| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:08 - Sep 6 with 3953 views | WD19 |
Weren’t there more games the year before…..So they may have made more than they would otherwise have done, but if so it is marginal and definitely not worth the hassle. |  | |  |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:26 - Sep 6 with 3853 views | bournemouthblue |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:08 - Sep 6 by WD19 |
Weren’t there more games the year before…..So they may have made more than they would otherwise have done, but if so it is marginal and definitely not worth the hassle. |
As you say it's misleading, there's four extra home games in the Championship |  |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:39 - Sep 6 with 3799 views | Zx1988 |
That's if you work on the assumption that the primary aim was to make more money.
My understanding was that there was a degree of seeking to reduce matchday congestion as well. |  |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 23:37 - Sep 6 with 3621 views | Dennyx4 |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:39 - Sep 6 by Zx1988 |
That's if you work on the assumption that the primary aim was to make more money.
My understanding was that there was a degree of seeking to reduce matchday congestion as well. |
If you believe that, they really have sold their lies to you. It was always about more revenue. |  | | |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 06:56 - Sep 7 with 3087 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
Looks like fewer cars but more money
Average stays are now 514.25 x 15 =7,713.75
Compared to 747.42 x 5.90 =4,409.778
Even if people paid the whole day price previously 747.42 x 7 =5,231.94 |  |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:29 - Sep 7 with 2877 views | bsw72 |
That’s bad reporting demonstrating little analysis of the actual underlying trends and true financial impact.
514 cars at £15 is £7,710, this is the avg car usage and cost from period analyzed in PL season.
747 cars at £7.50 is £5,602, this is avg car usage and cost from same period in prior year.
While car park usage has dropped by 31% like for like average return is in fact up by 37%.
The only reason overall costs were down is the simple detail of 17% less home matches in a PL season vs EFL. The lower revenue of £2K is actually a significant improvement as a 17% reduction on 23-24 revenue based in less matches would have been up to maybe around £9.5k.
Pretty basic economics people. |  | | |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:34 - Sep 7 with 2849 views | bsw72 |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:39 - Sep 6 by Zx1988 |
That's if you work on the assumption that the primary aim was to make more money.
My understanding was that there was a degree of seeking to reduce matchday congestion as well. |
No, it was done as the council knew that with less games in the PL there would be a significant reduction in revenue, and they calculated that even if matchday usage fell with a £15 cost, it would not drop enough vs the loss of 4 matchdays (23 in Champ vs 19 in PL). | | | |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:59 - Sep 7 with 2758 views | Zx1988 |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:34 - Sep 7 by bsw72 |
No, it was done as the council knew that with less games in the PL there would be a significant reduction in revenue, and they calculated that even if matchday usage fell with a £15 cost, it would not drop enough vs the loss of 4 matchdays (23 in Champ vs 19 in PL). |
Which is also a perfectly legitimate reason.
Local authorities have a moral and legal obligation to make the best possible use of their financial resources. The fact that they charged so much below the going rate for so long is, to my mind, a far bigger issue. | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 09:01 - Sep 7 with 2744 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 06:56 - Sep 7 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
Looks like fewer cars but more money
Average stays are now 514.25 x 15 =7,713.75
Compared to 747.42 x 5.90 =4,409.778
Even if people paid the whole day price previously 747.42 x 7 =5,231.94 |
I think there’s more to it than reported, unless the usage and income figures supplied in the FOI are simply wrong and unrelated for some reason. The overall money made figures reported aren’t a result of usage x cost. They’re miles out, so maybe there’s lots of special rates (are blue badge or motorcycles much lower rates, for example?). [Post edited 7 Sep 9:11]
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 10:56 - Sep 7 with 2472 views | stonojnr |
only if you assume the objective is to make more money.
and not reduce congestion and queuing around Portman Road on match days, which reduces pollution in the area.
or to try to encourage people to choose other forms of transport on matchdays
because of course if the car park was free to park, it would be full all the time and theyd make even less money...so money isnt really the point here, which alot of people seem to miss. | | | |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 12:12 - Sep 7 with 2324 views | Dennyx4 |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 10:56 - Sep 7 by stonojnr |
only if you assume the objective is to make more money.
and not reduce congestion and queuing around Portman Road on match days, which reduces pollution in the area.
or to try to encourage people to choose other forms of transport on matchdays
because of course if the car park was free to park, it would be full all the time and theyd make even less money...so money isnt really the point here, which alot of people seem to miss. |
Money is exactly the point.
If it was pollution or other transport forms, why not invest in a better more frequent park and ride?
