| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. 19:05 - Aug 5 with 4667 views | homer_123 |
We can't really moan about it given we scuppered their original loan deal. |  |
| |  |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:16 - Aug 5 with 3403 views | RadioOrwell |
Couldn’t we just buy that random German bloke they are looking at if Akpom goes wrong ?
It’s a spin of the wheel at the end of the day. |  | | |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:16 - Aug 5 with 3392 views | ArnieM |
IF he was our primary target ? I dont know if he was, why the hell dudnt we get thus dine 3weeks ago. Why a loan and not an outright purchase?
If some people on here really think this is a slick, accomplished transfer window for us, id beg to differ. It comes across as chaotic, poorly planned, executed, and bumbling in nature.
As someone else on this forum has said elsewhere, maybe we should just target 38-49 yrs old in future as we have no problems signing that cohort. Wonder why that is. |  |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:19 - Aug 5 with 3296 views | homer_123 |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:16 - Aug 5 by ArnieM |
IF he was our primary target ? I dont know if he was, why the hell dudnt we get thus dine 3weeks ago. Why a loan and not an outright purchase?
If some people on here really think this is a slick, accomplished transfer window for us, id beg to differ. It comes across as chaotic, poorly planned, executed, and bumbling in nature.
As someone else on this forum has said elsewhere, maybe we should just target 38-49 yrs old in future as we have no problems signing that cohort. Wonder why that is. |
I posted on this yesterday Arnie.
Whilst the Akpom deal may 'feel' last minute and knee jerk it really isn't.
This is a player that was looking for a Prem move when coming back to the UK after being with Ajax and then Lille on loan. It's not until nearing the end of the window, with no Prem offers on the table, that he's prepared to consider the Championship. It's not a deal that could be done 3 weeks ago.
Like Hackney right now, holding out for a Prem move that is looking increasingly less likely to happen.
As to whether Akpom is a 'primary' target, we don't know. What is clear is that he's a player that will have been targeted by us and known to us - otherwise we wouldn't be interested. | |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:20 - Aug 5 with 3255 views | SouperJim |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:16 - Aug 5 by ArnieM |
IF he was our primary target ? I dont know if he was, why the hell dudnt we get thus dine 3weeks ago. Why a loan and not an outright purchase?
If some people on here really think this is a slick, accomplished transfer window for us, id beg to differ. It comes across as chaotic, poorly planned, executed, and bumbling in nature.
As someone else on this forum has said elsewhere, maybe we should just target 38-49 yrs old in future as we have no problems signing that cohort. Wonder why that is. |
No way of knowing where he placed on our list of potential targets and what other irons we had in the fire 3 weeks ago.
I suspect we prefer a loan to avoid giving a lucrative contract to a player which we will then be hamstrung by if we don't get promoted this season. Remains to be seen whether, assuming the latest reports are true, we'll now be prepared to take that risk in order to sign him permanently and gazump Birmingham again. |  |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:21 - Aug 5 with 3186 views | pointofblue |
I'm not sure if I'd say they played it well. Looking to pay £6m for a player who doesn't even want to be there? Rather them than us. |  |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:26 - Aug 5 with 3088 views | Herbivore |
Maybe short term, but if they manage to force Akpom to sign for them he might not be that chuffed. If they sign the German lad as well that'll be three forwards they've signed for decent money, all around 30, along with already having Stansfield as their main striker. Good luck keeping that lot happy. |  |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:29 - Aug 5 with 2992 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:16 - Aug 5 by ArnieM |
IF he was our primary target ? I dont know if he was, why the hell dudnt we get thus dine 3weeks ago. Why a loan and not an outright purchase?
If some people on here really think this is a slick, accomplished transfer window for us, id beg to differ. It comes across as chaotic, poorly planned, executed, and bumbling in nature.
As someone else on this forum has said elsewhere, maybe we should just target 38-49 yrs old in future as we have no problems signing that cohort. Wonder why that is. |
Not as chaotic as approaching a club to sign a player on loan, seeing him prefer to go to a divisional rival, get in a strop and decide they want to buy him instead. I know who's owners/chairman and management I'd rather have.
I suspect it's also partly about not allowing us to strengthen ahead of Friday. They'll probably give less of a feck from Sat. [Post edited 5 Aug 19:31]
|  |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:30 - Aug 5 with 2964 views | homer_123 |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:26 - Aug 5 by Herbivore |
Maybe short term, but if they manage to force Akpom to sign for them he might not be that chuffed. If they sign the German lad as well that'll be three forwards they've signed for decent money, all around 30, along with already having Stansfield as their main striker. Good luck keeping that lot happy. |
I'm thinking more the 'transfer game' Herbs.
