| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:01 - Feb 8 with 1751 views | Swansea_Blue |
It was under Blair’s PMship. Byers was Sec of State for Bus & Trade in the first half 2001, Hewitt 2nd half, so it depends exactly when he was appointed in that year.
He was getting loads of stick before it looked like he might have been a paedo.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-12
“Prince Andrew attracted much criticism, but his private secretary said it was "without foundation"”
Ha, lol. His private secretary deserves a pay rise. [Post edited 8 Feb 19:02]
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:02 - Feb 8 with 1750 views | BlueBadger |
Would this be the way you're thinking of?
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:02 - Feb 8 with 1744 views | bsw72 |
I do wonder with all this how much is done under the (verbal) pressure of potential blackmail from Epstein.
That is not meant in anyway to defend any of the wrongdoing of these people but considering what Epstein may have held on all these people it would explain why people have behaved so stupidly with something like email.
Maybe I’m crediting Andrew and Mandleson with a better understanding of how all electronic comms lives forever in this world. |  | | |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:03 - Feb 8 with 1735 views | catch74 |
I imagining appointed by Blair pushed heavily by Mandelson? |  |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:04 - Feb 8 with 1730 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:02 - Feb 8 by BlueBadger |
Would this be the way you're thinking of?
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I was thinking of something more drastic. Consign them to another sort of box - one at Carrow Road. Damned for eternity then rather than a quick and painless death. | |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:07 - Feb 8 with 1694 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Why do people pretend that behaviour like this isn't bread and butter for these self appointed elites? It's just what they do and will continue to do if we continue to be a nation of cap doffers, the next act of which will be to vote in Farage. |  |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:09 - Feb 8 with 1689 views | Dubtractor |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:02 - Feb 8 by bsw72 |
I do wonder with all this how much is done under the (verbal) pressure of potential blackmail from Epstein.
That is not meant in anyway to defend any of the wrongdoing of these people but considering what Epstein may have held on all these people it would explain why people have behaved so stupidly with something like email.
Maybe I’m crediting Andrew and Mandleson with a better understanding of how all electronic comms lives forever in this world. |
The sheer number of pictures, for things that seem a bad idea to document, does suggest an element of that.
I'm thinking it's part that, and partly just Andrew and co being seen as useful idiots. |  |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:10 - Feb 8 with 1682 views | bluelagos |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:02 - Feb 8 by BlueBadger |
Would this be the way you're thinking of?
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I'm a moderate republican.
Get shot (not literally) and issue a back dated invoice for all the freebies for the past 1000 years. Tax too....sod the 6 yr nonsense. |  |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:11 - Feb 8 with 1671 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:07 - Feb 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Why do people pretend that behaviour like this isn't bread and butter for these self appointed elites? It's just what they do and will continue to do if we continue to be a nation of cap doffers, the next act of which will be to vote in Farage. |
The Epstein files certainly confirms as much. Some of the stuff coming out today is beyond disgusting 🤮. | |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:11 - Feb 8 with 1665 views | BlueBadger |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:04 - Feb 8 by Swansea_Blue |
I was thinking of something more drastic. Consign them to another sort of box - one at Carrow Road. Damned for eternity then rather than a quick and painless death. |
Ooof. Pretty sure that comes under 'cruel and unusual punishment'. | |
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| Robin Cook? Jack Straw......? on 19:13 - Feb 8 with 1642 views | Bloots |
.....one of them, along with Stephen Byers or Patricia Hewitt.
Overseen by Blair and Mandelson I presume.
Thatcher's Britain! |  |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:13 - Feb 8 with 1638 views | GlasgowBlue |
Blair. But it's a bit late to call for his resignation. |  |
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| Robin Cook? Jack Straw......? on 19:14 - Feb 8 with 1622 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Robin Cook? Jack Straw......? on 19:13 - Feb 8 by Bloots |
.....one of them, along with Stephen Byers or Patricia Hewitt.
