| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? 13:17 - Mar 3 with 2772 views | mattyboar |
Is it because it’s a rearranged game and ppl already had plans, supporters not engaged enough in this seasons promotion push (not as big a story as 23/24 but we’re in an exciting promotion chase), people just love to watch it on tv or something else?
It can’t be the price (for this game anyway) as it’s £25 - any ideas?
This isn’t a dig post, I’m just curious on people’s thoughts. I think it’s a combo of easer of tv and apathy hangover from last season. |  | | |  |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:21 - Mar 3 with 2118 views | SitfcB |
Loads of season ticket holders can’t be bothered for midweek games. |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:26 - Mar 3 with 2056 views | Zx1988 |
Rearranged game, on Sky, and in the middle of a three-game week.
Even at £25, three games in a week is an expensive old thing. | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:28 - Mar 3 with 2036 views | ParisBlue |
I don't think we should be in too much of a hurry to knock down the Cobbold. Even in 23/24 tickets were available throughout except for Huddersfield on the final day (plus Norwich).
I think a lot hinges on promotion this season and a return to the PL (joy...) in relation to what crowds look like over the next 3-5 years.
As for tonight, 3 home games in 8 days probably affects things, plus the normal drop off of a midweek game. Watford and Stoke were both 27k, Bristol City 25k. |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:28 - Mar 3 with 2023 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:21 - Mar 3 by SitfcB |
Loads of season ticket holders can’t be bothered for midweek games. |
I can be bothered - it's just I can't practically get there and back in one evening on a school-night. |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:34 - Mar 3 with 1968 views | Illinoisblue |
Previous promotion seasons for comparison:
1991-92: average home league crowd 14,334
1999-00: average home league crowd: 18,524
2023-24: average home league crowd: 28,845 |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:35 - Mar 3 with 1938 views | Illinoisblue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:28 - Mar 3 by ParisBlue |
I don't think we should be in too much of a hurry to knock down the Cobbold. Even in 23/24 tickets were available throughout except for Huddersfield on the final day (plus Norwich).
I think a lot hinges on promotion this season and a return to the PL (joy...) in relation to what crowds look like over the next 3-5 years.
As for tonight, 3 home games in 8 days probably affects things, plus the normal drop off of a midweek game. Watford and Stoke were both 27k, Bristol City 25k. |
The Cobbold HAS to be torn down at some point. Over 50 years old. | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:43 - Mar 3 with 1894 views | ParisBlue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:35 - Mar 3 by Illinoisblue |
The Cobbold HAS to be torn down at some point. Over 50 years old. |
Yep, mainly because the business case is to increase revenue outside of match days. Increasing the capacity to 40k as has been mooted seems a lot whilst we're in the Championship (I don't want us to be one of those clubs that doesn't open certain parts of the stadium on matchdays).
In truth 33k-35k will suffice, and until we're back in the PL, I don't think there's an immediate need (probably a next decade thing) | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:43 - Mar 3 with 1886 views | HungryLikeTheWoolf |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:35 - Mar 3 by Illinoisblue |
The Cobbold HAS to be torn down at some point. Over 50 years old. |
and most of the seats available on general sale, especially in the Co-op and Cobbold are restricted view |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:45 - Mar 3 with 1857 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:43 - Mar 3 by HungryLikeTheWoolf |
and most of the seats available on general sale, especially in the Co-op and Cobbold are restricted view |
I returned a pair, today, of unrestricted-view season-ticket seats in Section A of the Cobbold. | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:47 - Mar 3 with 1831 views | Blooos |
Realistically we only have about 15k loyal supporters at most. 10-15k of our home attendance wasnt there 5-10 years ago. Obviously all turned up over the last couple years and 2 years ago was more exciting.. this season we've dropped off (not sure bar Norwich weve sold out a single home game??) | | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:48 - Mar 3 with 1824 views | Illinoisblue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:43 - Mar 3 by ParisBlue |
Yep, mainly because the business case is to increase revenue outside of match days. Increasing the capacity to 40k as has been mooted seems a lot whilst we're in the Championship (I don't want us to be one of those clubs that doesn't open certain parts of the stadium on matchdays).
In truth 33k-35k will suffice, and until we're back in the PL, I don't think there's an immediate need (probably a next decade thing) |
Agree 40k is too much. 36k seems about right. Timing of reconstruction is the hard part. As we see with Wrexham, they’re having their best season in history but only have three stands. | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:49 - Mar 3 with 1812 views | EastTownBlue |
Midweek matches aren’t as well attended. We seem to benefit from home support that a number travel long distances that make midweek matches more difficult. I suppose the season ticket resell platform has made the available seats more obvious now.
An example from a previous season, Bristol City 5/3/24 - 28,001. | | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:50 - Mar 3 with 1782 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:21 - Mar 3 by SitfcB |
Loads of season ticket holders can’t be bothered for midweek games. |
Many season ticket holders live away from Ipswich, others will not take young children to midweek home games.
