Lambert Keen for Dobra, El Mizouni and McGavin to Go Out on Loan
Friday, 11th Sep 2020 13:19
Town boss Paul Lambert would like youngsters Armando Dobra, Idris El Mizouni and Brett McGavin to go out on loan in order to get first-team games under their belts.
Midfielder McGavin, 20, signed a new contract which runs to the summer of 2022, with the club having an option for a further season, earlier in the week, and Lambert says the midfielder now needs to go out and get games after making four senior appearances for Town last season and having featured during in pre-season.
"I think he needs first-team football to keep progressing the way he's going,” Lambert said.
"He's trained with us for most of pre-season, he's played some games, a great experience for him at Tottenham as well.
"But I think now we maybe look at going out on loan, I think that's important for his development and getting games.”
Fellow midfielder El Mizouni, 19, has made six senior starts and seven sub appearances, scoring once, and was also involved with the first team in pre-season, netting a stunning goal at Colchester.
Lambert says he’d like the Tunisia international, who had a spell at Cambridge last season before picking up an injury, to go out for another stint, although at the moment the Paris-born schemer is suffering from a minor fitness issue.
“He’s got an injury in his back at the minute, but he’s doing alright,” the Blues boss said."Idris needs games as well, without a doubt. A really good talent, without a doubt. He just needs to play football games.”
And the same goes for Albania U21 international Dobra, also 19, who has made four starts and four sub appearances, scoring once, on his debut at Luton in the Carabao Cup last season.
“He’s another kid that needs constant first team football and in an environment where he can get away from U23 football where there’s no really pressure on you,” Lambert continued.
"Those kids have to play with pressure, we need to get them out playing men’s football and learning the hard way is important for them.”
Ideally, he’d like to send them to League Two and despite clubs at that level being short on cash due to the coronavirus crisis, he says there ought to be sides able to afford to pay a proportion of their wages while they are with them.
“The two kids are not on great money, they’re only kids and you’ve got to earn the right to go up the ladder and get financially looked after,” he said. "They’re on money that the football club thinks is their value.
"The most important thing is their development. It’s the development of the kids that’s important, forget the finances, it’s how they progress as footballers and how it’s going to be going forward and making a career going forward.
“Ideally, [I’d like them to go to League Two], if that can happen, great. They're are good players and they could handle that level.”
Town have already sent keeper Harry Wright, 21, on loan to Swedish side GAIS until December and left-back Bailey Clements and forward Kai Brown, both 19, to National League Dagenham & Redbridge.
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|Wallingford_Boy added 13:28 - Sep 11|
Makes sense. El Miz has an injury, that explains his lack of involvement lately. Will anyone take them though? A run of games at L2 level would see them well set to come back here in January.
|casanovacrow added 13:29 - Sep 11|
They wouldn't be far enough off my first team selection to bung em out on loan.
|OldClactonBlue added 13:31 - Sep 11|
I'd rather play these in our team and get some of the under performers out.
|Wallingford_Boy added 13:36 - Sep 11|
A down arrow is odd. Best to get experience playing first team footy at a lower level that playing U23 football here. Not far off the first team here, but not quite ready.
|mojo added 13:37 - Sep 11|
I could understand it if we were in the Championship but we are not. El Miz has already had a loan at league 2 and proven himself so what would be the point of a second one? How many game changers do we have at the club? What would be the harm in bringing El Miz or Dobra on with 10 minutes to go if we are searching for a winner?
|SaigonTractor added 13:40 - Sep 11|
We have too many midfielders anyway so it'd be good for them to get some regular first team football.
I'd rather them get 70+ minutes a game in League 2, instead of the occasional 20/30 here.
|midastouch added 13:44 - Sep 11|
El Mizouni went out on loan at Cambridge and looked like a class act. And before anybody says it was only League 2 level, well Cambridge just beat us in a pre-season friendly!
Let's take a look here: https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/idris-el-mizouni-enjoying-cambridge-united-loan-1-6
His most recent performance led to one supporter to proclaim online: 'Young Idris is a different gravy... you Tractor Boys must be blessed with talent if you are letting this diamond go out on loan!'
And how about his superb goal against Colchester very recently? And how about Dobra ripping it up on international duty against Austria in the U21s? His assist was quality. And how about this goal? Unreal quality:
Honestly, what do these talented boys need to do in order to get a proper chance? It's infuriating!
|Nazemariner added 13:46 - Sep 11|
Neither Mcgavin nor El Miz are getting in ahead of the likes of Bishop, Dozzell, Huws, Judge, Skuse or Downes, so it makes sense to get them out somewhere playing games. Dobra on the other hand must be knocking on the door for one of the three advanced positions.
|StringerBell added 13:47 - Sep 11|
Wallingford - there are some right chimps on here who think down marking is such a lark and yet they never comment. Twerps.
