| Baggott to return? 06:43 - Apr 8 with 2574 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
With the news that Cam Burgess is likely to leave, do we think Baggott will return to the squad next season as back up to Greaves?
I don't think he's pulled up any trees in League One, but it would certainly free up wages to spend elsewhere like central midfield. |  | | |  |
| Baggott to return? on 06:55 - Apr 8 with 2520 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Do we need to free up wages?
I guess it will be tricky keeping everyone happy, but we need to keep that strength in depth and ideally build ready for another push to the top and attempt to stay in the prem. That's the theory. Scrimp and save and we risk just slipping back to obscurity. Spend it whilst we've got it! |  | | |
| Baggott to return? on 07:01 - Apr 8 with 2494 views | PioneerBlue |
It will depend on whether he’s genuinely seen to be ready to compete with JG (c£15m signing) or whether another season loan would be better for him. No point mostly sitting on the bench from a development perspective, we’d do better having a loan player ready to play, otherwise we might sell and capture a game ready defender (buy or loan) to compete with JG.
I don’t know if he’s ready or not after only seeing a handful of games a season or so back. | |
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| Baggott to return? on 07:22 - Apr 8 with 2424 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’d be amazed if someone doesn’t come in for Greaves |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 08:02 - Apr 8 with 2318 views | Blue_Heath |
| Baggott to return? on 06:55 - Apr 8 by Axeldalai_lama |
Do we need to free up wages?
I guess it will be tricky keeping everyone happy, but we need to keep that strength in depth and ideally build ready for another push to the top and attempt to stay in the prem. That's the theory. Scrimp and save and we risk just slipping back to obscurity. Spend it whilst we've got it! |
Of course we need to save money. Delap sale will put as at break even for last year. We are a championship team again and need to budget accordingly. | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 08:58 - Apr 8 with 2204 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Baggott to return? on 08:02 - Apr 8 by Blue_Heath |
Of course we need to save money. Delap sale will put as at break even for last year. We are a championship team again and need to budget accordingly. |
We're a championship team with parachute payments for the next 3 seasons. We're a championship club with the most revenue we'll ever have in that league next season. We are not in a position where we *need* to keep an untested average league one defender as our backup centre back. Was my point. Don't p1ss it up the wall, but equally while we have the advantage and are on the front foot, don't sit back and allow ourselves to slide back to average mediocrity. | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 09:13 - Apr 8 with 2147 views | bournemouthblue |
He had a funny time at Blackpool, injuries and new managers
He looks like he has the talent to be a decent player but he really should be starting to stand out now |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 09:18 - Apr 8 with 2125 views | franz_tyson |
A Fridge-type CB who can play either left or right would be better. Woolf needs to start practicing with his left foot.
If we keep Baggott, he needs to get a successful loan under his belt first. Not sure he's going to make it with us. | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 09:24 - Apr 8 with 2099 views | _clive_baker_ |
He's not had the best season at Blackpool, he's had a pretty unlucky run fitness wise.
Last time I saw Baggott at the training ground he had locked himself in a room by himself and was doing deep breathing exercises. I was told he does it every day, helps him feel 'present' apparently. Each to their own.
Not sure he's one who will get anywhere close to our side next season tbh, not with Greaves ahead of him and if Burgess moves on I think we'll add another there. |  | | |
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| Baggott to return? on 09:49 - Apr 8 with 2020 views | Guthrum |
| Baggott to return? on 08:58 - Apr 8 by Axeldalai_lama |
We're a championship team with parachute payments for the next 3 seasons. We're a championship club with the most revenue we'll ever have in that league next season. We are not in a position where we *need* to keep an untested average league one defender as our backup centre back. Was my point. Don't p1ss it up the wall, but equally while we have the advantage and are on the front foot, don't sit back and allow ourselves to slide back to average mediocrity. |
Two seasons of parachute payments, rather than three, due to us having only been one season in the Prem.
But our losses for this season will not have to be squeezed within the EFL PSR rules, given we were in the higher division (assuming we haven't broken the Prem's version - and, even then, the Leicester precedent would suggest we get away with that). |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 13:10 - Apr 8 with 1758 views | LeoMuff |
Baggott will not be what we need next season, we need top level championship defenders, not ones who looked ok in league 1 |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 13:37 - Apr 8 with 1656 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Baggott to return? on 08:02 - Apr 8 by Blue_Heath |
Of course we need to save money. Delap sale will put as at break even for last year. We are a championship team again and need to budget accordingly. |
I'm not sure where you arrive at breakeven for 24/25 with the sale of Delap - there is nowhere near enough information to know what out PSR accounts will look like for this season right now, and we don't know what we'll see from any Delap sale.
