| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:20 - Dec 20 with 6471 views | BlueLikeJazz |
“As you consider your vote, I encourage you to know the president and the US take this vote personally.
“The president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those who voted against us,”
*boggles*
No, no, that doesn't sound sinister AT ALL.  |  | |  |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:21 - Dec 20 with 6462 views | J2BLUE |
To be fair, they have a point. It is their embassy and while we might not agree, they can do what they want. |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:27 - Dec 20 with 6438 views | GlasgowBlue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:21 - Dec 20 by J2BLUE |
To be fair, they have a point. It is their embassy and while we might not agree, they can do what they want. |
There aren't many bigger supporters of Israel's right to exist on this site than me, and I think that if you asked most people who don't particularly follow world events "what is the capital of Israel"? most would reply Jerusalem because of the historical connection to a Jewish homeland over many millennia, but Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel id poorly timed and puts a two state peace process solution in severe jeopardy. |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:33 - Dec 20 with 6427 views | footers |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:21 - Dec 20 by J2BLUE |
To be fair, they have a point. It is their embassy and while we might not agree, they can do what they want. |
That's true, but taking a look at the video further down the page, the ambassador seems to be conflating the two issues. No one can tell another state where to place their embassy, but that's completely different to recognising somewhere as a capital.
In the video she also goes on to say that it's 'scandalous' to suggest naming Jerusalem as the capital could endanger the region's peace process. Just goes to show how seemingly little Trump knows about the Middle East, or, more worryingly, that he seems to think it a positive step.
Likewise, the language throughout seems personal and vindictive. Not a great way to conduct diplomacy, though obviously normal in the way Trump likes to run things. |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:42 - Dec 20 with 6396 views | J2BLUE |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:33 - Dec 20 by footers |
That's true, but taking a look at the video further down the page, the ambassador seems to be conflating the two issues. No one can tell another state where to place their embassy, but that's completely different to recognising somewhere as a capital.
In the video she also goes on to say that it's 'scandalous' to suggest naming Jerusalem as the capital could endanger the region's peace process. Just goes to show how seemingly little Trump knows about the Middle East, or, more worryingly, that he seems to think it a positive step.
Likewise, the language throughout seems personal and vindictive. Not a great way to conduct diplomacy, though obviously normal in the way Trump likes to run things. |
Ah, I can't see the video at work, just the text. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:43 - Dec 20 with 6396 views | Darth_Koont |
Read that as them talking first and foremost to the US voters. It makes everything much more understandable. After all they could send letters via their embassies if this was about giving a genuine and explicit warning.
I think Guthers made this point about America First being a communication strategy more than any real interest in getting out there and spreading US hegemony (as it has been in the past). |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 15:04 - Dec 20 with 6352 views | factual_blue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:20 - Dec 20 by BlueLikeJazz |
“As you consider your vote, I encourage you to know the president and the US take this vote personally.
“The president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those who voted against us,”
*boggles*
No, no, that doesn't sound sinister AT ALL. |
It also sounds to me as though she's doing her best to say 'this is nothing to do with me. I am so, so sorry.' |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 15:26 - Dec 20 with 6332 views | jontysnut |
Don't tell him Pike! |  | | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 15:55 - Dec 20 with 6303 views | GeoffSentence |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:20 - Dec 20 by BlueLikeJazz |
“As you consider your vote, I encourage you to know the president and the US take this vote personally.
“The president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those who voted against us,”
*boggles*
No, no, that doesn't sound sinister AT ALL. |
It is kind of a "I know where you live" moment isn't it. |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 16:10 - Dec 20 with 6287 views | ElderGrizzly |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:33 - Dec 20 by footers |
That's true, but taking a look at the video further down the page, the ambassador seems to be conflating the two issues. No one can tell another state where to place their embassy, but that's completely different to recognising somewhere as a capital.
In the video she also goes on to say that it's 'scandalous' to suggest naming Jerusalem as the capital could endanger the region's peace process. Just goes to show how seemingly little Trump knows about the Middle East, or, more worryingly, that he seems to think it a positive step.
