| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands 10:56 - Mar 31 with 5232 views | breezy_runner |
Seeing talk of a protest being held before the game against Birmingham, trying to start chants of "Ashton out" during the game.
Can't we just put aside any political opinions we have and put all our efforts into supporting the team?
We need to pull together as one! |  | | |  |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 10:59 - Mar 31 with 2677 views | portmanking |
You're right, it's getting ridiculous, isn't it?
FFS, focus on the players. Not to mention McKenna, who works around the clock to give OUR team world-class coaching.
Yes, Ashton's position is fragile at best. Yes, it could've been handled MUCH differently. But the time for inquests is the close season, NOT NOW! | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:05 - Mar 31 with 2615 views | Wright1 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 10:59 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
You're right, it's getting ridiculous, isn't it?
FFS, focus on the players. Not to mention McKenna, who works around the clock to give OUR team world-class coaching.
Yes, Ashton's position is fragile at best. Yes, it could've been handled MUCH differently. But the time for inquests is the close season, NOT NOW! |
I can't agree sorry. The time is now or probably never. If you think any sort of fan movement would happen or carry any weight after that much time has passed and during a period where there are no games, I think you are sorely mistaken. I would guess you probably know that deep down and probably don't think it actually important. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:09 - Mar 31 with 2580 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:05 - Mar 31 by Wright1 |
I can't agree sorry. The time is now or probably never. If you think any sort of fan movement would happen or carry any weight after that much time has passed and during a period where there are no games, I think you are sorely mistaken. I would guess you probably know that deep down and probably don't think it actually important. |
No, I don't "know that deep down".
I just don't want Ashton or politics to derail our promotion bid. If the strength of feeling remains in June, it will carry just as much weight as it does in March.
I'd much rather unite around the team and Kieran, get promoted, and see a change at the top with us as a Premier League club. NOT looking back at a failed playoff campaign due to a disunited fan base. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:10]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:12 - Mar 31 with 2545 views | JimmyJazz |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:05 - Mar 31 by Wright1 |
I can't agree sorry. The time is now or probably never. If you think any sort of fan movement would happen or carry any weight after that much time has passed and during a period where there are no games, I think you are sorely mistaken. I would guess you probably know that deep down and probably don't think it actually important. |
I think a lot of fans don't think we can have both success on the pitch and a revolution in the CEO role. It feels like a case of one or the other, and possibly neither if protests destabilise the season and achieve nothing
I know what i would prefer, success on the pitch and a promotion at the end of the season
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:12 - Mar 31 with 2546 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Yes. We can.
All it needs is for Ashton to resign or be removed by the owners.
The ball is in their court.
Until then too many are not prepared to pull together as one for Reform FC. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:14 - Mar 31 with 2510 views | NedPlimpton |
What about our opinions on being lied to by our CEO/Chairman? I'd rather not put those aside |  | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:15 - Mar 31 with 2509 views | positivity |
1) it's not political opinions, it's being made a national (international now?) laughing stock, being misled by the ceo and chairman, then the incompetent cover-up
2) not seen many saying we should chant ashton out during the game, personally don't see a problem with protests before or after
my own view as that we should be united behind the team and the manager for the 90 minutes. similarly, any divisive pro-farage chants should be shouted down immediately at source | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:16 - Mar 31 with 2497 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:12 - Mar 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Yes. We can.
All it needs is for Ashton to resign or be removed by the owners.
The ball is in their court.
Until then too many are not prepared to pull together as one for Reform FC. |
Reform FC is *such* a childish way to view it.
The club is OURS, not Ashton's. Feck him. It's about us, our players and Kieran.
Ashton will face the music, but you anyone thinking you can fire your club's sole football administrator/figurehead and it not impacting the club day-to-day (in the most important month of the season) is sheer lunacy. | | | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:17 - Mar 31 with 2491 views | TheMoralMajority |
I've said before, but will say again.
I don't think supporting the team and holding the leadership accountable are mutually exclusive.
For me, this is not about politics, it's about trust.
The team will continue to receive my 100% support. Those at the top of the club... less so. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:20 - Mar 31 with 2447 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:16 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Reform FC is *such* a childish way to view it.
The club is OURS, not Ashton's. Feck him. It's about us, our players and Kieran.
