| Getting slightly concerned 18:54 - Dec 8 with 2954 views | sjg |
That we are getting Kompanyd. McKenna’s principles are great and have got us so far, but sometimes you have to sacrifice them to see a game out as opposed to keeping the same formation for the full 90 every week. If he sticks with us for next season then great, we have plenty to work with - if he ends up somewhere else I will be pissed off |  | | |  |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:00 - Dec 8 with 2697 views | redrickstuhaart |
We keep the same formation not out of dogmatism, but because it is a shape which has been drilled and worked on in exquisite detail over a long period, and is therefore likely the best option. | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:06 - Dec 8 with 2641 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:00 - Dec 8 by redrickstuhaart |
We keep the same formation not out of dogmatism, but because it is a shape which has been drilled and worked on in exquisite detail over a long period, and is therefore likely the best option. |
Results say otherwise I’m afraid | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:08 - Dec 8 with 2617 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:06 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Results say otherwise I’m afraid |
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| Getting slightly concerned on 19:10 - Dec 8 with 2595 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:08 - Dec 8 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Jesus Christ |
Do you think we concede late goals so often if we change shape? You don’t think one result would have been different had we moved to a 5 back? | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:14 - Dec 8 with 2538 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:10 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Do you think we concede late goals so often if we change shape? You don’t think one result would have been different had we moved to a 5 back? |
We did that vs Brentford.. went well.
This system has us operating at a fairly competitive level. How many games this season did we deserve more from. Leicester, United, Villa, Brentford. The common denominator in all of those games as to why we didn't get points, is not the system, Its individual mistakes, fine margins.
Leicester-Bad refereeing, Morsy failing to clear, Burns getting knocked off the ball
United-Wonder saves from Onana
Villa, Greaves passes the ball right to Rogers
Brentford- Muric loses the cross.
I could go on and on. This system is fine. We just keep shooting ourself in the foot. So many times this season. its fine margins. [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 19:15]
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| Getting slightly concerned on 19:17 - Dec 8 with 2505 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:14 - Dec 8 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
We did that vs Brentford.. went well.
This system has us operating at a fairly competitive level. How many games this season did we deserve more from. Leicester, United, Villa, Brentford. The common denominator in all of those games as to why we didn't get points, is not the system, Its individual mistakes, fine margins.
Leicester-Bad refereeing, Morsy failing to clear, Burns getting knocked off the ball
United-Wonder saves from Onana
Villa, Greaves passes the ball right to Rogers
Brentford- Muric loses the cross.
I could go on and on. This system is fine. We just keep shooting ourself in the foot. So many times this season. its fine margins. [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 19:15]
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You’ve just said Brentford went well and then acknowledged that we only lost to an individual error
Wasnt fine margins at Forest or vs Palace, we could have played both those games for 180 mins and wouldnt have scored in either | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:18 - Dec 8 with 2490 views | ReusersTown |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:10 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Do you think we concede late goals so often if we change shape? You don’t think one result would have been different had we moved to a 5 back? |
We are in a 5 at the back sometimes, you don't seem to understand modern football, not at this level anyway. Can't believe you still need it explained to you after 3 Years of McKenna being here, that our shape is flexible, hence why Burns,Tuanzebe and Donacien have been such valuable assets. Or maybe you've only just shown up? | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:19 - Dec 8 with 2473 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:18 - Dec 8 by ReusersTown |
We are in a 5 at the back sometimes, you don't seem to understand modern football, not at this level anyway. Can't believe you still need it explained to you after 3 Years of McKenna being here, that our shape is flexible, hence why Burns,Tuanzebe and Donacien have been such valuable assets. Or maybe you've only just shown up? |
Haha. Last away game I missed was Portsmouth away in Dec 22. Swivel | | | |
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| Getting slightly concerned on 19:23 - Dec 8 with 2407 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:17 - Dec 8 by sjg |
You’ve just said Brentford went well and then acknowledged that we only lost to an individual error
Wasnt fine margins at Forest or vs Palace, we could have played both those games for 180 mins and wouldnt have scored in either |
But as just pointed out. For most of that game we had Burns/Ogbene playing as a hybrid RW/RWB.
It's like when people used to say, have we tried 2 up top, at a team who haven't scored in a while, like it makes a difference. We play a back 3/5 anyway.
