| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest 20:45 - Feb 16 with 4115 views | Nutkins_Return |
If we were to be playing championship football what realistically might out team look like?
Sold:
Delap £40-65 mil (depending on the clause)
Muric? (Or Walton) £4-5 mil if lucky
Davis £25-30 mil?
Tuanzebe? Out of contract?
Omari - £25 mil
O'shea? £15mil? (Think he stays for one season)
Luongo
Would think we would be looking to bring in £60-80mil or so of what we spent (after player purchases).
Team?
Palmer
Clarke O'Shea Greaves Townsend
Morsy Taylor
Ogbene Szmodics Philogene
Hirst
Walton
Broadhead
Clarke
Woolf
Burgess
Humphreys
Burns
Chaplin
Al Hamadi
It's a strong squad. Guess we would need to bring in 2 new CMs and a striker and potentially a RB and LB if Davis and Tuanzebe go.
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 20:55 - Feb 16 with 3775 views | Oldsmoker |
This time last season I was thinking that the PL was not just a dream but a possibility.
I can't get my mindset into moving backwards.
It's always forward and up.
So I guess I can't comment on this thread.
oops I just did. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:01 - Feb 16 with 3716 views | BlueBoots |
Don't think we'd be under any pressure financially to sell - players would go if the club get offers that are too good to turn down, or if players have the opportunity to remain in the Prem and don't fancy the Championship.
One correction - we have a one-year option with Tuanzebe, so not necessarily out of contract after this season... |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:03 - Feb 16 with 3675 views | FrimleyBlue |
I think delap and Davis maybe the only ones we get bids for.
Tuanzebe I think will go
Then we lose phillips. Cajuste. Julio. Godfrey.
So I reckon the first game would be
Palmer
Oshea
Wolfenden
Greaves
Townsend
Taylor
Morsy/humphreys
Philogene
Hutchinson
Clarke
Hirst
Philogene
Johnson
Clarke H
Al hamadi
Broadhead
Szmodics
Ogbene
It's a very very nice champ side what ever you put out.
Really difficult to say what players will be targets for other clubs.. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:20 - Feb 16 with 3604 views | billlm |
Morsy and Taylor will be bench players
Taylor I do like
Morsy father times knocking,
Would be two new midfielders,
A balance of what we have now Cajuste is a real talent,
A position we need to nail and can not be found wanting,
Oh Humphreys will play a big part if we go down,
He may ultimately save usa lot of money on a midfielder classy lad, [Post edited 16 Feb 21:22]
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:27 - Feb 16 with 3506 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:20 - Feb 16 by billlm |
Morsy and Taylor will be bench players
Taylor I do like
Morsy father times knocking,
Would be two new midfielders,
A balance of what we have now Cajuste is a real talent,
A position we need to nail and can not be found wanting,
Oh Humphreys will play a big part if we go down,
He may ultimately save usa lot of money on a midfielder classy lad, [Post edited 16 Feb 21:22]
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Also intriguing to see if any of the u21s come into the picture.
That mendel lad seems to be involved in a fair few goals or attempts.. then we have the new left back from Chelsea. Joe would be better placed for that thinking though. | |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:30 - Feb 16 with 3514 views | _clive_baker_ |
I’d be surprised if we get £30m for Davis tbh, just not sure there’s a market at that sort of level. I could see £15m - £20m to a West Ham or back to Leeds (assuming they go up).
Delap will clearly go to the highest bidder, Hutchinson will have interest. I think there will be a reasonable amount of departures we opt into less regrettably, and a fair few additions.
McKenna is a big question mark too, I can see him replacing Ange. |  | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:32 - Feb 16 with 3479 views | le2blue |
Suspect Morsy might get his Saudi pay day, along with Axel. |  | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:34 - Feb 16 with 3461 views | Cafe_Newman |
I really don't want to entertain the possibility even if it is just a hypothetical exercise or just a bit of fun. |  | | |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:35 - Feb 16 with 3445 views | le2blue |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:30 - Feb 16 by _clive_baker_ |
I’d be surprised if we get £30m for Davis tbh, just not sure there’s a market at that sort of level. I could see £15m - £20m to a West Ham or back to Leeds (assuming they go up).
Delap will clearly go to the highest bidder, Hutchinson will have interest. I think there will be a reasonable amount of departures we opt into less regrettably, and a fair few additions.