Likewise, the language throughout seems personal and vindictive. Not a great way to conduct diplomacy, though obviously normal in the way Trump likes to run things. |
Absolutely. From our FCO perspective, the US can do whatever they like with their embassy and that is our line.
However, when that is accompanied with rhetoric that undermines any hope of peace there, we have to stand up against him.
Plus, Trump is only watching if Fox News run it, so think we’ll be safe! :) [Post edited 20 Dec 2017 16:10]
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 16:11 - Dec 20 with 6282 views | ElderGrizzly |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 15:04 - Dec 20 by factual_blue |
It also sounds to me as though she's doing her best to say 'this is nothing to do with me. I am so, so sorry.' |
Not at all. She is a mini-Trump. Detestable woman | | | |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:02 - Dec 20 with 6221 views | factual_blue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 16:11 - Dec 20 by ElderGrizzly |
Not at all. She is a mini-Trump. Detestable woman |
In that case, Ulla is welcome to her.
On an allied note, was it you told Irish officials to ignore everything boris says? | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:03 - Dec 20 with 6220 views | giant_stow |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 16:11 - Dec 20 by ElderGrizzly |
Not at all. She is a mini-Trump. Detestable woman |
Hey don't be mean to my lovely! In sure she's just loyal to her boss. |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:05 - Dec 20 with 6216 views | factual_blue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:03 - Dec 20 by giant_stow |
Hey don't be mean to my lovely! In sure she's just loyal to her boss. |
I bet he's touched her inappropriately. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:07 - Dec 20 with 6216 views | giant_stow |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:05 - Dec 20 by factual_blue |
I bet he's touched her inappropriately. |
Now you're just teasing me. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:18 - Dec 20 with 6205 views | factual_blue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 17:07 - Dec 20 by giant_stow |
Now you're just teasing me. |
I bet that's what she said to him. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:21 - Dec 20 with 6123 views | GlasgowBlue |
That's no surprise really. It's the nature of the beast. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:29 - Dec 20 with 6107 views | giant_stow |
Bully boy tactics like that will only speed up the process of china becoming no. 1. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:36 - Dec 20 with 6092 views | GlasgowBlue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:29 - Dec 20 by giant_stow |
Bully boy tactics like that will only speed up the process of china becoming no. 1. |
It's ok. EG has assured us Trump will be gone by Christmas. | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:37 - Dec 20 with 6092 views | giant_stow |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:36 - Dec 20 by GlasgowBlue |
It's ok. EG has assured us Trump will be gone by Christmas. |
I missed that - how exciting! | |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:37 - Dec 20 with 6092 views | Guthrum |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:27 - Dec 20 by GlasgowBlue |
There aren't many bigger supporters of Israel's right to exist on this site than me, and I think that if you asked most people who don't particularly follow world events "what is the capital of Israel"? most would reply Jerusalem because of the historical connection to a Jewish homeland over many millennia, but Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel id poorly timed and puts a two state peace process solution in severe jeopardy. |
That's the thing for me, it's carelessly throwing away, or at least gravely risking, a couple of decades worth of the peace process. For no particular gain - except in terms of Trump's domestic fanbase. |  |
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| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:42 - Dec 20 with 6081 views | Bluesquid |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 14:43 - Dec 20 by Darth_Koont |
Read that as them talking first and foremost to the US voters. It makes everything much more understandable. After all they could send letters via their embassies if this was about giving a genuine and explicit warning.
I think Guthers made this point about America First being a communication strategy more than any real interest in getting out there and spreading US hegemony (as it has been in the past). |
So apart from the US voters is there anyone else that benefits from this? | | | |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:43 - Dec 20 with 6072 views | GlasgowBlue |
| US will 'take names of those who vote to reject Jerusalem recognition' on 19:37 - Dec 20 by giant_stow |
I missed that - how exciting! |
The again JC said he would be Prime Minster by Christmas and that didn't happen either. | |
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