| Enciso - latest? 10:05 - Aug 7 with 4912 views | Blooos |
Obviously be things happening in the background, but seems to be quite slow? About a week ago appeared imminent but all pretty hush.
Really hope we get him in |  | | |  |
| Enciso - latest? on 10:07 - Aug 7 with 4862 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Looks like a case of club vs player. Pretty clear Enciso want's to come, hence the 'confidence in the deal'. Strasbourg probably less inclined and making it a tough deal to do. | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 10:11 - Aug 7 with 4776 views | Blooos |
| Enciso - latest? on 10:07 - Aug 7 by Bellevue_Blue |
Looks like a case of club vs player. Pretty clear Enciso want's to come, hence the 'confidence in the deal'. Strasbourg probably less inclined and making it a tough deal to do. |
Can imagine the Strasbourg / Chelsea set-up are a nightmare to deal with. | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 10:15 - Aug 7 with 4710 views | Linners |
Strasbourg have got a friendly tomorrow. Will be interesting to see if he's involved. |  | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 11:37 - Aug 7 with 4142 views | BloomBlue |
Strasbourg (Chelsea) have always been a pain to negotiate with. Wouldn't surprise me if they want to tie a Chelsea player into any Enciso deal. Ie yes you can have Enciso but only if you also take Guiu at £50m |  | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 11:41 - Aug 7 with 4068 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Probably having to wait for their masters at blueco to insert the appropriate clauses, so Chelsea can buy him back for a fiver to rot in their 3rd reserve squad. | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 11:51 - Aug 7 with 3882 views | Litfc00 |
Given the player will be moving from side in a European competition to a relegation contender - would imagine Enciso will want a number of escape clauses in his contract. Would presume we’re working through those and making sure everything lines up (for example a 50 million release clause that drops to 30 if we’re relegated etc)
Might also be running through if the deal should be a permanent deal or a loan with an obligation if we stay up.
Is pretty normal for a deal of this magnitude to take a while. | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 11:56 - Aug 7 with 3784 views | Vic |
| Enciso - latest? on 11:51 - Aug 7 by Litfc00 |
Given the player will be moving from side in a European competition to a relegation contender - would imagine Enciso will want a number of escape clauses in his contract. Would presume we’re working through those and making sure everything lines up (for example a 50 million release clause that drops to 30 if we’re relegated etc)
Might also be running through if the deal should be a permanent deal or a loan with an obligation if we stay up.
Is pretty normal for a deal of this magnitude to take a while. |
Is it? I can't really see why if its done all the time.
What makes you say its normal? |  |
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| Enciso - latest? on 12:16 - Aug 7 with 3530 views | PhilTWTD |
Position was overstated somewhat last weekend, from what I was told. |  | | |
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| Enciso - latest? on 12:20 - Aug 7 with 3419 views | hoppy |
| Enciso - latest? on 12:16 - Aug 7 by PhilTWTD |
Position was overstated somewhat last weekend, from what I was told. |
And is that the latest you've known of? |  |
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| Enciso - latest? on 14:11 - Aug 7 with 2935 views | blueoutlook |
| Enciso - latest? on 12:16 - Aug 7 by PhilTWTD |
Position was overstated somewhat last weekend, from what I was told. |
I heard it hasnt really gotten far at all(from a good friend at Strasbourg). But I got shouted down at the time. |  | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:15 - Aug 7 with 2844 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Enciso - latest? on 12:16 - Aug 7 by PhilTWTD |
Position was overstated somewhat last weekend, from what I was told. |
Negotiations continuing Phil? or are we starting to look elsewhere?
Hope not, last time he was here, he looked, compared to everyone, (except Delap) to be genuinely Premier League class |  |
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| Enciso - latest? on 14:27 - Aug 7 with 2694 views | tiptreeblue |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:15 - Aug 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Negotiations continuing Phil? or are we starting to look elsewhere?