To my mind we should be blooding these guys - Dobra and El Miz in particular - in our team, not sending them off to some L2 dead end. Dobra proved himself at Cambridge and Brighton were looking at El Miz. There's plenty of deadwood in our current squad that these players could challenge.
|midastouch added 13:52 - Sep 11|
Burley would start building a team around these sorts of players, not loaning them out!
|ITFC_96 added 13:53 - Sep 11|
From the textbook of the 5 point plan I imagine?
|Bergholt_Blue added 14:03 - Sep 11|
Can't say I'd be too impressed with Dobra & El Miz going out on loan. Should both be in every first team squad
|Terry_Nutkins added 14:23 - Sep 11|
Fine with but not a season long or with a quick recall. Bishop being fit makes it very tricky for El Miz and with Lankaster coming back same thing. We have to trim the squad. These boys can be our future but they have had so little game time and if they haven't shown enough to get in over pre-season then they need to go and get games and not sit on our bench or outside squad.
Judge has come back very sharp and Sears as well and you aren't going to drop them on current form out of the squad.
The issues would be if we pick up a number of injuries then these boys could be needed but if they don't play they won't be ready
|Terry_Nutkins added 14:26 - Sep 11|
Bright comment BryanPlug....I mean Drinnan came back in pre-Season, busted a gut and got in the team. Lambert is hardly going to make this call if they were performing better than what he's got.
I'm disappointed to a degree but only from the point of view I probably want them to be better than they are/or more ready to step. What we want and what is the reality are different things.
|JDAndCoke added 15:17 - Sep 11|
Think this makes sense. Like others have said, all 3 are playing in positions where there's a lot of competition for places. Yes they might play the odd game or get 20 minutes off the bench here and there but they're much better starting in L2 week in week out against big, hairy arsed blokes. They'll be better players for it
|Lathers added 15:38 - Sep 11|
Dobra would be in my match day squad every week, if not starting wide in a front 3. I’d loan out Judge, Edwards, Huws, Kenlock and Lambert if I was the owner :)
|braveblue added 15:46 - Sep 11|
Why on earth does he not give Dobra a chance?
|Bluearmy71 added 17:00 - Sep 11|
Mine like most views is I'd rather see Dobra and El Mouzi gain experience with us now rather than loaning them out, I fear this is a consequence of having a large squad, I feel for sure if the squad wasn't half as big they'd be playing for us, given the circumstance sending them on loan is probably the better idea as playing full games at lower leagues has to be better then 20 min sub appearances in L1!
I'm also sure we will have recalls put in place should injuries, sales etc etc happen.
|BeattiesBackPocket added 19:50 - Sep 11|
Dobra should be in the team if not starting at the very least on the bench. Look at the goal against Cardiff albeit reserves tell me one player who can do what he did for that goal? I’ll wait?
You can’t implement the five point plan again if the talented youngsters we have won’t play or are sold before entering the first team. I’d imagine Dobra must be wondering what he has to do to get a chance? Maybe being wanted by a good footballing premier league club? Scoring a worldie against Cardiff? When he had to watch a team finish 11th in the league last season with mostly poor performing older experienced players in the team?
|KiwiBlue2 added 03:16 - Sep 12|
Hopefully the loans are just through until January. By that time I expect a few who are in the starting line-up/squad now will have played themselves out
of contention and these two, especially Dobra, will get their chance in the second part of the season. Main thing will be for neither of them to pick up any serious injuries......
|ArnieM added 17:32 - Sep 12|
Play these youngsters in OUR team, not sending them out on bloody loan ffs!
|Dozzells_Bobblehat added 18:29 - Sep 12|
Definitely agree with McGavin . Possibly with El Miz , but think Dobra would be great impact player off the bench for the first team.
|Linkboy13 added 08:57 - Sep 13|
Totally agree with the coaching staff (it's not just Lambert) our youngsters are well overrated . Going out on loan makes them better players and better people. Look what it did for Downes and Wolfenden why are these any different. We don't see these boys day in day out like the coaches yet we know more than them.
|dirtydingusmagee added 10:08 - Sep 14|
yes linkboy13 ,look what it did for Downes ,now he wants away. We are told we need our young players, they are the future, but how low do we go with ''old dogs'' whilst the youngsters are farmed out, [or we lose them to another club as soon as they show any potential ]
|BlueandTruesince82 added 17:38 - Sep 14|
Dobra I think should be comming off our bench. The other 2 I have no issue with. Games will do them good. Id see if Col U and or Cambs would take either/both on loan
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