Run cheaper public transport?
This was solely about raising more money. | | | |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 16:20 - Sep 7 with 1970 views | Edmundo |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:34 - Sep 7 by bsw72 |
No, it was done as the council knew that with less games in the PL there would be a significant reduction in revenue, and they calculated that even if matchday usage fell with a £15 cost, it would not drop enough vs the loss of 4 matchdays (23 in Champ vs 19 in PL). |
Interesting they aren't dropping the cost at all now we're relegated. Like all councils, they are run abysmally, especially economically: how many times do you see the same job done twice or even 3 times, and that's before we talk about Icelandic banks |  |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 16:57 - Sep 7 with 1895 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 16:20 - Sep 7 by Edmundo |
Interesting they aren't dropping the cost at all now we're relegated. Like all councils, they are run abysmally, especially economically: how many times do you see the same job done twice or even 3 times, and that's before we talk about Icelandic banks |
Why would they drop the price for relegation? |  |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 18:32 - Sep 7 with 1744 views | Edmundo |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 16:57 - Sep 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Why would they drop the price for relegation? |
More games: 60 quid more for anyone parking there this season for every game.
I personally don't park there (I tend to walk from the top of Christchurch Park), but there are plenty of older folk - who don't qualify for a Blue badge - who park there out of necessity. | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 19:11 - Sep 7 with 1685 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 16:57 - Sep 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Why would they drop the price for relegation? |
To make more money, assuming to revenue totals in that article are true. | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 19:41 - Sep 7 with 1603 views | Zx1988 |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 18:32 - Sep 7 by Edmundo |
More games: 60 quid more for anyone parking there this season for every game.
I personally don't park there (I tend to walk from the top of Christchurch Park), but there are plenty of older folk - who don't qualify for a Blue badge - who park there out of necessity. |
If they don't qualify for a blue badge, they're not parking there out of necessity. | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:28 - Sep 7 with 1336 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 19:11 - Sep 7 by Swansea_Blue |
To make more money, assuming to revenue totals in that article are true. |
They made £2k less from a season with considerably less games - clearly the price increase does make more money as everyone else that’s responded on the thread seems to have grasped | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:51 - Sep 7 with 1271 views | bournemouthblue |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 12:12 - Sep 7 by Dennyx4 |
Money is exactly the point.
If it was pollution or other transport forms, why not invest in a better more frequent park and ride?
Run cheaper public transport?
This was solely about raising more money. |
The Borough don't run the Park and Ride, which would be the problem there | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:25 - Sep 8 with 992 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:26 - Sep 6 by bournemouthblue |
As you say it's misleading, there's four extra home games in the Championship |
But the figures in the article work on takings per match, so how is that misleading?! |  |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:55 - Sep 8 with 903 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:28 - Sep 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
They made £2k less from a season with considerably less games - clearly the price increase does make more money as everyone else that’s responded on the thread seems to have grasped |
Before price increase = £56,797.02
After price increase = £54,676.89
It’s been a long time since I did any formal maths, but to me that looks like they made more money before the increase. | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 09:22 - Sep 8 with 837 views | _clive_baker_ |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:29 - Sep 7 by bsw72 |
That’s bad reporting demonstrating little analysis of the actual underlying trends and true financial impact.
514 cars at £15 is £7,710, this is the avg car usage and cost from period analyzed in PL season.
747 cars at £7.50 is £5,602, this is avg car usage and cost from same period in prior year.
While car park usage has dropped by 31% like for like average return is in fact up by 37%.
The only reason overall costs were down is the simple detail of 17% less home matches in a PL season vs EFL. The lower revenue of £2K is actually a significant improvement as a 17% reduction on 23-24 revenue based in less matches would have been up to maybe around £9.5k.
Pretty basic economics people. |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 10:01 - Sep 8 with 777 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 22:28 - Sep 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
They made £2k less from a season with considerably less games - clearly the price increase does make more money as everyone else that’s responded on the thread seems to have grasped |
Fewer!!
Can no-one speak English on here?! | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 19:05 - Sep 8 with 123 views | bournemouthblue |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 08:25 - Sep 8 by Wallingford_Boy |
But the figures in the article work on takings per match, so how is that misleading?! |
The takings per match are up, it's the number of games that have dropped? | |
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| The Portman Road car park price hike on 19:42 - Sep 8 with 54 views | Trequartista |
| The Portman Road car park price hike on 10:01 - Sep 8 by Wallingford_Boy |
Fewer!!
Can no-one speak English on here?! |
Unless they physically counted out 2,000 pound coins, "less" is correct. |  |
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