| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. 11:10 - Sep 2 with 1714 views | FromReuserWithLove |
With our glut of right backs and the lucrative 4 year deal we have given Ben Johnson, how do we see this playing out? He is one of those players who has kind of suffered by being a bit of a useful utility man, maybe McKenna can mould him into a useful midfielder or an inverted left back to rotate with Leif a bit more.
Do we think he was one we would have like to have moved on or does McKenna potentially have a different development plan for him? |  | | |  |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:15 - Sep 2 with 1642 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
If a good offer came in I imagine he would have gone.
I thought last season he had flashes and could have been a good player at this level. I think he was so poor in the games he featured in, I would be even more scared in midfield, he just has 0 awareness. |  |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:17 - Sep 2 with 1621 views | Steve_M |
Quite possibly, his best position last season was the more hybrid right-sided role that he played excellently at Spurs for example. Not sure he's good enough on the ball to be an attacking full back or defensively solid enough to play as Axel did.
His physicality should be an asset in this division but he's one of several players yet to find a defined role in the side. Still time for that to develop as the season goes on but, yes, suspect we would have moved him on too had there been an offer. |  |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:19 - Sep 2 with 1596 views | TownieRob |
Without doubt he would have moved on, reading btween the lines I expect they believed there would be some interest for him.
I expect he will move on in January either on loan or on a Perm as we have a 40yr old who is better, signed Furlong who I hope is better and Harry Clarke who isnt any worse than BJ.
It hasnt worked. |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:21 - Sep 2 with 1566 views | DarkBrandon |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:19 - Sep 2 by TownieRob |
Without doubt he would have moved on, reading btween the lines I expect they believed there would be some interest for him.
I expect he will move on in January either on loan or on a Perm as we have a 40yr old who is better, signed Furlong who I hope is better and Harry Clarke who isnt any worse than BJ.
It hasnt worked. |
Shame really. He was one of our few signings to came with a reasonable amount of PL experience. |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:24 - Sep 2 with 1543 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I find it hard to give up on a 25YO who has played in a European Final after 1 season but he really has shown very very little.
Not just in the PL, he was distinctly average through the first three games of this season against opposition that he should be dealing with easily. | | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:25 - Sep 2 with 1532 views | TIB |
“Useful utility man” sums up his career doesn’t it?
I thought he filled in well at LB slot against Bromley. Yes it was L2 opposition, but he did a job. I wonder if he’s not quite hit the mark of what KM expected so he’ll be more of a rotation player. |  |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:29 - Sep 2 with 1435 views | davblue |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:24 - Sep 2 by Bellevue_Blue |
I find it hard to give up on a 25YO who has played in a European Final after 1 season but he really has shown very very little.
Not just in the PL, he was distinctly average through the first three games of this season against opposition that he should be dealing with easily. |
average is being very kind. I thought he was awful at Brum and Preston, didn't see much of the Southampton game, so can't comment. |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:31 - Sep 2 with 1405 views | FrimleyBlue |
Johnson reminds me of Myles Kenlock
When im reminded he had over 50 championship appearences, I think really
Kinda similar to Johnson..... prem appearences.... really! |  |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:33 - Sep 2 with 1380 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:25 - Sep 2 by TIB |
“Useful utility man” sums up his career doesn’t it?
I thought he filled in well at LB slot against Bromley. Yes it was L2 opposition, but he did a job. I wonder if he’s not quite hit the mark of what KM expected so he’ll be more of a rotation player. |
I think he's had a very comfortable footballers existence up to know. The 'Premier League' experience is a bit of a misnomer as most of it is from the bench, emergency cover and only about 60 games? at the age of 25. Furlong has nearly the same amount of experience in one season and a hell of a lot more overall.