I don't think Akpom will end up there but nice delaying tactics at the very least. | |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:31 - Aug 5 with 2932 views | homer_123 |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:21 - Aug 5 by pointofblue |
I'm not sure if I'd say they played it well. Looking to pay £6m for a player who doesn't even want to be there? Rather them than us. |
I think it's more just to delay/ frustrate etc. | |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:32 - Aug 5 with 2897 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
They haven’t played it well at all, they’re now potentially lumbered with a player who they know doesn’t want to be there, knowing full well that he wants to be here and will likely turn them down on that basis.
This isn’t about wanting Akpom, this is about Friday.
They’ve used Akpom to get a potential advantage, with no consideration of the player or the mental implications.
It’s fking disgusting what they’ve done truth be told. |  |
| |
| He was literally.... on 19:36 - Aug 5 with 2788 views | Bloots |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:32 - Aug 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
They haven’t played it well at all, they’re now potentially lumbered with a player who they know doesn’t want to be there, knowing full well that he wants to be here and will likely turn them down on that basis.
This isn’t about wanting Akpom, this is about Friday.
They’ve used Akpom to get a potential advantage, with no consideration of the player or the mental implications.
It’s fking disgusting what they’ve done truth be told. |
....on his way to sign for them before we stepped in, so he couldn't have been that "against" the idea.
Honestly, people are massively over reacting to this. |  |
| "Great to see you back on here mate, I was considering deactivating my account if you hadn’t returned" - TWTD User (Aug 2025) |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:39 - Aug 5 with 2716 views | homer_123 |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:32 - Aug 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
They haven’t played it well at all, they’re now potentially lumbered with a player who they know doesn’t want to be there, knowing full well that he wants to be here and will likely turn them down on that basis.
This isn’t about wanting Akpom, this is about Friday.
They’ve used Akpom to get a potential advantage, with no consideration of the player or the mental implications.
It’s fking disgusting what they’ve done truth be told. |
I'd have to disagree, what's their worst case scenario here?
They end up with a player they wanted in the first place (if he changes his mind and goes there)?
They mess us around for a few days before stepping back and he signs for us?
Mental implications - in all fairness, I don't think this is anything outside what players normally go through - as in they might have preferences of where they go but that doesn't always work out.
I think Brum are simply playing a game and he'll end up with us in the end but they've strung it out for a day or two in the run up to Friday.
All is fair in love and war. | |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:39 - Aug 5 with 2715 views | SouperJim |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:32 - Aug 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
They haven’t played it well at all, they’re now potentially lumbered with a player who they know doesn’t want to be there, knowing full well that he wants to be here and will likely turn them down on that basis.
This isn’t about wanting Akpom, this is about Friday.
They’ve used Akpom to get a potential advantage, with no consideration of the player or the mental implications.
It’s fking disgusting what they’ve done truth be told. |
Akpom is highly unlikely to do any more than get a few minutes off the bench for us, even if registered in time, surely? | |
| |
| He was literally.... on 19:40 - Aug 5 with 2677 views | homer_123 |
| He was literally.... on 19:36 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....on his way to sign for them before we stepped in, so he couldn't have been that "against" the idea.
Honestly, people are massively over reacting to this. |
People are somewhat forgetting the fact that had we not come in and bid, he'd be in Birmingham training with them quite happily. | |
| |
| He was literally.... on 19:40 - Aug 5 with 2672 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| He was literally.... on 19:36 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....on his way to sign for them before we stepped in, so he couldn't have been that "against" the idea.
Honestly, people are massively over reacting to this. |
Bloots. Do you think we’d have done that if his agent hadn’t told us he was open to it? | |
| |
| He was literally.... on 19:41 - Aug 5 with 2625 views | homer_123 |
| He was literally.... on 19:40 - Aug 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Bloots. Do you think we’d have done that if his agent hadn’t told us he was open to it? |
I think, Chelts, the point is he was happy to go to Brum.
Given the choice, he chose us.
But it's not like he refused Brum. | |
| |
| You're missing the point though..... on 19:44 - Aug 5 with 2570 views | Bloots |
| He was literally.... on 19:40 - Aug 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Bloots. Do you think we’d have done that if his agent hadn’t told us he was open to it? |
....he was going to sign for Birmingham.
To say that now because he might sign for them after all, has "mental implications" is just silly.
He's a footballer, this sort of thing happens all the time. I'm sure he'll cope with signing for the club he was gonna sign for 3 days ago anyway. | |
| "Great to see you back on here mate, I was considering deactivating my account if you hadn’t returned" - TWTD User (Aug 2025) |
| |
| He was literally.... on 19:45 - Aug 5 with 2538 views | Herbivore |
| He was literally.... on 19:41 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
I think, Chelts, the point is he was happy to go to Brum.
Given the choice, he chose us.
But it's not like he refused Brum. |
But he has now had the option to join us and mugged Birmingham off by not even going there. If they now take away the option of joining us, that's quite a different scenario to him just going there with us never having shown an interest.
