| New cricket tour, same old question 07:55 - Feb 16 with 2507 views | SaleAway |
How on God's earth is Zak Crawley still in an England shirt?
Can't bat, and just dropped an absolute sitter at 2nd slip.
Whilst I have a lot of time for Stokes and McCullum giving people freedom to play, I've still yet to see anything from Crawley that makes me think he's good enough for this level. |  |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:00 - Feb 16 with 2168 views | Samuelowen88 |
Players in general seem to be given time to come good. Which is better than dropping someone after 1 or 2 poor games.
Crawley tho is a strange one, he seems to get a good score every now and then, which must keep him in.
Who would replace him? (Genuine question) |  |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:09 - Feb 16 with 2136 views | SaleAway |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:00 - Feb 16 by Samuelowen88 |
Players in general seem to be given time to come good. Which is better than dropping someone after 1 or 2 poor games.
Crawley tho is a strange one, he seems to get a good score every now and then, which must keep him in.
Who would replace him? (Genuine question) |
He's been in the side for ~4 years now, 32 matches. He averages 28, 2 less than his first class average, so its not like he's done stuff in first class cricket.
Even worse than that. His figures are massively affected by the fact that he's played 5 tests against pakistan on ridiculously flat pitches. If you take out those, against everyone else, he averages 21. Its madness.
Hard to say who to replace him with now, as obvisouly no-one is playing FC cricket in england. but last year, there were a few options. I mean, he wasn't even the best opener in Kent. Ben Compton was smashing it around the country. | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:14 - Feb 16 with 2111 views | Steve_M |
Another question, of course, is what the fk happens when Jimmy Anderson finally retires.
Another two wickets already, NZ 31/3.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-new-zealand-2022-23-1322349/
I thought Crawley's quick scoring in Pakistan was important enough to the team to give him more of a chance for now at least.
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:18 - Feb 16 with 2083 views | Samuelowen88 |
Think the issue, is we're going to be looking for 2 bowlers. Broady will go soon i think, maybe before Anderson.
Robinson will be leading the line in the future, assuming he stays fit. | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:20 - Feb 16 with 2040 views | woodbridge_blue |
Bairstow should come back into the side when fit, and at present it is impossible to drop Duckett, Pope, Root or Brook, so the obvious answer is to drop Crawley and get one of those four to open with Duckett.
Unfortunately, none of them are natural openers.
Decent problem to have though. | | | |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:20 - Feb 16 with 2039 views | Steve_M |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:18 - Feb 16 by Samuelowen88 |
Think the issue, is we're going to be looking for 2 bowlers. Broady will go soon i think, maybe before Anderson.
Robinson will be leading the line in the future, assuming he stays fit. |
There's definitely been something of a slower shift rather than an abrupt end which has given Robinson in particular time to bed in. It's still worth remembering that the early part of Anderson's Test career was rather mixed and in the shadow of some good bowlers.
It's probably less of an issue than it looked like being three years ago. | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:23 - Feb 16 with 2017 views | SaleAway |
If you want someone to just have a massive slog at the top of the order, you might as well bring Bairstow back as an opener, as there's not really anyone else to drop.
Bowler wise, I guess its about getting some of the others fit.
Stone, Wood, Archer, for pace, Mahmood's just come back for the Lions. Potts might come back into it, not sure what happened to him.
There's a few about, but very few are likely to match up to the Broad/Anderson partnership for productivity and longevity
Edit: and Woakes.... [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 8:36]
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:44 - Feb 16 with 1977 views | Steve_M |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:23 - Feb 16 by SaleAway |
If you want someone to just have a massive slog at the top of the order, you might as well bring Bairstow back as an opener, as there's not really anyone else to drop.
Bowler wise, I guess its about getting some of the others fit.
Stone, Wood, Archer, for pace, Mahmood's just come back for the Lions. Potts might come back into it, not sure what happened to him.
There's a few about, but very few are likely to match up to the Broad/Anderson partnership for productivity and longevity
Edit: and Woakes.... [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 8:36]
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Have you, or anyone else, anyone seen anything on Bairstow's recovery?
Yeah, definitely fitness issues. Woakes is the bowler who looked the most likely to step up but I suspect injuries restrict him to just being a bit part player too. They'll probably be a lot of rotation going forward (more rotation?). | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 09:00 - Feb 16 with 1929 views | SaleAway |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:44 - Feb 16 by Steve_M |
Have you, or anyone else, anyone seen anything on Bairstow's recovery?
