Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? 18:44 - Mar 14 with 7639 views | Zx1988 | First we had the collective crushing of grapes at the fact that Charles had celebrated Iftar with Muslims on Ash Wednesday, of all days: https://thecatholicherald.com/why-does-king-charles-choose-to-highlight-ramadan- And now it seems to be the go-to response to the usual racists commenting on Town's inclusive social media strategy: Maybe they could give up being racist c0ckw0mbles for Lent? |  |
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Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:47 - Mar 14 with 3717 views | redrickstuhaart | Absolutely no one celebrates or wishes people a happy lent. So they are being nobs. Lent is a pointless opportunity for very modest self denial, as a precursor to the spring equinox celebration. Very few people I have ever met take it remotely seriously. |  | |  |
Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:51 - Mar 14 with 3686 views | jontysnut |
Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:47 - Mar 14 by redrickstuhaart | Absolutely no one celebrates or wishes people a happy lent. So they are being nobs. Lent is a pointless opportunity for very modest self denial, as a precursor to the spring equinox celebration. Very few people I have ever met take it remotely seriously. |
Even Cards r Us doesn't do a Happy Lent card, and they do birthday cards from dogs. |  | |  |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 18:53 - Mar 14 with 3684 views | Bloots | ....the term "gammon" was racist? |  |
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Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:54 - Mar 14 with 3660 views | SuperKieranMcKenna | Personally I think all religion is daft in the year 2025… |  | |  |
Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:58 - Mar 14 with 3640 views | Zx1988 |
Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:47 - Mar 14 by redrickstuhaart | Absolutely no one celebrates or wishes people a happy lent. So they are being nobs. Lent is a pointless opportunity for very modest self denial, as a precursor to the spring equinox celebration. Very few people I have ever met take it remotely seriously. |
I'll agree with your final sentence. Even our vicar, who's a high church, sing-the-gospel, incense-and-bells type, and takes most matters of faith rather seriously, doesn't seem to be too fussed about everything between the first Thursday of Lent and Palm Sunday. A recent Lent course consisted of a church watch-along of Casablanca, with a token tenuous attempt at trying to tie it in with Christ's 40 days in the wilderness. [Post edited 14 Mar 19:05]
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I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:12 - Mar 14 with 3588 views | redrickstuhaart |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 18:53 - Mar 14 by Bloots | ....the term "gammon" was racist? |
I agree. Best not used tbh. Even if you dont think it is (in which case you are wrong) then you fuel the ability of those you are criticising to say it is and complain about double standards... [Post edited 14 Mar 19:18]
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Yep, it could be argued that.... on 19:30 - Mar 14 with 3510 views | Bloots |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:12 - Mar 14 by redrickstuhaart | I agree. Best not used tbh. Even if you dont think it is (in which case you are wrong) then you fuel the ability of those you are criticising to say it is and complain about double standards... [Post edited 14 Mar 19:18]
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....the OP is a racist calling out a racist. I genuinely think that apart from "narrative" and "fallacy" then racist is the most common word used on this forum! |  |
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I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:31 - Mar 14 with 3507 views | Zx1988 |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 18:53 - Mar 14 by Bloots | ....the term "gammon" was racist? |
Middle-class white males with high blood pressure and reactionary/racist views aren't a race, so cannot be victims of racism. |  |
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I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:32 - Mar 14 with 3502 views | redrickstuhaart |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:31 - Mar 14 by Zx1988 | Middle-class white males with high blood pressure and reactionary/racist views aren't a race, so cannot be victims of racism. |
It is a blatant and obvious reference to people's skin colour. Connecting such people with being bigots. |  | |  |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:34 - Mar 14 with 3473 views | Zx1988 |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:32 - Mar 14 by redrickstuhaart | It is a blatant and obvious reference to people's skin colour. Connecting such people with being bigots. |
Being ruddy of face, be it through high blood pressure, excessive alcohol consumption, or just general outrage at non-white, non-British, non-Christians being treated as human beings, isn't a racial characteristic. |  |
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Oh, in that case you're excused.... on 19:36 - Mar 14 with 3448 views | Bloots |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:31 - Mar 14 by Zx1988 | Middle-class white males with high blood pressure and reactionary/racist views aren't a race, so cannot be victims of racism. |
....because you're obviously a bit thick. |  |
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I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:37 - Mar 14 with 3433 views | BlueBadger |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:12 - Mar 14 by redrickstuhaart | I agree. Best not used tbh. Even if you dont think it is (in which case you are wrong) then you fuel the ability of those you are criticising to say it is and complain about double standards... [Post edited 14 Mar 19:18]
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Can we all PLEASE consider the feelings of the angry white racists. The REAL victims of bigotry nowadays. Poor sods can't even call for buildings to be burnt down with women and children inside them without being locked away these days. PC gorn MAD. |  |
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You called them... on 19:38 - Mar 14 with 3428 views | Bloots |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:34 - Mar 14 by Zx1988 | Being ruddy of face, be it through high blood pressure, excessive alcohol consumption, or just general outrage at non-white, non-British, non-Christians being treated as human beings, isn't a racial characteristic. |
..."white males". Pretty sure that's a racial characteristic. |  |