Seems McKenna is the guy getting the heat today as opposed to the keeper who quite evidently gave a goal away... | |
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| Getting slightly concerned on 19:25 - Dec 8 with 2369 views | ReusersTown |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:19 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Haha. Last away game I missed was Portsmouth away in Dec 22. Swivel |
Lol so you're just saying that you don't understand what you've been seeing for the last 2 years then, and proud of it apparently. | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:27 - Dec 8 with 2350 views | mistert |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:19 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Haha. Last away game I missed was Portsmouth away in Dec 22. Swivel |
Not sure anyone that says 'swivel' deserves to have their opinion respected. |  | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:27 - Dec 8 with 2347 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:23 - Dec 8 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
But as just pointed out. For most of that game we had Burns/Ogbene playing as a hybrid RW/RWB.
It's like when people used to say, have we tried 2 up top, at a team who haven't scored in a while, like it makes a difference. We play a back 3/5 anyway.
Seems McKenna is the guy getting the heat today as opposed to the keeper who quite evidently gave a goal away... |
Eh. Annoyed at Muric too. Think McKenna’s game management has been consistently poor for a while and it’s a bit more of an unpopular opinion on here - just wanted to see what others thought on whether we are being pragmatic enough. Not sure there would be any great debate if I jumped on here and said Muric should have stayed on his line | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:27 - Dec 8 with 2335 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:27 - Dec 8 by mistert |
Not sure anyone that says 'swivel' deserves to have their opinion respected. |
Made me chuckle | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:28 - Dec 8 with 2320 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:25 - Dec 8 by ReusersTown |
Lol so you're just saying that you don't understand what you've been seeing for the last 2 years then, and proud of it apparently. |
I completely understand - I have never seen Omari play as a right back. | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:30 - Dec 8 with 2268 views | itfcsuth |
The shape is much the same in and out of possession, but we defend in a 4-4-2 which many teams do now, and we did last year.
We have made alterations though, most notably how aggressive and high we press, we have sacrificed that for a more mid/low block - presumably with the fear being PL players would pick apart a high press. |  | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:39 - Dec 8 with 2173 views | ReusersTown |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:28 - Dec 8 by sjg |
I completely understand - I have never seen Omari play as a right back. |
So just moving the goalposts then as you've realized you're evidently wrong. | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:40 - Dec 8 with 2161 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:39 - Dec 8 by ReusersTown |
So just moving the goalposts then as you've realized you're evidently wrong. |
No? Just saying our standard shape is a 4231, and i’ve never seen Omari who regularly plays right wing play right back like you are suggesting happens all the time | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:51 - Dec 8 with 2044 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:00 - Dec 8 by redrickstuhaart |
We keep the same formation not out of dogmatism, but because it is a shape which has been drilled and worked on in exquisite detail over a long period, and is therefore likely the best option. |
It also makes us extremely predictable. |  |
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| Getting slightly concerned on 20:02 - Dec 8 with 1934 views | bournemouthblue |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:51 - Dec 8 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It also makes us extremely predictable. |
Teams have countered us by going 5 at the back too
A weakness of the system is an ability to adapt to it, we could switch to the 541 with overlapping centre backs, which isn't a wild switch from that 4231 imho
That isn't a huge swap but does pack another player at the back you have to pass through |  |
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| Getting slightly concerned on 20:09 - Dec 8 with 1885 views | billlm |
Nearly there but going down, season to early,
Money spent not good enough,
Different kettle of fish this league from skill to play acting to poor refs, |  | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 16:59 - Mar 15 with 929 views | sjg |
Bump | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 17:05 - Mar 15 with 845 views | ITFCSG |
McK should have gone to Brighton and we sign Hürzeler in an ideal world
(McK probably took one look at the Brighton dressing room with players speaking a multitude of languages and decided it was not for him) | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 17:07 - Mar 15 with 807 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
Who will come in for McKenna? He will be on shortlists but is he going to be the top choice for anyone in the PL? | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 17:09 - Mar 15 with 746 views | sjg |
| Getting slightly concerned on 17:07 - Mar 15 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Who will come in for McKenna? He will be on shortlists but is he going to be the top choice for anyone in the PL? |
i’m less concerned about him going now but more frustrated about him setting us up like an idiot to increase his stock | | | |
| Getting slightly concerned on 17:10 - Mar 15 with 718 views | mrshallisfit |
| Getting slightly concerned on 19:19 - Dec 8 by sjg |
Haha. Last away game I missed was Portsmouth away in Dec 22. Swivel |
So loyal.....but a bit thick. | | | |
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