Overseen by Blair and Mandelson I presume.
Thatcher's Britain! |
All cut from the same cloth! | |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:15 - Feb 8 with 1626 views | bluelagos |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:07 - Feb 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Why do people pretend that behaviour like this isn't bread and butter for these self appointed elites? It's just what they do and will continue to do if we continue to be a nation of cap doffers, the next act of which will be to vote in Farage. |
The idea that Farage is the answer to anything is laughable.
But the gullible idiots who think some brown bloke on a dingy is the cause of our country's failings is quite something. | |
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| Robin Cook? Jack Straw......? on 19:17 - Feb 8 with 1595 views | bluelagos |
| Robin Cook? Jack Straw......? on 19:13 - Feb 8 by Bloots |
.....one of them, along with Stephen Byers or Patricia Hewitt.
Overseen by Blair and Mandelson I presume.
Thatcher's Britain! |
Not convinced any of them was responsible for the Monarchy but have an open mind on the issue... | |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:34 - Feb 24 with 930 views | bluelagos |
The UK govt only 2 weeks behind TWTD :-)
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:40 - Feb 24 with 885 views | DJR |
Who said this in 2011, in response to a question by Paul Flynn, a republican, who used the debate to criticise the fact that, under parliamentary rules, he could not say anything critical of Prince Andrew, as he was at the time?
"I, for one, believe that the Duke of York does an excellent job as the UK’s special representative for international trade and investment …. During [his time as trade envoy] he has been a long-standing success in the role, representing a continued interest on the part of the royal family in supporting British business and international trade and investment … Many who have worked with the duke have found that he is a real asset for our country in supporting UK business."
The answer is Ed Davey, and this is just one of a number of things from his previous life that has come back to bite him. And rather ironic/hypocritical given that the motion today is a Lib Dem one.
I suppose it just goes to show that doff-capping is a pre-requisite of being in government or otherwise part of the establishment.
And look what happens when someone tries to make a stand.
https://www.express.co.uk/news [Post edited 24 Feb 11:56]
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:46 - Feb 24 with 843 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 19:02 - Feb 8 by bsw72 |
I do wonder with all this how much is done under the (verbal) pressure of potential blackmail from Epstein.
That is not meant in anyway to defend any of the wrongdoing of these people but considering what Epstein may have held on all these people it would explain why people have behaved so stupidly with something like email.
Maybe I’m crediting Andrew and Mandleson with a better understanding of how all electronic comms lives forever in this world. |
There hasn’t been any evidence that he received any cash payment from Epstein. Must be blackmail or benefit in kind. |  |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:54 - Feb 24 with 803 views | bluelagos |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:46 - Feb 24 by Pinewoodblue |
There hasn’t been any evidence that he received any cash payment from Epstein. Must be blackmail or benefit in kind. |
There is evidence a Kazak dood paid Andrew £3m over asking price for a property he never used.
Given the plod are now running their eyes over his comms from his time as trade envoy, it is quite plausible that more will come out... | |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 12:14 - Feb 24 with 710 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:40 - Feb 24 by DJR |
Who said this in 2011, in response to a question by Paul Flynn, a republican, who used the debate to criticise the fact that, under parliamentary rules, he could not say anything critical of Prince Andrew, as he was at the time?
"I, for one, believe that the Duke of York does an excellent job as the UK’s special representative for international trade and investment …. During [his time as trade envoy] he has been a long-standing success in the role, representing a continued interest on the part of the royal family in supporting British business and international trade and investment … Many who have worked with the duke have found that he is a real asset for our country in supporting UK business."
The answer is Ed Davey, and this is just one of a number of things from his previous life that has come back to bite him. And rather ironic/hypocritical given that the motion today is a Lib Dem one.
I suppose it just goes to show that doff-capping is a pre-requisite of being in government or otherwise part of the establishment.
