis or Robbie Williams and barely knew much about Ed Sheeran bizarrely.

Travelling around Alabama and Tennessee (Nashville in particular) there was obviously a huge country music following - it completely dominates all other genres. Eric Church and the Zac Brown Band are particularly popular and Garth Brooks as mentioned.

One I've probably got into most is Luke Bryan - insanely popular out there and has some proper country bangers. I imagine a lot of Americans have made love to 'Strip it down' by Luke Bryan.
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USA music question on 18:46 - Nov 14 with 2369 viewsBlueNomad

Dave Matthews Band. Absolutely enormous in the US, particularly live, but hardly a ripple here.
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USA music question on 18:58 - Nov 14 with 2344 viewsMattinLondon

USA music question on 18:01 - Nov 14 by BlueandTruesince82

The bass player in Bush was also in Transvision Vamp


I didn’t realise that - I had no idea that they are still going. Just had a quick check on wiki - one of their latter albums peaked at number 18 in the US (very respectable) whereas it only made number 200 over here. Quite strange really.
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USA music question on 19:07 - Nov 14 with 2324 viewsIllinoisblue

USA music question on 18:46 - Nov 14 by BlueNomad

Dave Matthews Band. Absolutely enormous in the US, particularly live, but hardly a ripple here.


They once got sued after their tour bus emptied the contents of the toilet on to pedestrians on the bridge below.

You are right though, crazy fans. My wife’s cousin has seen them live over 20 times

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USA music question on 19:20 - Nov 14 with 2298 viewsKeno

USA music question on 19:07 - Nov 14 by Illinoisblue

They once got sued after their tour bus emptied the contents of the toilet on to pedestrians on the bridge below.

You are right though, crazy fans. My wife’s cousin has seen them live over 20 times


cue song.....

If I had the bus of Dave Matthews
with toilet so full and so foul
Ive drive over a bridge in Norwich
and dump sh1t on the b'stards below

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USA music question on 19:25 - Nov 14 with 2288 viewsBlueNomad

USA music question on 19:07 - Nov 14 by Illinoisblue

They once got sued after their tour bus emptied the contents of the toilet on to pedestrians on the bridge below.

You are right though, crazy fans. My wife’s cousin has seen them live over 20 times


I’ve seen them twice here
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USA music question on 19:41 - Nov 14 with 2236 viewsBlueandTruesince82

USA music question on 18:05 - Nov 14 by hatch

I went travelling around the Deep South in September and found this noticeable both ways. I was going into live music bars that took requests and they didn't know any Oasis or Robbie Williams and barely knew much about Ed Sheeran bizarrely.

Travelling around Alabama and Tennessee (Nashville in particular) there was obviously a huge country music following - it completely dominates all other genres. Eric Church and the Zac Brown Band are particularly popular and Garth Brooks as mentioned.

One I've probably got into most is Luke Bryan - insanely popular out there and has some proper country bangers. I imagine a lot of Americans have made love to 'Strip it down' by Luke Bryan.




Banger.

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USA music question on 19:42 - Nov 14 with 2237 viewsStochesStotasBlewe

Greta Van Fleet.
I know very few fellow rock fans who have heard of them.

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