Yeah, definitely fitness issues. Woakes is the bowler who looked the most likely to step up but I suspect injuries restrict him to just being a bit part player too. They'll probably be a lot of rotation going forward (more rotation?). |
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/england-bairstow-ashes-world-cup-29122757
according to this, he is "on track" but with no firm date for return. I'm presuming he's hoping to start again at the beginning of the county season, and find some form. | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 09:13 - Feb 16 with 1887 views | Samuelowen88 |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:44 - Feb 16 by Steve_M |
Have you, or anyone else, anyone seen anything on Bairstow's recovery?
Yeah, definitely fitness issues. Woakes is the bowler who looked the most likely to step up but I suspect injuries restrict him to just being a bit part player too. They'll probably be a lot of rotation going forward (more rotation?). |
Via the power of the Tailenders Pod and Wallace and Grommit, he's back running on the AlterG treadmil, so sounds like it's progressing well | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 14:18 - Feb 16 with 1606 views | Zx1988 |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:00 - Feb 16 by Samuelowen88 |
Players in general seem to be given time to come good. Which is better than dropping someone after 1 or 2 poor games.
Crawley tho is a strange one, he seems to get a good score every now and then, which must keep him in.
Who would replace him? (Genuine question) |
Wayne Madsen?
Otherwise I understand that Liam Livingstone is a hot young prospect... | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 14:23 - Feb 16 with 1596 views | bournemouthblue |
Centrally Contracted Zak Crawley that is, someone rates him and/or he knows the right people |  |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 14:28 - Feb 16 with 1588 views | bournemouthblue |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 14:18 - Feb 16 by Zx1988 |
Wayne Madsen?
Otherwise I understand that Liam Livingstone is a hot young prospect... |
Jennings' name will pop up again, it might be a season or too early for Compton
I can see someone higher up suggests Crawley isn't even the best player from Kent, I imagine Bell-Drummond would tell you Crawley is the third best player from Kent
There seems to be rumblings about Bairstow coming back into open, now Brook seems to be cementing his place at 5 | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:17 - Feb 17 with 1381 views | SaleAway |
Despite being fed some appalling bowling this morning, failed again.
Broad's nighthawk innings is a bit weird... | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:57 - Feb 17 with 1342 views | Zx1988 |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 08:17 - Feb 17 by SaleAway |
Despite being fed some appalling bowling this morning, failed again.
Broad's nighthawk innings is a bit weird... |
Can we ask the ICC to adapt the rules to state that Crawley has to be caught behind/at slip at least two/three times before it counts as being out? Otherwise it's pretty much a free wicket. | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 10:36 - Feb 17 with 1304 views | Horsham |
He tends to struggle against English type bowlers and can be pretty decent against genuine pace of the type the Aussies have. In a funny way I suspect he’ll do better than Duckett in the Ashes.
He’s got a high ceiling and there’s a lack of credible alternatives. I’d keep him in. |  | | |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 11:04 - Feb 17 with 1273 views | SaleAway |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 10:36 - Feb 17 by Horsham |
He tends to struggle against English type bowlers and can be pretty decent against genuine pace of the type the Aussies have. In a funny way I suspect he’ll do better than Duckett in the Ashes.
He’s got a high ceiling and there’s a lack of credible alternatives. I’d keep him in. |
What evidence do you have for this high ceiling?
He's scored 3 test centuries. One on a featherbed in Southampton which petered out into a draw, one on a featherbed in West Indies which petered out to a draw, and one on a featherbed in Pakistan that england managed to win, when everyone scored big.
In the meantime 47% of his innings end up in single figure scores.
He'll never have to face Aussie genuine pace, because in all likelihood Hazelwood will nick him off every time this summer before he even has to face Starc or Cummins | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 11:14 - Feb 17 with 1264 views | Horsham |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 11:04 - Feb 17 by SaleAway |
What evidence do you have for this high ceiling?
He's scored 3 test centuries. One on a featherbed in Southampton which petered out into a draw, one on a featherbed in West Indies which petered out to a draw, and one on a featherbed in Pakistan that england managed to win, when everyone scored big.
In the meantime 47% of his innings end up in single figure scores.
