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People knowledgeable of Scottish football 20:44 - Aug 31 with 1885 viewsgtsb1966

Is there a big drop in the standard of football at the moment. Rangers getting thrashed yesterday, Hearts and Hibs in the easier Europa conference league getting thrashed and it looks like Aberdeen are getting knocked out of the Europa league too. Its not so much that they are out but the aggregate scores are terrible.
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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 20:49 - Aug 31 with 1828 viewsmonty_radio

Outside of the Old Firm attendances and revenues have been left behind in relation to bigger and better leagues. And even Rangers have yet to recover fully from their enforced demotions a decade or so ago. Celtic, on a good day, could account for a few scalps, but generally the standard is woeful. Certainly Aberdeen are nothing like the team Fergie brought to P.R. in 1983. They're being played off the park at the moment, aren't they?

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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 20:55 - Aug 31 with 1778 viewspointofblue

People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 20:49 - Aug 31 by monty_radio

Outside of the Old Firm attendances and revenues have been left behind in relation to bigger and better leagues. And even Rangers have yet to recover fully from their enforced demotions a decade or so ago. Celtic, on a good day, could account for a few scalps, but generally the standard is woeful. Certainly Aberdeen are nothing like the team Fergie brought to P.R. in 1983. They're being played off the park at the moment, aren't they?


Aberdeen are a bit unfortunate to be behind, in fairness.

Hibernian in the first leg and Hearts in the second were humilated though, not to mention Rangers last night.

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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 21:03 - Aug 31 with 1752 viewsMattinLondon

People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 20:49 - Aug 31 by monty_radio

Outside of the Old Firm attendances and revenues have been left behind in relation to bigger and better leagues. And even Rangers have yet to recover fully from their enforced demotions a decade or so ago. Celtic, on a good day, could account for a few scalps, but generally the standard is woeful. Certainly Aberdeen are nothing like the team Fergie brought to P.R. in 1983. They're being played off the park at the moment, aren't they?


Being fair, a lot of Scottish cities do not really have the population to sustain big attendances.

I think that Scotland has one of the highest ration of population-to-football attendances in Europe but it still results to fairly average gates by English championship standards.
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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 21:29 - Aug 31 with 1656 viewsIllinoisblue

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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 21:39 - Aug 31 with 1606 viewsskinnybob72

The TV deal and other sponsorship in Scotland is tiny compared to a lot of the other countries, and not just the big 5 leagues.

The teams outside of the Old Firm rely massively on gate money as it makes up a huge percentage of the revenue, which is completely the opposite of the Premier League.

I was at Hearts home European games and against the Greek team the difference in first touch was the thing that really stood out. It gave them so much more time on the ball whereas Hearts second touch was generally a header or a tackle!

There's still too much 'blood and thunder' in the Scottish game which got you so far way back but European teams got wise to that a long time ago, and now their better technique almost always wins through.
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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 22:21 - Aug 31 with 1512 viewsGlasgowBlue

I didn’t think there has been a drop off. Rangers had a bad night last night. Two weeks before they drew 2 each with OSV. Last year they beat the same team over two legs. The season before, they got to the final of the UEFA Cup, beating the likes of Dortmund and Leipzig in the way.

Outside the Old Firm the standard is pretty crap though.
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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 01:49 - Sep 1 with 1313 viewsSharkey

I saw Hibs lose 7-0 at home to Malmö round about ten years ago at this time of year, so they weren't great then either.
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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 06:50 - Sep 1 with 1205 viewsElephantintheRoom

If you consider the population of the country, which is about the same as Yorkshire, the breadth and standard of Scottish football is remarkably high - albeit a lot lower than times past.

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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 07:41 - Sep 1 with 1125 viewsReus30

Even the old firm are suffering now. It's a mixture of things but the standard has become sub championship now.

No youth prospects coming through of the standard of yester year. Any that do, get snapped up for a pittance from English teams or go to Northern England academies.

No recruitment that generates any value. If you look at the talent that Celtic had brought in a few years ago, it was a great model. This summer's window has been horrific and from review, they only have a few 'sellable' assets. If you look at Rangers, they rave about Cantwell... He's dross.

TV money (nothing).

Investment. Owners of Scottish football clubs cannot afford any investment. Celtic owners notoriously don't put any of their own money in to be (sustainable). Rangers are shambles at the top (complete board reshuffle - they should have took me on why I applied for the CFO role). Even smaller SPL teams just have local business owners who don't want any part of it and I can understand why.
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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 08:10 - Sep 1 with 1073 viewsITFC_Forever

It's not a drop off, they've all been dreadful for years.

Hence why a move to Rangers or Celtic for a decent player in their 20s is a waste of a move.
A handful of big games a season and the rest of the time they're playing against the Dog & Duck.

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People knowledgeable of Scottish football on 09:04 - Sep 1 with 971 viewsCityBlue

the quality bar the odd one or two clubs is about League One level

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