Ashton will face the music, but you anyone thinking you can fire your club's sole football administrator/figurehead and it not impacting the club day-to-day (in the most important month of the season) is sheer lunacy. |
Don't you think that picture is going to be everywhere forever now? What do you think it says?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC.
We had the Sheeran and Wardley links.
Now we have an official link with Farage and Reform. It isn't even him choosing to do it off his own back. It is a club-instigated partnership. | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:20 - Mar 31 with 2443 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:16 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Reform FC is *such* a childish way to view it.
The club is OURS, not Ashton's. Feck him. It's about us, our players and Kieran.
Ashton will face the music, but you anyone thinking you can fire your club's sole football administrator/figurehead and it not impacting the club day-to-day (in the most important month of the season) is sheer lunacy. |
ashton may not "face the music" if there's no pressure on him.
i can't see how him being sacked now will affect the run-in in a negative way, the plans will be in place already and will be actioned by people much further down the food chain | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:22 - Mar 31 with 2423 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:20 - Mar 31 by positivity |
ashton may not "face the music" if there's no pressure on him.
i can't see how him being sacked now will affect the run-in in a negative way, the plans will be in place already and will be actioned by people much further down the food chain |
He would be replaced. We need to appoint a separate chairman and replace the CEO.
His position is untenable. | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:22 - Mar 31 with 2410 views | thebooks |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 10:59 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
You're right, it's getting ridiculous, isn't it?
FFS, focus on the players. Not to mention McKenna, who works around the clock to give OUR team world-class coaching.
Yes, Ashton's position is fragile at best. Yes, it could've been handled MUCH differently. But the time for inquests is the close season, NOT NOW! |
Sorry, no. The pressure should be put on Ashton to leave, not on fans to suck it up. That is the single thing that would fix this problem. |  | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:23 - Mar 31 with 2397 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:20 - Mar 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Don't you think that picture is going to be everywhere forever now? What do you think it says?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC.
We had the Sheeran and Wardley links.
Now we have an official link with Farage and Reform. It isn't even him choosing to do it off his own back. It is a club-instigated partnership. |
Why would it be everywhere forever? Will Sunderland be known as Reform FC too then?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC because they have famous Hollywood owners, right? We were visited and manipulated by a divisive politician, but official links?! Absolutely not. He's not "one of us". We don't need to catastrophise. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:26 - Mar 31 with 2360 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:22 - Mar 31 by thebooks |
Sorry, no. The pressure should be put on Ashton to leave, not on fans to suck it up. That is the single thing that would fix this problem. |
For the last fecking time. I'm not asking ANYONE to suck it up.
But park the issue for a short time for the good of OUR club. Him resigning would leave us in a big pickle from an ownership/administrative point of view. At least with an important part of the season to play.
I repeat. The time for facing the music/replacements is the close season. Some of you have got to start seeing this as adults rather than stamping your feet, kicking and screaming. As Blue Monday Podcast said, Ashton hasn't done "anything illegal" that's an immediately sackable offence. However, he's tarnished his rep and trust from the fanbase, which is likely irreparable. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:26]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:28 - Mar 31 with 2305 views | GlasgowBlue |
Or we could put aside our CEO, the person who caused these political divisions on the first place. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:28 - Mar 31 with 2313 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:23 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Why would it be everywhere forever? Will Sunderland be known as Reform FC too then?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC because they have famous Hollywood owners, right? We were visited and manipulated by a divisive politician, but official links?! Absolutely not. He's not "one of us". We don't need to catastrophise. |
Barring 'online bantz' it'll be chip paper outside of Ipswich in a couple of weeks. I respect any individuals right to do whatever they like and to feel how they like but the levels of catastrophising on here (about longer term consequences) have been mad. You don't have to like Mark Ashton. In fact many didn't even before all of this. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:39]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:29 - Mar 31 with 2301 views | thebooks |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:26 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
For the last fecking time. I'm not asking ANYONE to suck it up.
But park the issue for a short time for the good of OUR club. Him resigning would leave us in a big pickle from an ownership/administrative point of view. At least with an important part of the season to play.