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Here he is! (n/t) on 19:39 - Mar 14 with 3412 views | Bloots |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:37 - Mar 14 by BlueBadger | Can we all PLEASE consider the feelings of the angry white racists. The REAL victims of bigotry nowadays. Poor sods can't even call for buildings to be burnt down with women and children inside them without being locked away these days. PC gorn MAD. |
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I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:39 - Mar 14 with 3417 views | redrickstuhaart |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:34 - Mar 14 by Zx1988 | Being ruddy of face, be it through high blood pressure, excessive alcohol consumption, or just general outrage at non-white, non-British, non-Christians being treated as human beings, isn't a racial characteristic. |
Its clearly a reference to a stereotypical white person of a certain age and mindset. Use the reverse -check and ask yourself whether referring to another race by reference tiothe colour of their face when angry would be okay. More to the point- even if you wrongly think its not racist, you are giving the people you want to criticise an absolute open goal to claim double standards and hypocrisy. Be better than them. |  | |  |
Oh, in that case you're excused.... on 19:41 - Mar 14 with 3395 views | Zx1988 |
Oh, in that case you're excused.... on 19:36 - Mar 14 by Bloots | ....because you're obviously a bit thick. |
What is it, precisely, about this bunch of racist, immigrant hating, transphobic, Islamophobic knuckledraggers, that makes you so keen to jump to their defence? |  |
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I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:43 - Mar 14 with 3358 views | redrickstuhaart |
I thought it was agreed that.... on 19:37 - Mar 14 by BlueBadger | Can we all PLEASE consider the feelings of the angry white racists. The REAL victims of bigotry nowadays. Poor sods can't even call for buildings to be burnt down with women and children inside them without being locked away these days. PC gorn MAD. |
Can we please not walk into such an obvious piece of hypocrisy? |  | |  |
Not defending anyone..... on 19:45 - Mar 14 with 3331 views | Bloots |
Oh, in that case you're excused.... on 19:41 - Mar 14 by Zx1988 | What is it, precisely, about this bunch of racist, immigrant hating, transphobic, Islamophobic knuckledraggers, that makes you so keen to jump to their defence? |
....and unless you are reading imaginary text then I don't know why you think I am. But making a racist comment against racists, waters down your argument somewhat. But then an awful lot of racists argue that their comments aren't racist. |  |
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Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 19:54 - Mar 14 with 3254 views | NthQldITFC |
Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 18:54 - Mar 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna | Personally I think all religion is daft in the year 2025… |
I would tend to agree with you, but respect everybody's right to practice it or believe what they want - unless it gets in the way of human rights or most importantly environmental protection. There ain't no god which is gonna come along and fix things just in time, we're going to have to do it ourselves - that must not be lost in waffle, as offensive as they may feel to some. |  |
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Not defending anyone..... on 19:58 - Mar 14 with 3227 views | jontysnut |
Not defending anyone..... on 19:45 - Mar 14 by Bloots | ....and unless you are reading imaginary text then I don't know why you think I am. But making a racist comment against racists, waters down your argument somewhat. But then an awful lot of racists argue that their comments aren't racist. |
Although most stereotype ' gammons' are white males, not all white males are 'gammons' so how is calling someone a 'gammon' racist? Correlation not causation. |  | |  |
Not defending anyone..... on 20:03 - Mar 14 with 3166 views | redrickstuhaart |
Not defending anyone..... on 19:58 - Mar 14 by jontysnut | Although most stereotype ' gammons' are white males, not all white males are 'gammons' so how is calling someone a 'gammon' racist? Correlation not causation. |
Thats not how it works. In fact its the opposite of how it works. The whole issue of stereotyping is that you tar a racial group with a particular brush by connecting the criticism to their skin colour! |  | |  |
Is Lent the new Gammon cause celebre? on 20:11 - Mar 14 with 3104 views | DJR | I can't quite work out whether the photo on the tweet shows Mussolini or a prominent member of the Nazi Party. On balance, I think it is Mussolini because of the jaw. The irony of those criticising the decline of the influence of Christianity in our country is that the vast majority don't go to church. And surely the Catholic Herald must know that Prince Charles is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, which does not suggest indifference to Christianity on his part? He has, however, said he wants to support all faiths in this country, which in my view can't be a bad thing. [Post edited 14 Mar 20:39]
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Not defending anyone..... on 20:12 - Mar 14 with 3096 views | Zx1988 |
Not defending anyone..... on 20:03 - Mar 14 by redrickstuhaart | Thats not how it works. In fact its the opposite of how it works. The whole issue of stereotyping is that you tar a racial group with a particular brush by connecting the criticism to their skin colour! |
It's not because of their skin colour, though. It's because they're a bunch of hate-filled racist f**knuggets, who just happen to be white. |  |
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Not defending anyone..... on 20:16 - Mar 14 with 3074 views | redrickstuhaart |
Not defending anyone..... on 20:12 - Mar 14 by Zx1988 | It's not because of their skin colour, though. It's because they're a bunch of hate-filled racist f**knuggets, who just happen to be white. |
Its not the [insert ethnic group]'s skin colour its the fact that a load of them are knife wielding drug dealers. Thats why its okay to call them [insert colour or description] murderers. Do you see? |  | |  |
Yep, it could be argued that.... on 20:29 - Mar 14 with 3002 views | StokieBlue |
Yep, it could be argued that.... on 19:30 - Mar 14 by Bloots | ....the OP is a racist calling out a racist. I genuinely think that apart from "narrative" and "fallacy" then racist is the most common word used on this forum! |
I think that post is a fallacy, plenty of other words that are used more than those. To be honest it looks like you're pushing a narrative. SB |  | |  |
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