And look what happens when someone tries to make a stand.
https://www.express.co.uk/news [Post edited 24 Feb 11:56]
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It’s interesting that the Speaker has allowed the debate now because Andrew has been stripped of his titles, so those normal rules no longer apply. That’s part of the reason why I think this won’t have a wider bearing on the Royals. They’ve effectively cut him off and removed his protections, which stay very much in place for the rest of them. | |
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 13:36 - Feb 24 with 509 views | soupytwist |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 11:40 - Feb 24 by DJR |
Who said this in 2011, in response to a question by Paul Flynn, a republican, who used the debate to criticise the fact that, under parliamentary rules, he could not say anything critical of Prince Andrew, as he was at the time?
"I, for one, believe that the Duke of York does an excellent job as the UK’s special representative for international trade and investment …. During [his time as trade envoy] he has been a long-standing success in the role, representing a continued interest on the part of the royal family in supporting British business and international trade and investment … Many who have worked with the duke have found that he is a real asset for our country in supporting UK business."
The answer is Ed Davey, and this is just one of a number of things from his previous life that has come back to bite him. And rather ironic/hypocritical given that the motion today is a Lib Dem one.
I suppose it just goes to show that doff-capping is a pre-requisite of being in government or otherwise part of the establishment.
And look what happens when someone tries to make a stand.
https://www.express.co.uk/news [Post edited 24 Feb 11:56]
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There's a clip floating around of Boris Johnson on LBC at the time saying much the same as Ed Davey.
Toe the line or risk . . . what exactly? |  | | |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 14:43 - Feb 24 with 386 views | DJR |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 13:36 - Feb 24 by soupytwist |
There's a clip floating around of Boris Johnson on LBC at the time saying much the same as Ed Davey.
Toe the line or risk . . . what exactly? |
And what about this?
Chris Bryant says Tory ministers and prominent journalists were defending Andrew in 2011 when warning signs already clear
In a reference to Ed Davey (see 9.06am), Bryant said that there were some people now saying, with reference to Mountbatten-Windsor, “if only we had known then what we know now”. He went on:
"But I’m afraid that with me that doesn’t wash. We did actually have plenty of warning.
I called on the then prime minister, David Cameron, to dispense with the services of the then Duke of York in this chamber on 28 February 2011 because of his close friendship with Saif Gaddafi, as has just been referred to, and [a] convicted Libyan gun smuggler. I was rebuked by Speaker Bercow then for doing so because references to members of the royal family should be very rare, very sparing and very respectful."
(Bryant is right to say he was warning about Andrew 15 years ago. I covered this at the time on the live blog.)
Bryant said he repeatedly called for Andrew to lose his trade envoy job, over his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and the mysteriously excessive payment he received for the sale of his home, among other reasons.
But he said David Cameron, the then PM, Theresa May, the then home secretary, and many others defended Andrew.
He said that John Humphrys, the broadcaster, told him on the Today programme at the time that Epstein “wasn’t quite a paedophile, drawing a distinction between sexual abuse of prepubescent and other children”. And he said that Dominic Lawson also defended Andrew in his Sunday Times column, making “the same distinction between Epstein’s involvement with teenage girls and paedophilia since, as he put it, none of the girls was prepubescent”. But Lawson “did at least admit that both were sordid and exploitative”, Bryant said.
Bryant said this was happening after the photograph of Andrew with his arm around Virginia Giuffre was published. [Post edited 24 Feb 14:44]
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| Who appointed this tosser? on 14:51 - Feb 24 with 356 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
| Who appointed this tosser? on 12:14 - Feb 24 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s interesting that the Speaker has allowed the debate now because Andrew has been stripped of his titles, so those normal rules no longer apply. That’s part of the reason why I think this won’t have a wider bearing on the Royals. They’ve effectively cut him off and removed his protections, which stay very much in place for the rest of them. |
Its interesting that some MP's are asking for the right to allow criticism of the royals! |  |
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