He'll never have to face Aussie genuine pace, because in all likelihood Hazelwood will nick him off every time this summer before he even has to face Starc or Cummins |
I’m pretty sure on the last tour down under he played a knock where he drove and pulled the Aussie attack to ribbons in a losing cause, various other snippets that I can’t recall all the detail on, but I think he has something. Hazelwood is more of a bounce bowler than a pitch up Southee style seamer. Appreciate there’s no huge statistical body of evidence and his propensity to nick off is infuriating but on the eye test when he’s going well he looks very good. Tbh it has to be at least a valid opinion as Stokes and McCullum seem to share it and they know a lot more than I do! | | | |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 13:04 - Feb 17 with 1205 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 11:14 - Feb 17 by Horsham |
I’m pretty sure on the last tour down under he played a knock where he drove and pulled the Aussie attack to ribbons in a losing cause, various other snippets that I can’t recall all the detail on, but I think he has something. Hazelwood is more of a bounce bowler than a pitch up Southee style seamer. Appreciate there’s no huge statistical body of evidence and his propensity to nick off is infuriating but on the eye test when he’s going well he looks very good. Tbh it has to be at least a valid opinion as Stokes and McCullum seem to share it and they know a lot more than I do! |
If he gets in he seems to really get in, but it doesn't get in nearly often enough. As you say, a habit of nicking off early in an innings.
But an openers job is to build a platform and outside of the sub continent he just doesn't..... but who do you turn to instead?
Bring back Burns? Hameed? Few inspiring options |  |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 13:17 - Feb 17 with 1194 views | bournemouthblue |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 13:04 - Feb 17 by BlueandTruesince82 |
If he gets in he seems to really get in, but it doesn't get in nearly often enough. As you say, a habit of nicking off early in an innings.
But an openers job is to build a platform and outside of the sub continent he just doesn't..... but who do you turn to instead?
Bring back Burns? Hameed? Few inspiring options |
He averages 30 at first class level, there seems to be little evidence he's going to kick on
I suspect he looks great in nets and maybe he's a good trainer but that isn't enough surely, McCullum obviously likes him and is backing him for the timebeing
He's got the shots but loves to flash outside off, early on to bowlers who are going to keep inviting it
There was some stat knocking about that he has the highest percentage of nicks of any playing test match player, something ridiculous like 10% of all his shots are nicks | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 14:54 - Mar 1 with 962 views | SaleAway |
Watching Dawid Malan's excellent knock in the ODI, can't help wonder if he might be worth another go in the test side, perhaps in place of Crawley.
Also wonder if he might end up opening instead of Roy for the World cup, given Roy's problems opening against spin. Probably gives a way to get Root and Brook back into the lineup... | |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 15:01 - Mar 1 with 948 views | chicoazul |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 14:54 - Mar 1 by SaleAway |
Watching Dawid Malan's excellent knock in the ODI, can't help wonder if he might be worth another go in the test side, perhaps in place of Crawley.
Also wonder if he might end up opening instead of Roy for the World cup, given Roy's problems opening against spin. Probably gives a way to get Root and Brook back into the lineup... |
Pretty sure Bairstow will come in for Crawley when fit, and open the batting. |  |
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| New cricket tour, same old question on 17:49 - Mar 1 with 886 views | Horsham |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 15:01 - Mar 1 by chicoazul |
Pretty sure Bairstow will come in for Crawley when fit, and open the batting. |
Bairstow isn’t an opener though. In front of him in the middle order is the captain who’s also the inspirational all rounder, a generational talent in Root, a potential generational talent in Brook and the best keeper in the world.
I just think he’ll be a pale imitation of last seasons Bairstow if he opens.
Although I’m wavering on Crawley I have to admit! | | | |
| New cricket tour, same old question on 23:13 - Mar 1 with 795 views | BlueForYou |
Bairstow & Duckett as an opening pair. If they get their eye in, that could be carnage. McCullum will be eyeing that for sure. As for Crawley, he just doesn’t seem to be learning anything, he still makes the same poor mistakes, playing across the ball, no feet moving, etc. He needs a perfect storm scenario of flat pitch, great weather, the right bowlers, to get any kind of score. Johnny can’t be any worse with a much higher ceiling.
Big worry for us going forward is the captains fitness. His knee issue does not look good, & we need him to be bowling fit for the Ashes. If he were to break down, I wonder who would captain the side? We should have plenty of bowling back up, but replacing a player like Stokes as the all rounder batting at six is impossible. |  | | |
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