Like has been said, he's shown flashes of being a decent footballer but he seems to lack any real character or substance. [Post edited 2 Sep 11:39]
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:37 - Sep 2 with 1348 views | mellowblue |
He shows flashes of form, like in the Spurs game and occasionally when he is subbed on to stretch a tiring defence, but generally, his defensive skills are pretty pour and he is not good enough to elsewhere. A decent utility man should be on a lot less given the 60k (thereabouts) a week wage we have probably carried on with from his West Ham days. Stealing a living. Yet unless we were to have massively covered his wage, he would have been impossible to move on. | | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 16:25 - Sep 2 with 905 views | Juggsy |
Just bang average at everything really. Not the brightest as the sending off at Newcastle showed and suffers from languid style that makes him appear a bit lazy. Could probably get away with it more if he wasn’t on a huge wage. |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 16:48 - Sep 2 with 784 views | bournemouthblue |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 16:25 - Sep 2 by Juggsy |
Just bang average at everything really. Not the brightest as the sending off at Newcastle showed and suffers from languid style that makes him appear a bit lazy. Could probably get away with it more if he wasn’t on a huge wage. |
He seems to have a massive lack of defensive awareness which is the most concerning element |  |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:39 - Sep 2 with 478 views | Smoresy |
Every so often he does something superbly, which makes me want us to persevere, but there are many more times when he seems to lack either focus or on-pitch IQ. Tuanzebe had this in spades and so too does Young, so I don't really see him regaining his starting place and it feels logical that Furlong was signed to replace him. | | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:43 - Sep 2 with 457 views | Swansea_Blue |
Very curious indeed. I don’t like slagging off players, so I’ll be polite and just say I was hoping for a bit more. Especially for someone deemed good enough to spend about the last 6/7 years and the whole of his career in the PL. He’s clearly a very good footballer by a lot of standards, but I can’t remember him impacting a game. He’s no mug, physically fit and seems a nice guy, but is that enough? |  |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:44 - Sep 2 with 448 views | waveneyblue |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 11:31 - Sep 2 by FrimleyBlue |
Johnson reminds me of Myles Kenlock
When im reminded he had over 50 championship appearences, I think really
Kinda similar to Johnson..... prem appearences.... really! |
I hope you are trying to be funny or possibly edgy, because this is a ridiculous take.
Sure Johnson hasn't been particulary good, but Kenlock bless him was particularly crap! |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:49 - Sep 2 with 424 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:44 - Sep 2 by waveneyblue |
I hope you are trying to be funny or possibly edgy, because this is a ridiculous take.
Sure Johnson hasn't been particulary good, but Kenlock bless him was particularly crap! |
The parallel works. Both seem to have over-achieved for parts of their careers, even if Johnson is obviously far superior.
I’m not giving up on Johnson yet though. Like much of the squad he needs to find his mojo. We may see a lot more from him if we ‘click’ and start getting some proper confidence back. | |
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| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:50 - Sep 2 with 407 views | Smoresy |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:43 - Sep 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Very curious indeed. I don’t like slagging off players, so I’ll be polite and just say I was hoping for a bit more. Especially for someone deemed good enough to spend about the last 6/7 years and the whole of his career in the PL. He’s clearly a very good footballer by a lot of standards, but I can’t remember him impacting a game. He’s no mug, physically fit and seems a nice guy, but is that enough? |
He grabbed the Forest cup game by the scruff of the neck for a ten-minute-or-so period before we equalised, alongside Morsy if memory serves, but that's one of the rare occasions I can remember him seriously impacting a game, beyond enjoying an isolated moment. | | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:55 - Sep 2 with 380 views | HighgateBlue |
I'm not sure we can really know what's going on.
Personally, I think that when a club has a huge financial advantage over almost all of its competitors, and it ends up with a squad that had 4 right backs and 1 left back, its supporters are owed an explanation.
It's hardly going to increase Johnson's confidence, for one thing.
I find it hard to criticise the guy. He actually realised that we needed to take a pop at goal if we were to score one. He missed the target sure, but at least he was reminding our attacking players what the hell needed to happen.
I don't mind the guy. The trouble is, Kieran has buried him under a sea of similarly competent competitors. Meanwhile on the other flank, Leif is buried under a sea of "please change your previously almost perfect attacking game for no reason".
Fullbacks ain't McKenna's strong suit. I suspect that 2023/24 is McKenna's strong suit. We'll see. |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 20:03 - Sep 2 with 329 views | WicklowBlue |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:50 - Sep 2 by Smoresy |
He grabbed the Forest cup game by the scruff of the neck for a ten-minute-or-so period before we equalised, alongside Morsy if memory serves, but that's one of the rare occasions I can remember him seriously impacting a game, beyond enjoying an isolated moment. |
From the games I've seen so far this season, my feeling is Johnson gets isolated out wide and too high easy for oppo to pings balls in behind. I feel he just needs to find his place as do others within the team and he'll do a job. i.e. knowing when to drop, when to hold based off the position of others.
Could say the same for others too. |  | | |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 21:01 - Sep 2 with 201 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The curious case of Benjamin Johnson. on 19:44 - Sep 2 by waveneyblue |
I hope you are trying to be funny or possibly edgy, because this is a ridiculous take.
Sure Johnson hasn't been particulary good, but Kenlock bless him was particularly crap! |
I'm not saying johnson Is the level of kenlock. I just mean for both players their performances don't match the number of games they played at a certain level.
Johnson for example does not look like a player with such a collection of prem appearences and kenlock never looked like a player who collected all his championship appearences. | |
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