Your comment is disingenuous. |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:51 - Mar 3 with 1774 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:43 - Mar 3 by ParisBlue |
Yep, mainly because the business case is to increase revenue outside of match days. Increasing the capacity to 40k as has been mooted seems a lot whilst we're in the Championship (I don't want us to be one of those clubs that doesn't open certain parts of the stadium on matchdays).
In truth 33k-35k will suffice, and until we're back in the PL, I don't think there's an immediate need (probably a next decade thing) |
If the owners meet their objectives, imo we'll need to be close to 40k by 2032 - so the planning has begun, and the stepping stones to get there being built. It will be phases, not one big jump, which is prudent, allowing the plans to be adjusted / scaled back if the next 6 years don't go to plan. | | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:51 - Mar 3 with 1758 views | Dennyx4 |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:49 - Mar 3 by EastTownBlue |
Midweek matches aren’t as well attended. We seem to benefit from home support that a number travel long distances that make midweek matches more difficult. I suppose the season ticket resell platform has made the available seats more obvious now.
An example from a previous season, Bristol City 5/3/24 - 28,001. |
I thought season ticket sales counted towards attendance, even if not in attendance? |  | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:54 - Mar 3 with 1721 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:51 - Mar 3 by Dennyx4 |
I thought season ticket sales counted towards attendance, even if not in attendance? |
They count towards attendance, but people will be looking at what tickets are available on the seat map right now, and that will include/show season ticket seats handed back for resale. | | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:58 - Mar 3 with 1677 views | blueislander |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:54 - Mar 3 by SuffolkPunchFC |
They count towards attendance, but people will be looking at what tickets are available on the seat map right now, and that will include/show season ticket seats handed back for resale. |
Is it a case of those who just turn up get counted, but those offered for re sale don’t. | | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:01 - Mar 3 with 1652 views | Guthrum |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:43 - Mar 3 by ParisBlue |
Yep, mainly because the business case is to increase revenue outside of match days. Increasing the capacity to 40k as has been mooted seems a lot whilst we're in the Championship (I don't want us to be one of those clubs that doesn't open certain parts of the stadium on matchdays).
In truth 33k-35k will suffice, and until we're back in the PL, I don't think there's an immediate need (probably a next decade thing) |
Thing is, it's much more efficient (cost, design, planning) to build on a larger scale in one go, than to do some now and a bit more later.
Not sure how easy it would be to make areas which can be used for commercial/entertainment purposes currently, but could be converted to seating at a later date. Can't imagine it would work structurally. |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:04 - Mar 3 with 1626 views | ghostofescobar |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 13:35 - Mar 3 by Illinoisblue |
The Cobbold HAS to be torn down at some point. Over 50 years old. |
Can’t it be gently removed, rather than torn down? |  |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:06 - Mar 3 with 1609 views | Whos_blue |
Is it because the wheels have come off and we're doomed to failure? |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:14 - Mar 3 with 1559 views | Guthrum |
Just had a quick count up of seats available in the main sections of each stand (I may have missed a few in the smaller areas).
SBR 142 available
SAR 793 available
West 1,181 available
Cobbold 414 available
Giving a total of 2,530
That's not very many really, when you look at most grounds in the division and how things were for us only a few years ago. Plus some of those might be snapped up by people making a late decision to go. | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:16 - Mar 3 with 1518 views | grow_our_own |
Midweek train tickets costing more than double vs weekend doesn't help. | | | |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:27 - Mar 3 with 1453 views | SheffordBlue |
I think after Ashton's comments about people relisting their season tickets the number of people doing this rather than just not going has probably gone up. If so this will have increased the number of available tickets without changing the attendance (if you don't bother to use your season ticket it still counts as someone being there).
I think that's one of the reasons why attendance has dropped even when it looks like the same number of people are in the ground. | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:33 - Mar 3 with 1377 views | Illinoisblue |
| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:04 - Mar 3 by ghostofescobar |
Can’t it be gently removed, rather than torn down? |
If you know some builders with soft hands, have at it! | |
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| Hull tickets - why so many spare seats? on 14:38 - Mar 3 with 1349 views | Vaughan8 |
It's got to be midweek and people can't get there, or would have to leave work early/take half a day.
The fact all midweek games are on Sky is another reason not to rush about after work to get there even if you live more local.
You can make the tickets whatever price you want but if people can't get there, they won't go. I'll be honest until last week I didn't even realise the tickets were £25.
I think the £38 a ticket normally charged certainly puts people off. For a few of us to go will cost the best part of £150. We go to our local team which is £7 each and even with a few pints is £15 each. It's probably the stage I'm at in my life that its hard to take pretty much a whole day to come to a football match (I know this isn't for tonight, just a general point) | | | |
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