Next season we'll receive ~£55M from the parachute payment, and presumably there are relegation clauses in player contracts (of course we can't know that for sure, but looking at the last couple of years accounts, the club is being run responsibly now, so it's not an unreasonable assumption). We also carry forward over £4M of PSR headroom from the most recent accounts.
All things being equal, it looks likely that we'll have far greater fiscal flexibility next season than you suggest (and without any player fire sale) | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 13:38 - Apr 8 with 1632 views | textbackup |
| Baggott to return? on 07:22 - Apr 8 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d be amazed if someone doesn’t come in for Greaves |
Like who? You aren’t suggesting a team that’s just been promoted?! |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 13:40 - Apr 8 with 1636 views | ghostofescobar |
Can't see it happening. With our budget for next season, I'm not sure why they would be going for him. Maybe as a squad player, but even then only maybe I'd say. |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 15:42 - Apr 8 with 1499 views | LankHenners |
Suspect we'd hoped he would have kicked on a bit more by now if we were going to see him as a genuine back-up to Greaves at Championship level.
I've always liked him when I've seen him play but wonder if we've just outgrown him and aren't in the position to just drop him in and see if he thrives? |  |
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| Baggott to return? on 16:12 - Apr 8 with 1436 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Baggott to return? on 15:42 - Apr 8 by LankHenners |
Suspect we'd hoped he would have kicked on a bit more by now if we were going to see him as a genuine back-up to Greaves at Championship level.
I've always liked him when I've seen him play but wonder if we've just outgrown him and aren't in the position to just drop him in and see if he thrives? |
Yeah, weird to think of the 'casualties' of us doing so well. In a parallel universe we are a decent mid championship team with Baggott, el mizouni and Humphreys along with Woolf and harry Clarke and our youth set up suddenly looks a lot rosier!
In reality only Woolf is good enough for where we are now. | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 19:16 - Apr 8 with 1270 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Baggott to return? on 13:38 - Apr 8 by textbackup |
Like who? You aren’t suggesting a team that’s just been promoted?! |
There will be interest in Greaves and O'Shea but I think we will plan to hold on to both. Those involved I. Professional recruitment will be looking far beyond some of our fans who make ridiculous judgements against defenders playing together for the first time in a struggling team who have suffered lots of injuries etc. Greaves and O'Shea have all the qualities to play in the Prem. A Brentford or a Bournemouth may well be interested as well as club going up etc. | |
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| Baggott to return? on 19:19 - Apr 8 with 1255 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Baggott to return? on 19:16 - Apr 8 by Nutkins_Return |
There will be interest in Greaves and O'Shea but I think we will plan to hold on to both. Those involved I. Professional recruitment will be looking far beyond some of our fans who make ridiculous judgements against defenders playing together for the first time in a struggling team who have suffered lots of injuries etc. Greaves and O'Shea have all the qualities to play in the Prem. A Brentford or a Bournemouth may well be interested as well as club going up etc. |
It’s pretty obvious that data points towards these players now so wouldn’t surprise me.
O’Shea is somebody I’d be pretty bothered about losing - really hope we keep him. | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 19:46 - Apr 8 with 1214 views | BlueForYou |
What we need is Burgess signed to a long contract! |  | | |
| Baggott to return? on 09:35 - Apr 9 with 891 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Baggott to return? on 07:22 - Apr 8 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d be amazed if someone doesn’t come in for Greaves |
I think you’re right. Many of our fans seem to have the impression that we will keep our squad of PL players in the Championship but I just can’t see it.
The players themselves have ambitions to play in PL and can now class themselves as having that experience on their CV. Most of them are young and will be good mid-table PL players in time. Their agents will already be looking for the move back to the PL.
Add to that the 3 teams coming up will all need to add squad players, ideally with some PL experience, but without breaking the bank for PSR. I’m afraid that means the 3 going down are likely to be the source of these transfers.