Anyway, Al Hamidi to come on and score a late hattrick to rub it in their faces on Friday. | |
| |
| You're missing the point though..... on 19:46 - Aug 5 with 2533 views | Kieran_Knows |
| You're missing the point though..... on 19:44 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....he was going to sign for Birmingham.
To say that now because he might sign for them after all, has "mental implications" is just silly.
He's a footballer, this sort of thing happens all the time. I'm sure he'll cope with signing for the club he was gonna sign for 3 days ago anyway. |
… not also taking in to account that Ajax would no doubt give him half the £6m fee as a gesture to sign for Brum, as well as him securing himself a 3 year contract on decent money, rather than a year which ‘might’ lead to a 3 year deal should we get promoted.
If Brum are still making an offer for him it’s because he’s still happy to go there. |  |
| |
| Yep, the tendency.... on 19:47 - Aug 5 with 2492 views | Bloots |
| You're missing the point though..... on 19:46 - Aug 5 by Kieran_Knows |
… not also taking in to account that Ajax would no doubt give him half the £6m fee as a gesture to sign for Brum, as well as him securing himself a 3 year contract on decent money, rather than a year which ‘might’ lead to a 3 year deal should we get promoted.
If Brum are still making an offer for him it’s because he’s still happy to go there. |
....of many to only look at things from our perspective is quite funny! | |
| "Great to see you back on here mate, I was considering deactivating my account if you hadn’t returned" - TWTD User (Aug 2025) |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:50 - Aug 5 with 2429 views | MattinLondon |
The only club which hasn’t played it well at all is Ajax. If you’re one of his teammates and you see how he’s been treated then you’ll be taking notes. It’s one thing accepting offers for a player but possibly putting pressure (trying to bully) to go somewhere he doesn’t want to really go - not sure that’s the right way to go about things.
Saying that, football is totally ruthless so maybe his teammates will be expecting that kind of reaction from the club |  | | |
| He was literally.... on 19:51 - Aug 5 with 2384 views | homer_123 |
| He was literally.... on 19:45 - Aug 5 by Herbivore |
But he has now had the option to join us and mugged Birmingham off by not even going there. If they now take away the option of joining us, that's quite a different scenario to him just going there with us never having shown an interest.
Anyway, Al Hamidi to come on and score a late hattrick to rub it in their faces on Friday. |
Amen to the last sentence. | |
| |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 20:23 - Aug 5 with 2069 views | JeremiahBrown |
| Got to hand it to Brum, they've played that well. on 19:39 - Aug 5 by SouperJim |
Akpom is highly unlikely to do any more than get a few minutes off the bench for us, even if registered in time, surely? |
Well a Birmingham fan said that he would be their 3rd in line striker, so I doubt he would get many minutes with them. | | | |
| Yep, the tendency.... on 21:32 - Aug 5 with 1680 views | Rozz |
| Yep, the tendency.... on 19:47 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....of many to only look at things from our perspective is quite funny! |
Was trying to consider both sides of any potential offer last night.
Pro Ipswich: best odds chance of the original deal working out for all parties. Highest chance Ajax get their fee, albeit on a delayed basis. Player gets lucrative prem contract if successful. Player probs gets his Ajax wage for 1 year.
Cons Ipswich: Ajax will be likely paying % of reported wages for 1 year.
Pro Birmingham permanent: Ajax get money up front (6m + wage % for 1 year). Removed risk factor of instant success for us should we fail. Player gets security of (albeit reduced) 3 year deal.
Cons Birmingham permanent: player takes likely wage cut year 1, lesser odds of prem contract in year 1.
Obviously we don’t know the nuances of each deal but you can see how complex the pulls between club and player rest on probability of promotion. |  | | |
| Balanced. (n/t) on 21:34 - Aug 5 with 1623 views | Bloots |
| Yep, the tendency.... on 21:32 - Aug 5 by Rozz |
Was trying to consider both sides of any potential offer last night.
Pro Ipswich: best odds chance of the original deal working out for all parties. Highest chance Ajax get their fee, albeit on a delayed basis. Player gets lucrative prem contract if successful. Player probs gets his Ajax wage for 1 year.
Cons Ipswich: Ajax will be likely paying % of reported wages for 1 year.
Pro Birmingham permanent: Ajax get money up front (6m + wage % for 1 year). Removed risk factor of instant success for us should we fail. Player gets security of (albeit reduced) 3 year deal.
Cons Birmingham permanent: player takes likely wage cut year 1, lesser odds of prem contract in year 1.
Obviously we don’t know the nuances of each deal but you can see how complex the pulls between club and player rest on probability of promotion. |
| |
| "Great to see you back on here mate, I was considering deactivating my account if you hadn’t returned" - TWTD User (Aug 2025) |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