McKenna is a big question mark too, I can see him replacing Ange. |
i just can't see Spurs fans accepting a relegated coach, they're kicking off at the moment and Levy will want someone who is going to appease them...like Thomas Frank or even Iraola. | | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:47 - Feb 16 with 3352 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I don’t care who stays with us if we go down, so long as KM does. Everyone else is easily replaceable. | | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 23:08 - Feb 16 with 3082 views | Illinoisblue |
Delap fee sounds about right. The rest are pure fantasy. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 23:14 - Feb 16 with 3062 views | Bugs |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 21:01 - Feb 16 by BlueBoots |
Don't think we'd be under any pressure financially to sell - players would go if the club get offers that are too good to turn down, or if players have the opportunity to remain in the Prem and don't fancy the Championship.
One correction - we have a one-year option with Tuanzebe, so not necessarily out of contract after this season... |
I'm 99% certain that we are in that one year option we had with Tuanzebe this season, and he is out of contract end of the season. |  | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 00:12 - Feb 17 with 2917 views | itfc_bucks |
Out of curiosity, who do you think is going to cough up £25 mil for Omari?
And Davis wouldnt be £25 mil either. His deficiencies have been rather brutally exposed this season. | | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 07:10 - Feb 17 with 2555 views | textbackup |
What is there a number next to Muric for? Only one club is paying money for him next season, and unfortunately it’s us paying his wage. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 07:18 - Feb 17 with 2496 views | mikeybloo88 |
Perhaps a few lads who everyone thinks are guaranteed to be wanted by Prem clubs will themselves have realised that maybe they’re not yet quite as good as everyone and they thought...and see a benefit in staying and bringing us back up....including McKenna maybe? |  | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 07:49 - Feb 17 with 2387 views | Churchman |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 00:12 - Feb 17 by itfc_bucks |
Out of curiosity, who do you think is going to cough up £25 mil for Omari?
And Davis wouldnt be £25 mil either. His deficiencies have been rather brutally exposed this season. |
Davis’ strengths have also been shown up. He’s worth £25m plus. He’s also under contract, settle£ here so unless the club has its maths wrong and or the player gets an offer her can’t refuse from a top club, why would he move?
Omari? Who do you think would not pay £25m or more for him? In a struggling team with poor service he’s shown his attributes and is still learning the game. And he’s learning it rapidly. After Delap our best player.
I think in the narrow world of ITFC it’s easy to forget that there has been considerable player fee inflation in the past couple of years. Even the value of rubbish like that Nkunku at Chelsea who played at PR and stank the place out has risen to a hoped for £65m.
Before the season started we were shopping in the Premier League bargain basement bin. Lowest budget, most in need of players to make the step up. It just seemed outrageous since just three years earlier we were shocked at playing £1m for a player.
A player is only worth what someone will pay, obviously. But since I sense there’s no need of a fire sale, if we lose a player or two I’d like to think we’d get full value for them. [Post edited 17 Feb 8:50]
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 08:15 - Feb 17 with 2297 views | Pinewoodblue |
There really is no justification for this defeatist attitude.
The season is far from over, just get behind the project which is about to move on to the next level.
Two weeks today and we could all be going to bed dreaming of Wembley, and looking bsck on two amazing performances in the Premier League.
To sooner this post drops off page one the better. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 08:29 - Feb 17 with 2233 views | Vic |
I reckon that whoever is manager they’ll be able to weave a decent team out of those players? A little bit thread bare in a couple of positions but we’ll make a darned got go of it. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 08:34 - Feb 17 with 2207 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 23:08 - Feb 16 by Illinoisblue |
Delap fee sounds about right. The rest are pure fantasy. |
They are really not. Omari is only a bit more than we paid after a full season in the Prem where he has not looked out of place in a struggling team. Teams like Forest, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham etc (Where they have their talent taken from bigger clubs) will replenish smartly with Omari who would do really well in a more established club.
These clubs understand the context of our position and Omari's age/progression/potential etc.
Similarly for Davis. Davis has struggled with the volume of defensive work which is less is strength then the forward work. I think you put Davis in an established team like Brighton etc and he would excel. And it's not huge money for established Orem teams | |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 09:37 - Feb 17 with 1969 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 08:34 - Feb 17 by Nutkins_Return |
They are really not. Omari is only a bit more than we paid after a full season in the Prem where he has not looked out of place in a struggling team. Teams like Forest, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham etc (Where they have their talent taken from bigger clubs) will replenish smartly with Omari who would do really well in a more established club.
These clubs understand the context of our position and Omari's age/progression/potential etc.