You only have to look at last year and the players Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton picked up from the relegated trio to see that this is the case.
To top it all off, many of the prospects we signed were highly coveted by Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose 9 or 10 regulars in the summer.
But dare to say it and you’ll be downvoted into the abyss. [Post edited 9 Apr 9:40]
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| Baggott to return? on 12:41 - Apr 9 with 752 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Baggott to return? on 09:35 - Apr 9 by SimonBatfordITFC |
I think you’re right. Many of our fans seem to have the impression that we will keep our squad of PL players in the Championship but I just can’t see it.
The players themselves have ambitions to play in PL and can now class themselves as having that experience on their CV. Most of them are young and will be good mid-table PL players in time. Their agents will already be looking for the move back to the PL.
Add to that the 3 teams coming up will all need to add squad players, ideally with some PL experience, but without breaking the bank for PSR. I’m afraid that means the 3 going down are likely to be the source of these transfers.
You only have to look at last year and the players Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton picked up from the relegated trio to see that this is the case.
To top it all off, many of the prospects we signed were highly coveted by Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose 9 or 10 regulars in the summer.
But dare to say it and you’ll be downvoted into the abyss. [Post edited 9 Apr 9:40]
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I'm not going to downvote you for an opinion - even if I disagree with it 
I just don't see 9-10 regulars going (excluding loanees, which by definition are gone by June). That would decimate the squad, and put us in a worse place than when we got promoted to the Premiership.
If the players have confidence in our plan, and see there being a good chance in returning to the Premier League the following season, is there any big attraction to joining one of the 3 newly promoted team to just be in another relegation battle?
There will be a draw to sign for one of the big 6 (only Delap stands any chance of that imo), and to a lesser extent one of the mid-table pack, but I don't see there being demand for many of our players from those clubs.
We'll know by the end of August, but I think your doomsday prediction is well off the mark. | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 12:58 - Apr 9 with 715 views | calcioconmattia_l |
No thank you I think we let go on £0 transfer | | | |
| Baggott to return? on 13:17 - Apr 9 with 679 views | LeoMuff |
| Baggott to return? on 09:35 - Apr 9 by SimonBatfordITFC |
I think you’re right. Many of our fans seem to have the impression that we will keep our squad of PL players in the Championship but I just can’t see it.
The players themselves have ambitions to play in PL and can now class themselves as having that experience on their CV. Most of them are young and will be good mid-table PL players in time. Their agents will already be looking for the move back to the PL.
Add to that the 3 teams coming up will all need to add squad players, ideally with some PL experience, but without breaking the bank for PSR. I’m afraid that means the 3 going down are likely to be the source of these transfers.
You only have to look at last year and the players Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton picked up from the relegated trio to see that this is the case.
To top it all off, many of the prospects we signed were highly coveted by Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose 9 or 10 regulars in the summer.
But dare to say it and you’ll be downvoted into the abyss. [Post edited 9 Apr 9:40]
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I know players hold a lot of power but at the end of the day we decide where they go if the are under contract, I would think we would try and hold on to a lot of our squad come what may. This always depends on what people are offering of course I would say Delap, Omari may well be sold, but who would offer significant increases on what we paid for Greaves, O Shea ? I can’t see us selling for a couple of million profit, the disruption is not worth it. | |
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| Baggott to return? on 15:06 - Apr 9 with 597 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Baggott to return? on 09:35 - Apr 9 by SimonBatfordITFC |
I think you’re right. Many of our fans seem to have the impression that we will keep our squad of PL players in the Championship but I just can’t see it.
The players themselves have ambitions to play in PL and can now class themselves as having that experience on their CV. Most of them are young and will be good mid-table PL players in time. Their agents will already be looking for the move back to the PL.
Add to that the 3 teams coming up will all need to add squad players, ideally with some PL experience, but without breaking the bank for PSR. I’m afraid that means the 3 going down are likely to be the source of these transfers.
You only have to look at last year and the players Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton picked up from the relegated trio to see that this is the case.
To top it all off, many of the prospects we signed were highly coveted by Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose 9 or 10 regulars in the summer.
But dare to say it and you’ll be downvoted into the abyss. [Post edited 9 Apr 9:40]
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Not sure I agree much at all, but 9 or 10 regulars would be well over £100 million in sales. We wouldn't want to but we could go again with that and then some. | | | |
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