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Seems to be the standard observation from a stroppy teenager I know when challenged over just about anything (appearance / manners / conduct) at the moment.
Are they quite right and we should all just relax, or by so doing would you be setting them up for a hard fall later on in life?
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 11:45 - Dec 18 by bluelagos
True - but you have a legal duty to care for your kids - as tempting as it is to tell them to "go forage for some food" as soon as they are able.
But if children who reach an age of majority (and that can be debatable - sixteen, eighteen or even twenty one depending on the social arena in which a situation operates) then continue to live within a family, or a society then they are providing tacit acceptance of prevailing status quos (which, I guess, is what social constructs are.)
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 11:53 - Dec 18 by WeWereZombies
But if children who reach an age of majority (and that can be debatable - sixteen, eighteen or even twenty one depending on the social arena in which a situation operates) then continue to live within a family, or a society then they are providing tacit acceptance of prevailing status quos (which, I guess, is what social constructs are.)
I like that. Might try:
"By accepting/eating the food we chose to provide to you, you are providing tacit acceptance of the prevailing status quo and thus adopting the unwritten rules that are expected at this dinner table. You are of course welcome to go forage for your own food if you prefer and may eat them in any manner you so chose"
outside of nature etc, pretty much everything is a social construct, a result of social interaction.
It is them what 'projest fear' is to the ever dim brexiters. A slogan to bleat out when cxonfronted with even the most basic of questions. A sort of trump card, or so it seems to them.
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"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 12:01 - Dec 18 with 3129 views
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 12:01 - Dec 18 by HARRY10
Poor things, not the brightest, Generation Thick.
outside of nature etc, pretty much everything is a social construct, a result of social interaction.
It is them what 'projest fear' is to the ever dim brexiters. A slogan to bleat out when cxonfronted with even the most basic of questions. A sort of trump card, or so it seems to them.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 11:58 - Dec 18 by bluelagos
I like that. Might try:
"By accepting/eating the food we chose to provide to you, you are providing tacit acceptance of the prevailing status quo and thus adopting the unwritten rules that are expected at this dinner table. You are of course welcome to go forage for your own food if you prefer and may eat them in any manner you so chose"
I cannot claim it as an original thought though, it comes from John Locke's 'Second Treatise on Government':
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 12:01 - Dec 18 by J2BLUE
They can literally say that about everything. One day they will grow up.
Not everyone grows up :-)
I think one reason I like said teen is that I was pretty much exactly the same and like to think I've held onto a little bit of that "don't give a fck" attitude (Although am largely kidding myself am sure)
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 12:14 - Dec 18 by bluelagos
Not everyone grows up :-)
I think one reason I like said teen is that I was pretty much exactly the same and like to think I've held onto a little bit of that "don't give a fck" attitude (Although am largely kidding myself am sure)
Some things are meant to be challenged. Things like table manners just seems a bit silly when everyone benefits from some mutual unwritten rules.
Clothes are a social construct. Plenty of mammals seem to cope without them.
Hmmm, many mammals do have social constructs, take gorilla’s for instance, most gorilla groups do have a dominant leader. I guess if someone wants the group to run a different way, they can go off and form there own group or fight it out.
Maybe a course in anthropology and evolution would help.
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"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 12:21 - Dec 18 with 3031 views
It sounds like they are in a 'rebellious for the sake of it' stage, but it is fundamentally true about social constructs. Humans are not designed to live in hugely complicated societies spanning millions or perhaps billions of people. These societies are formed and held together by an enormous web of social constructs from table manners to greetings to how we celebrate events to how we mourn our dead. There is no 'universal' or 'natural' way that humans react to anything but very basic things. Anything that is not instinctive is learned behaviour.
Is it a bad thing to challenge social constructs? No, just because social constructs and the idea of what is acceptable is not a monolith and not objective. While social constructs hold societies together by establishing a kind of "code of conduct", that code is forever changing and is not uniformly agreed.
I think for instance 99.9% of us can agree murder is bad, but would struggle to agree a perfect version of table manners. We can get a similar percent agree beastiallity is wrong, but I doubt we can get that agreement of "smart casual" wear.
There were also social constructs that were hugely negative, but widely accepted. Take America, the idea that black people should be segregated from white was a social construct and hugely damaging. It taught people that white people shouldn't fraternise with those black people, that white people were superior. That social construct still persists among some people.