Hope not, last time he was here, he looked, compared to everyone, (except Delap) to be genuinely Premier League class |
Delap? Hutchinson I can believe, but I'm sorry, I really can't see why people think Delap is Premier quality | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:30 - Aug 7 with 2627 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:27 - Aug 7 by tiptreeblue |
Delap? Hutchinson I can believe, but I'm sorry, I really can't see why people think Delap is Premier quality |
Well, you only had to watch him. | |
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| Enciso - latest? on 14:52 - Aug 7 with 2422 views | DarkBrandon |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:27 - Aug 7 by tiptreeblue |
Delap? Hutchinson I can believe, but I'm sorry, I really can't see why people think Delap is Premier quality |
You think you know better than all the coaches and scouts at the myriad of PL clubs who wanted to buy him 12 months ago? |  | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:54 - Aug 7 with 2398 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Enciso - latest? on 12:16 - Aug 7 by PhilTWTD |
Position was overstated somewhat last weekend, from what I was told. |
Ah of course, it was actually exciting so that sounds about right. |  |
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| Enciso - latest? on 15:31 - Aug 7 with 2006 views | PhilTWTD |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:15 - Aug 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Negotiations continuing Phil? or are we starting to look elsewhere?
Hope not, last time he was here, he looked, compared to everyone, (except Delap) to be genuinely Premier League class |
Think it's still ongoing. Paraguayan talk of a loan was interesting earlier in the week. Sounds like BlueCo may want to keep hold of him to see how he does in the Premier League before moving him on permanently. | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 15:33 - Aug 7 with 1940 views | hype313 |
| Enciso - latest? on 15:31 - Aug 7 by PhilTWTD |
Think it's still ongoing. Paraguayan talk of a loan was interesting earlier in the week. Sounds like BlueCo may want to keep hold of him to see how he does in the Premier League before moving him on permanently. |
Unlike BlueCo to hoard players. |  |
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| Enciso - latest? on 15:34 - Aug 7 with 1930 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Enciso - latest? on 15:31 - Aug 7 by PhilTWTD |
Think it's still ongoing. Paraguayan talk of a loan was interesting earlier in the week. Sounds like BlueCo may want to keep hold of him to see how he does in the Premier League before moving him on permanently. |
The Photo in their away kit seemed to be a bit of, he's still our player by the way social media flex. Real done it with Vini Jr a well.
Seems like he wants to come but probably a lot of back and forth on that one. | |
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| Enciso - latest? on 16:15 - Aug 7 with 1576 views | tiptreeblue |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:30 - Aug 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Well, you only had to watch him. |
Really? I'm sorry but all I could see was someone who was very aggressive and lacked the ability to pass to a colleague. I really hope he comes good and proves me wrong. Like you I'm entitled to my own opinion and I don't think he will, hence why Chelsea want rid so we'll see I suppose | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 17:30 - Aug 7 with 1166 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Enciso - latest? on 16:15 - Aug 7 by tiptreeblue |
Really? I'm sorry but all I could see was someone who was very aggressive and lacked the ability to pass to a colleague. I really hope he comes good and proves me wrong. Like you I'm entitled to my own opinion and I don't think he will, hence why Chelsea want rid so we'll see I suppose |
Cool your jets Tiptree. Where did anyone say you weren't entitled to your own opinion?
Of course you are, but by extension, anyone else is entitled to think your opinion is wrong, after all, its just an opinion.
I think you've conflated the Liam Delap we saw up til January, with the player we saw at Chelsea last season, who looked an angry and frustrated player. Chelsea fans are convinced, (albeit tongue in cheek), that he is a twin and we've actually sold them Bryan Delap and Liam is in our reserves somewhere, so they seemed pretty excited to get him, as do the majority of Everton fans who he has been linked with.
Every time I watched him, especially at home he has head and shoulders above all our other players in terms of his quality on and off the ball, until such time as Enciso came in; to get back to what this thread was about. | |
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| Enciso - latest? on 17:36 - Aug 7 with 1097 views | andyblue231 |
| Enciso - latest? on 14:52 - Aug 7 by DarkBrandon |
You think you know better than all the coaches and scouts at the myriad of PL clubs who wanted to buy him 12 months ago? |
to be fair, it seems he knew better than the Chelsea coaches who I suspect regret buying him. and the Man Utd coaches who recommended buying him who now wouldn't.
I think he's pretty rubbish and I doubt he'll have even half a season for anyone again like he did for us. | | | |
| Enciso - latest? on 17:48 - Aug 7 with 995 views | tiptreeblue |
| Enciso - latest? on 17:36 - Aug 7 by andyblue231 |
to be fair, it seems he knew better than the Chelsea coaches who I suspect regret buying him. and the Man Utd coaches who recommended buying him who now wouldn't.
I think he's pretty rubbish and I doubt he'll have even half a season for anyone again like he did for us. |
Thank you kind sir, at least somebody else can spot a decent player (or not in the case of Delap) like I said in an earlier post, I really hope he proves me wrong, but I just can't see it happening | | | |
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