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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker 20:59 - Jun 19 with 4511 viewsVic

would get in the ‘Golden Generation’ team that he was part of. (See BEEB sport homepage)

I’d absolutely have Bellingham in, and also Kane.

I find that interesting in the light of all the current hype about the current team.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:12 - Jun 19 with 4015 viewsSwansea_Blue

Pickford? Blimey.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:12 - Jun 19 with 4020 viewsMK1

Seaman
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole
Beckham, Rice, Scholes,
Bellingham
Kane, Rooney

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:26 - Jun 19 with 3931 viewsMVBlue

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:12 - Jun 19 by MK1

Seaman
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole
Beckham, Rice, Scholes,
Bellingham
Kane, Rooney


Pickford has first class distribution and saves penalties (We should have won Euro 2020 if not for bad penalties).
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole -( is right)
Beckham, Bellingham, Gerrard, (big game players)
Sterling (highly dangerous attack)
Kane, Owen

Rooney had a great Euro debut but was never a big game player, hes benched. Its 5 from the modern era and 6 from the past. Most of the Golden era were not England minded so happy to drop the big time charlies for the modern proud team players.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:36 - Jun 19 with 3847 viewswischip

Ah yes that Golden Generation that never won a quarter final in a tournament.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:39 - Jun 19 with 3828 viewsMK1

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:26 - Jun 19 by MVBlue

Pickford has first class distribution and saves penalties (We should have won Euro 2020 if not for bad penalties).
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole -( is right)
Beckham, Bellingham, Gerrard, (big game players)
Sterling (highly dangerous attack)
Kane, Owen

Rooney had a great Euro debut but was never a big game player, hes benched. Its 5 from the modern era and 6 from the past. Most of the Golden era were not England minded so happy to drop the big time charlies for the modern proud team players.
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Sterling isn't in this squad.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:53 - Jun 19 with 3777 viewsMK1

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:26 - Jun 19 by MVBlue

Pickford has first class distribution and saves penalties (We should have won Euro 2020 if not for bad penalties).
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole -( is right)
Beckham, Bellingham, Gerrard, (big game players)
Sterling (highly dangerous attack)
Kane, Owen

Rooney had a great Euro debut but was never a big game player, hes benched. Its 5 from the modern era and 6 from the past. Most of the Golden era were not England minded so happy to drop the big time charlies for the modern proud team players.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 22:08 - Jun 19 with 3668 viewsMVBlue

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:53 - Jun 19 by MK1



Technically the backpass during the France game at Euro 2004 is relevant here
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 22:21 - Jun 19 with 3585 viewsredrickstuhaart

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:26 - Jun 19 by MVBlue

Pickford has first class distribution and saves penalties (We should have won Euro 2020 if not for bad penalties).
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole -( is right)
Beckham, Bellingham, Gerrard, (big game players)
Sterling (highly dangerous attack)
Kane, Owen

Rooney had a great Euro debut but was never a big game player, hes benched. Its 5 from the modern era and 6 from the past. Most of the Golden era were not England minded so happy to drop the big time charlies for the modern proud team players.
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Sterling.

Lol
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 22:28 - Jun 19 with 3551 viewsMattinLondon

As talented as the ‘golden generation’ they were a bunch of underachievers more interested in egotistical club rivalry than putting such rivalries to one side. A bunch of spice boys who should have done much much better.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 05:49 - Jun 20 with 3194 viewsChrisd

All opinions I know, but Pickford better than David Seaman? I think not. David James and Paul Robinson certainly more comparable. I was having this same conversation over the weekend - Walker and Kane would get in for me, but I think the rest would struggle. There’s no doubt Bellingham is a very good player, but better than any of Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham or Scholes in midfield? I’m not sure.

This current England side are a collective unit, the ‘golden generation’ were good players but played as individuals. 2002 and 2004 those England squads were so strong, they should’ve won a major tournament during that period, but always came up short.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 06:40 - Jun 20 with 3098 viewsElephantintheRoom

He’s probably right - seaman was prone to costly gaffes and presumably he’s thinking of a fit Michael Own up front, not Emile Heskey

The ‘golden generation’ were not a good team (or they were a badly managed team) … but other countries have good players too - hence England don’t win every game.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker (n/t) on 06:41 - Jun 20 with 3091 viewsElephantintheRoom


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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker (n/t) on 07:55 - Jun 20 with 2919 viewsBarcaBlue

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker (n/t) on 06:41 - Jun 20 by ElephantintheRoom



One of your more insightful posts.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 08:36 - Jun 20 with 2798 viewsStewart27

The Golden Generation failed.