Now your kid might just be a rebellious little pr1ck at the moment, being nihilistic and anarchistic, saying "nothing matters", "all rules are pointless", yadder yadder. Fundamentally though, there is nothing wrong with understanding that social constructs exist and challenging them, especially when they may be part of sub-culture or counter culture arguing that those rules are wrong or don't fit for them.
May there be conflict later on? Possibly, we all do and say stupid stuff as teenagers, but that's part of growing up. Better to recognise that encouraging them to question things creates a rounded human being who can learn from mistakes, rather than beating them into a drone-like facsimile of what society demands to be acceptable.
Long story, short. They are a teenager, let them learn, question authority and make (inevitable) mistakes. Odds are they'll become a better person for it.
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"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 13:21 - Dec 18 with 2878 views
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 13:12 - Dec 18 by Kievthegreat
It sounds like they are in a 'rebellious for the sake of it' stage, but it is fundamentally true about social constructs. Humans are not designed to live in hugely complicated societies spanning millions or perhaps billions of people. These societies are formed and held together by an enormous web of social constructs from table manners to greetings to how we celebrate events to how we mourn our dead. There is no 'universal' or 'natural' way that humans react to anything but very basic things. Anything that is not instinctive is learned behaviour.
Is it a bad thing to challenge social constructs? No, just because social constructs and the idea of what is acceptable is not a monolith and not objective. While social constructs hold societies together by establishing a kind of "code of conduct", that code is forever changing and is not uniformly agreed.
I think for instance 99.9% of us can agree murder is bad, but would struggle to agree a perfect version of table manners. We can get a similar percent agree beastiallity is wrong, but I doubt we can get that agreement of "smart casual" wear.
There were also social constructs that were hugely negative, but widely accepted. Take America, the idea that black people should be segregated from white was a social construct and hugely damaging. It taught people that white people shouldn't fraternise with those black people, that white people were superior. That social construct still persists among some people.
Now your kid might just be a rebellious little pr1ck at the moment, being nihilistic and anarchistic, saying "nothing matters", "all rules are pointless", yadder yadder. Fundamentally though, there is nothing wrong with understanding that social constructs exist and challenging them, especially when they may be part of sub-culture or counter culture arguing that those rules are wrong or don't fit for them.
May there be conflict later on? Possibly, we all do and say stupid stuff as teenagers, but that's part of growing up. Better to recognise that encouraging them to question things creates a rounded human being who can learn from mistakes, rather than beating them into a drone-like facsimile of what society demands to be acceptable.
Long story, short. They are a teenager, let them learn, question authority and make (inevitable) mistakes. Odds are they'll become a better person for it.
Agree with pretty much all of that. Thx.
I do largely smile when rules are challenged by younguns - especially petty rules. When I see kids pulling wheelies down a road will always smile - and I know some get angry, very angry at that the sight.
I find it facinating how we often obsess about rules / social norms for things that simply don't matter. Things that harm no one. Or make up imagined reasons to get upset (The kids could crash and end up in hospital taking a bed from someone else)
Is it safe to talk about lockdowns yet? Is it safe to wonder how on earth did we get to a position where anyone choosing not to "stay home" but rather "go for a walk" or "sit in a park" was seen by some as the devil incarnate? Might save that one for another debate - but facinating stuff.
"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 13:32 - Dec 18 by bluelagos
Agree with pretty much all of that. Thx.
I do largely smile when rules are challenged by younguns - especially petty rules. When I see kids pulling wheelies down a road will always smile - and I know some get angry, very angry at that the sight.
I find it facinating how we often obsess about rules / social norms for things that simply don't matter. Things that harm no one. Or make up imagined reasons to get upset (The kids could crash and end up in hospital taking a bed from someone else)
Is it safe to talk about lockdowns yet? Is it safe to wonder how on earth did we get to a position where anyone choosing not to "stay home" but rather "go for a walk" or "sit in a park" was seen by some as the devil incarnate? Might save that one for another debate - but facinating stuff.
I bet psychologists and sociologists will have a field day researching how quickly we adapted and how we complied, but also the counter responses and rise of conspiracy theorists.
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"Yeah, but that's just a social construct innit" on 14:42 - Dec 18 with 2752 views
they're teenagers and their brains are still forming. it's a developmental thing. just remind them that other people and what they think and feel are real and aren't a social construct.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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