I repeat. The time for facing the music/replacements is the close season. Some of you have got to start seeing this as adults rather than stamping your feet, kicking and screaming. As Blue Monday Podcast said, Ashton hasn't done "anything illegal" that's an immediately sackable offence. However, he's tarnished his rep and trust from the fanbase, which is likely irreparable. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:26]
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Him resigning would be a huge, immediate, net benefit for the club. Simple as that. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:29 - Mar 31 with 2298 views | PrideOfTheEast |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:30 - Mar 31 with 2276 views | Camul123 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:20 - Mar 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Don't you think that picture is going to be everywhere forever now? What do you think it says?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC.
We had the Sheeran and Wardley links.
Now we have an official link with Farage and Reform. It isn't even him choosing to do it off his own back. It is a club-instigated partnership. |
The indelible stain of a permanent association with Farage.
As enduring as a drunken Delia with a mic in her hand. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 with 2245 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:23 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Why would it be everywhere forever? Will Sunderland be known as Reform FC too then?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC because they have famous Hollywood owners, right? We were visited and manipulated by a divisive politician, but official links?! Absolutely not. He's not "one of us". We don't need to catastrophise. |
Perhaps you missed the full details of the story:
ITFC approached and invited Farage.
Ashton had a meal with him and donated 6 shirts printed with Farage 10 on them - linking him to 10 Downing Street (i.e. the next Prime Minister) from the club/Ashton.
The club/Ashton then allowed his media team to tour the ground and take staged photos in various parts of it.
The club then played this down in a statement that claimed it was just a privately-booked stadium tour that Farage arranged for himself and that the club remains and always has been apolitical. Apolitical - won't try to influence who is the next Prime Minister or help someone from a particular political party in gaining election.
Eventually, Ashton apologises "for the hurt that some people are feeling over it" and adds "there are a lot mistruths out there."
What do you think constitutes an official link? If Ashton goes, the official link can be dismissed. If Ashton states: "I broke the apolitical guidance that this club operates and it was a massive error of judgement from me. I was wrong and deeply regret it. I have returned the signed shirt to Farage and I apologise for the images that we supplied to them and they are using in their political campaigning." He would possibly be able to hang on with the damage limited. But he isn't and the longer he goes without doing so the less credible such a statement would be. | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 with 2243 views | Hogger |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:12 - Mar 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Yes. We can.
All it needs is for Ashton to resign or be removed by the owners.
The ball is in their court.
Until then too many are not prepared to pull together as one for Reform FC. |
Totally this. There's no way my wife and I can pretend this hasn't happened... | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 with 2245 views | ReusersTown |
Why do you think protesting Ashton is such an issue for the players and coaching? They've been getting singled out and put down vocally by a noted number of fans this season? If anything this could be seen as an act of support by many of them who also do not agree with Ashton and his political stance he's foisted upon the club. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 with 2239 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:29 - Mar 31 by thebooks |
Him resigning would be a huge, immediate, net benefit for the club. Simple as that. |
Who do you propose runs the club for the next couple of months then? Who does Kieran report to? And the rest of the staff? Think about it.
It's by no means an easy situation, but the right thing to do is deal with this properly in June. That's not me saying forget what's happened by June. The wounds are clearly there and deep, but a resignation/sacking is far too simplistic a view over a business as big as this. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 with 2234 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:26 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
For the last fecking time. I'm not asking ANYONE to suck it up.
But park the issue for a short time for the good of OUR club. Him resigning would leave us in a big pickle from an ownership/administrative point of view. At least with an important part of the season to play.
I repeat. The time for facing the music/replacements is the close season. Some of you have got to start seeing this as adults rather than stamping your feet, kicking and screaming. As Blue Monday Podcast said, Ashton hasn't done "anything illegal" that's an immediately sackable offence. However, he's tarnished his rep and trust from the fanbase, which is likely irreparable. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:26]
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I'm not sure what doing anything illegal has anything to do with it. That seems like an insane standard to set.
However, by not applying pressure, it allows the club to bury it under the carpet, change the narrative (although, I accept, recent events demonstrate that they are woefully inadequate at that!) and pretend it has all gone away.
It hasn't.
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That does not mean that the team should not get full support, be completely backed and, hopefully, be cheered on to promotion. They are entirely blameless in all of this, and it is a real shame that they have been caught up in it all. All we can do, as fans, is let them know they have our full support and try to ensure that they are not caught up in it any more.
I actually don't think you and I are that far apart. We want the best, and success, for our team. Where that is involved, we will (and should) be all pulling together [Post edited 31 Mar 11:35]
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