I’m intrigued to see what this bunch can do.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 08:39 - Jun 20 with 2782 viewsStewart27

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:12 - Jun 19 by MK1

Seaman
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole
Beckham, Rice, Scholes,
Bellingham
Kane, Rooney


Struggling to see a balance there.

Looks like you’ve gone for a hybrid of a classic Sven 4-4-2 with Scholes on the left combined with a 4-3-2-1 with Beckham playing central in a 3.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:02 - Jun 20 with 2716 viewsBiGDonnie

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:12 - Jun 19 by MK1

Seaman
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole
Beckham, Rice, Scholes,
Bellingham
Kane, Rooney


Rice and Scholes over Gerrard is possibly one of the worst footy opinions I've ever seen.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:08 - Jun 20 with 2686 viewsBiGDonnie

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 06:40 - Jun 20 by ElephantintheRoom

He’s probably right - seaman was prone to costly gaffes and presumably he’s thinking of a fit Michael Own up front, not Emile Heskey

The ‘golden generation’ were not a good team (or they were a badly managed team) … but other countries have good players too - hence England don’t win every game.


Couldn't find a way to dig out the Town in this post? You feeling ok?

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:12 - Jun 20 with 2666 viewsJackSwan

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:02 - Jun 20 by BiGDonnie

Rice and Scholes over Gerrard is possibly one of the worst footy opinions I've ever seen.


Scholes won 11 PL titles. We should've built the team around him, and I say this as a bit of a Gerrard fanboy.

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So excited to see how Palmer develops, he looks very classy. I wonder if Ipswich should sign him.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:20 - Jun 20 with 2644 viewsMercian

Pickford is a better keeper than many give him credit for. He had a patchy spell for Everton 2 or 3 years ago and but has been very good since. Bellingham would get into that team.
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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:27 - Jun 20 with 2620 viewsrickw

It's interesting the similarities between that team and now:
Only a good but not great keeper available
Only a single left back of a good enough level
No natural left winger of the same level as the others
Lots of quality midfielders

Also where would Beckham play if he was playing today as most teams now play 433/4231 with right footed left wingers and vice versa with really only the full backs supplying the crosses?

Also Scholes over Gerrard is a reasonable decision if you want to play a possession game. Gerrard through large parts of his career went for the spectacular killer pass every time, I'm sure I read he had the PL record for lowest pass success for 90 mins for a game at West Ham (in Hodgson/Dalglish's time)

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:28 - Jun 20 with 2610 viewsBiGDonnie

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:12 - Jun 20 by JackSwan

Scholes won 11 PL titles. We should've built the team around him, and I say this as a bit of a Gerrard fanboy.

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So excited to see how Palmer develops, he looks very classy. I wonder if Ipswich should sign him.


Ha, once we've finished top four and qualified for the Champs league we can bring him in. Shame he wont' get a look in at these Euros with Safegate in charge.

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Meh on 09:30 - Jun 20 with 2604 viewsDyland

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:20 - Jun 20 by Mercian

Pickford is a better keeper than many give him credit for. He had a patchy spell for Everton 2 or 3 years ago and but has been very good since. Bellingham would get into that team.


Pickers flatters to deceive. He also thinks he’s pretty cool. He’s obviously a good keeper but nothing more.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:40 - Jun 20 with 2577 viewsmutters

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 21:12 - Jun 19 by MK1

Seaman
Walker, Ferdinand, Campbell, Cole
Beckham, Rice, Scholes,
Bellingham
Kane, Rooney


Does Seaman qualify as being part of the golden generation? His last England game was 2002 I think.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 10:37 - Jun 20 with 2495 viewsmutters

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:02 - Jun 20 by BiGDonnie

Rice and Scholes over Gerrard is possibly one of the worst footy opinions I've ever seen.


Rice I could argue about, Gerrard would win that for me.

However as for Scholes. World class. Absolute world class. When you hear about some of the greatest players around that time talk about him (Zidane, Henry for example), he is the player they say was above others.

Probably because of his mannerisms and his nature, he doesn't get the plaudits he deserves.

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Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 11:29 - Jun 20 with 2422 viewsrickw

Rio Ferdinand reckons only Pickford and Walker on 09:40 - Jun 20 by mutters

Does Seaman qualify as being part of the golden generation? His last England game was 2002 I think.


No I don't think so - he was past his best in 2002 too, "Golden Generation" keepers would be Paul Robinson or David James, Scott Carson and Rob Green also briefly played then but I doubt anyone would select them!

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