| Barnsley's Home Form 10:33 - Apr 23 with 2065 views | Guthrum |
Won nine on the bounce at Oakwell. Sounds fearsome. But let's take a deeper dive into those matches:
22nd Apr - Oxford - 20th in the table, not won a game since 21st Jan
10th Apr - Shrewsbury - Mid table, but had lost four of the preceding six matches (a run which was to continue)
1st Apr - Morecambe - 22nd on the day, had lost 7 of the preceding 12 games
21st Mar - Sheffield Weds - What would turn out to be the first (or second, if you count the draw against Bolton) game of a significant blip
11th Mar - Plymouth - Have only beaten two teams currently in the top half of the table away from home*, losing nearly half of those
7th Mar - Portsmouth - 10th on the day and on a good run
25th Feb - Derby - 5th on the day, but stuttering with 3 wins from the previous 11 matches
11th Feb - Cambridge - 23rd on the day and pretty poor away from home up to that point (W2 D2 L10)
21st Jan - Accrington - 19th at the time and actually on a moderately decent run, for them, of just 2 losses in the previous 6
It's certainly an achievement to be so solid at home, but the opposition could be described as patchy (or, in some cases, flaky) at best. Given Town's strength - our away record is the best in the division (significantly so if going by points per game) - we should not feel overawed by the prospect, while treating the match with due and proper respect.
* Edit: forgot this very important qualifier. [Post edited 23 Apr 2023 10:37]
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| Great post Guthers (n/t) on 10:34 - Apr 23 with 1987 views | Dyland |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 10:36 - Apr 23 with 1958 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
In short, they didn't play Ipswich in that run. |  |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 10:38 - Apr 23 with 1952 views | Guthrum |
For the Plymouth comment, that should have said "away from home". They're pretty devastaing against everyone at Home Park. | |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 12:46 - Apr 23 with 1767 views | Vegtablue |
I totally agree with your last paragraph Guthrum - as mentioned elsewhere, these other teams aren't us!
13 wins from 14 is some achievement though and I think the deeper dive, while interesting and good reading, probably reduces it by only a smidge. Funnily in a write-up of our own recent run I'd put the Port Vale win near the top, such was their organization and commitment on the day. |  | | |
| Barnsley's Home Form on 12:51 - Apr 23 with 1731 views | tractordownsouth |
To be fair, you could probably make similar points for most of the games we've played during our run too.
It's going to be a tough one and I think most of us would take a point if offered it. They would too if it were played at any other point during the season. |  |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 12:59 - Apr 23 with 1686 views | Herbivore |
And if you drill down into some of those games at an individual level, they haven't really been blowing sides away (Morecambe aside) recently. Oxford were well in the game yesterday as were Shrewsbury. At 3-2 against Wednesday it was looking as likely Wednesday would equalise as Barnsley would score another. A bit like Plymouth and Wednesday, they've managed to be on the right side of fine margins a lot during their good run. That's true of us too but Barnsley create a lot less than us and concede a lot more chances than we do. Their games don't have the lopsided look that ours tend to. It's a tough game but not one we should fear, I think we're well placed to go there and win. |  |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 13:02 - Apr 23 with 1669 views | Stenvict |
The thing about L1 is that the teams at the top can have these sort of winning streaks at home, if they're playing only teams in the bottom 3/4 of the league.
It's why the Top 4 could all end up on 90+ points. | |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 13:06 - Apr 23 with 1646 views | tractordownsouth |
| Barnsley's Home Form on 12:59 - Apr 23 by Herbivore |
And if you drill down into some of those games at an individual level, they haven't really been blowing sides away (Morecambe aside) recently. Oxford were well in the game yesterday as were Shrewsbury. At 3-2 against Wednesday it was looking as likely Wednesday would equalise as Barnsley would score another. A bit like Plymouth and Wednesday, they've managed to be on the right side of fine margins a lot during their good run. That's true of us too but Barnsley create a lot less than us and concede a lot more chances than we do. Their games don't have the lopsided look that ours tend to. It's a tough game but not one we should fear, I think we're well placed to go there and win. |
It will be an interesting tactical match up because even in our recent wins away at Bolton, Derby and Peterborough, we've had less possession than our opponents.
Obviously we took the lead in the first half of those matches so game state skews those statistics but even if we score early against Barnsley, I think we'll dominate the ball. Their possession stats are 14th in the league which unusual for an automatic promotion contender, especially considering they've got some good technical midfielders.