Similarly for Davis. Davis has struggled with the volume of defensive work which is less is strength then the forward work. I think you put Davis in an established team like Brighton etc and he would excel. And it's not huge money for established Orem teams |
You don’t get it do you?
We are not going to be in Championship next season. | |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 10:12 - Feb 17 with 1893 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 08:15 - Feb 17 by Pinewoodblue |
There really is no justification for this defeatist attitude.
The season is far from over, just get behind the project which is about to move on to the next level.
Two weeks today and we could all be going to bed dreaming of Wembley, and looking bsck on two amazing performances in the Premier League.
To sooner this post drops off page one the better. |
Is this for real. I'm assuming a joke?
But just in case it's serious....Absolutely no defeatist attitude whatsoever. It's a hypothetical football discussion on a football forum. I'm ever an optimist. It's clearly not a "let's prepare for the inevitable worst' post is it. I made that very clear. | |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 11:06 - Feb 17 with 1739 views | baxterbasics |
I'd be surprised if all the following are all still with us next season should we drop:
Philogene
Hutchinson
J Clarke
Szmodics
Particularly Omari, but all staying would be massive for our prospects of bouncing back up - that's four proven Championship beaters. We'd only need to use the funds to shore up defence and CM, oh and I guess a striker assuming Delap gone, can't rely on Hirst and AAH do to the biz alone.
I don't think Davis or Omari would be guaranteed to have firm offers from PL teams, given they've done ok but not yet (in my opinion) lit up the PL. Other than maybe from the three teams that go up, which might not be the most attractive prospect?
(Now imagining Leif ending up back at Leeds... yuck!) |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 11:11 - Feb 17 with 1717 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
I don't mean to be harsh on Leif, but after this season I doubt many are going to be offering huge sums for him. He's a good player, and developing, but he's not adjusted to the league as we would have hoped. Hutchinson needs another year too, so that will probably put off any huge fees coming in for him either. No criticism, he's had a season in the Championship and half a season in the top flight, and like Davis is not the finished article.
Delap would be the big sale, I think we could hang onto the rest.
I think Muric will be sold, I think Mass may move on and Burns may be the unlucky one who's also moved on as his injury record suggests we aren't likely to get another full season out of him, which is cruel given how much he's put into playing for Ipswich. |  |
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| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 11:43 - Feb 17 with 1673 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 11:06 - Feb 17 by baxterbasics |
I'd be surprised if all the following are all still with us next season should we drop:
Philogene
Hutchinson
J Clarke
Szmodics
Particularly Omari, but all staying would be massive for our prospects of bouncing back up - that's four proven Championship beaters. We'd only need to use the funds to shore up defence and CM, oh and I guess a striker assuming Delap gone, can't rely on Hirst and AAH do to the biz alone.
I don't think Davis or Omari would be guaranteed to have firm offers from PL teams, given they've done ok but not yet (in my opinion) lit up the PL. Other than maybe from the three teams that go up, which might not be the most attractive prospect?
(Now imagining Leif ending up back at Leeds... yuck!) |
Would suggest that neither Philogene or Clarke have done enough to prove themselves in the PL yet, unless one of the newly promoted sides had a punt on them. | | | |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 15:17 - Feb 17 with 1443 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Not thinking negatively purely just out of interest on 11:06 - Feb 17 by baxterbasics |
I'd be surprised if all the following are all still with us next season should we drop:
Philogene
Hutchinson
J Clarke
Szmodics
Particularly Omari, but all staying would be massive for our prospects of bouncing back up - that's four proven Championship beaters. We'd only need to use the funds to shore up defence and CM, oh and I guess a striker assuming Delap gone, can't rely on Hirst and AAH do to the biz alone.
I don't think Davis or Omari would be guaranteed to have firm offers from PL teams, given they've done ok but not yet (in my opinion) lit up the PL. Other than maybe from the three teams that go up, which might not be the most attractive prospect?
(Now imagining Leif ending up back at Leeds... yuck!) |
Really. Omari would be most likely to go but I don't see any of the rest going and I wouldn't be surprised if Omari stays even though I listed as one who might be sold.
Jaden can't keep moving. He switched to us knowing full well we might go down and he needs a couple of years of consistent football now. Move and not play again would be a disaster. He's staying.
Clarke I think will probably stay and get more game time again (whichever league we are in actually).
Szmodics I have zero worries about. Got his Prem dream. At his age needs to play and don't see that many suitors in prem. Think he would love a title challenge with us or another go in Prem when we stay up ;) | |
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