They'll probably look to hit us on the break with Devante Cole and obviously Norwood will chase everything. | |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 13:14 - Apr 23 with 1576 views | OldFart71 |
Absolutely no reason we cannot win at Barnsley. We are the best team in this league by a Country mile despite being second. It's amazing that a team can go on such a fantastic run, scoring 34 goals and only 2 against and still not be top. Credit to Plymouth as the have hung in their. Wednesday haven't capitulated totally and we must be on our guard. Do the things we have been doing so well and we will get there. It does appear that this league is getting harder and harder to get out of because you have big teams coming down, smaller one's having gained promotion and those already showing enough form as with Plymouth from last season then continuing progress. Also a group of teams who put up one hell of a fight by time wasting and putting eleven behind the ball. From a Town point of view they need promotion to justify the outlay of getting on for 4 million in transfers, plus loan deals. Hopefully a lot of this is offset by sell on clauses, shirt sales and other merchandise, sponsership and ticket sales. | | | |
| Barnsley's Home Form on 16:48 - Apr 23 with 1252 views | Guthrum |
| Barnsley's Home Form on 12:51 - Apr 23 by tractordownsouth |
To be fair, you could probably make similar points for most of the games we've played during our run too.
It's going to be a tough one and I think most of us would take a point if offered it. They would too if it were played at any other point during the season. |
Indeed, altho I wouldn't take a point and neither, I suspect, would Barnsley.
My post was in response to people showing fear at facing Barnsley with their recent record. They are no less human than Town, have just done as ourselves in taking advantage of skill/form differentials and chances when offered. | |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 17:33 - Apr 23 with 1117 views | Dubtractor |
I admire the positive spin Guthers, but beating Wednesday, Plymouth and Derby in that lot is no mean feat. |  |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 17:47 - Apr 23 with 1074 views | Guthrum |
| Barnsley's Home Form on 17:33 - Apr 23 by Dubtractor |
I admire the positive spin Guthers, but beating Wednesday, Plymouth and Derby in that lot is no mean feat. |
They caught Wednesday crumbling with injuries, Derby on a poor run, Plymouth away are not as good against stronger teams. Where is our current weakness for them to exploit?
Not saying it will be easy, but the playing field is more level than some seem to think. | |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 17:58 - Apr 23 with 1019 views | NthQldITFC |
I'm not for a minute knocking any of these posts or threads about Barnsley and their form etc. - it's what the forum is here for after all - but my internal response to all of them is just something along the lines of:
"Town are by some distance the best team in this division, with talented and grounded players who are managed sensibly and calmly, and I'm comfortable with us whoever and wherever we play." |  |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 18:02 - Apr 23 with 1007 views | Dubtractor |
| Barnsley's Home Form on 17:47 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
They caught Wednesday crumbling with injuries, Derby on a poor run, Plymouth away are not as good against stronger teams. Where is our current weakness for them to exploit?
Not saying it will be easy, but the playing field is more level than some seem to think. |
Don't get me wrong, I think there is a good chance we'll go there and get a result, I'm certainly not fearing them. Look at the overall recent form (including away games) and it's not that terrifying at all. | |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 18:12 - Apr 23 with 964 views | jayessess |
This is a bit "straw-clutchy" for me. They've clearly been one of the best teams in the league at home (in fact they're slightly better ppg - 2.33 v. 2.32 - than we are at Portman Road!).
It's a big challenge Tuesday Night. |  |
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| Barnsley's Home Form on 18:18 - Apr 23 with 947 views | Churchman |
They’re obviously a really strong side and are likely to provide a heck of a test. But when I look at not just what we’ve been doing but how, we will provide a heck of a test for them too.
Whether a club has been in good form as Bolton were or not, few sides have laid a glove on us. Peterborough, Derby and Bolton away? I thought if we did really well, we’d grind out two wins and a draw or two draws and a win. That sort of thing. We didn’t grind out anything. We wiped the floor with them.
Cheltenham and Port Vale who put men behind the ball (just about all of them) are the only teams to make us struggle since Feb.
So you are Barnsley. What do you do? Do you try and outplay us or try and hit us on the break? They’re at home so of course they’ll come at us, especially with that firepower. Looking at how well we’ve played against teams that do that, we have the potential to hurt them.
I’m waffling away, but the bottom line is just carry on doing what we’ve been doing and we will be fine. |  | | |
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