| Sheff Weds get their man 09:47 - Jan 6 with 6679 views | unstableblue |
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Wouldn’t you just be really excited by this kind of story with Town??
Going for the Wagner effect but the club also has money. Baptism of fire against the blades on Friday night.
His opening his statements all include discipline and energy, but also ‘good football’ and ‘creativity’.
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 09:53 - Jan 6 with 5400 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
There would certainly be a hint of intrigue and even excitement, but at the same time I’d also be very wary
Ultimately, for every Wagner there is a Stale Solbakken, or quite possibly (hopefully!) a Daniel Farke
Obviously the same applies for any kind of manager - but I wouldn’t be getting over excited just because we’ve appointed someone foreign |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:01 - Jan 6 with 5349 views | strikalite |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 09:53 - Jan 6 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
There would certainly be a hint of intrigue and even excitement, but at the same time I’d also be very wary
Ultimately, for every Wagner there is a Stale Solbakken, or quite possibly (hopefully!) a Daniel Farke
Obviously the same applies for any kind of manager - but I wouldn’t be getting over excited just because we’ve appointed someone foreign |
Agree, you just can't tell, we all know how hard this league is, you need luck along the way that's for sure.. |  | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:01 - Jan 6 with 5348 views | Herbivore |
Not sure I'd be hugely excited by appointing a foreign manager I've never heard of. |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:12 - Jan 6 with 5313 views | SomethingBlue |
This sounds exciting - you seem to know a fair bit about him too, so do tell us more about what makes him this good. |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:17 - Jan 6 with 5268 views | WD19 |
Their previous manager was in the departure lounge for weeks and they have taken 2 further weeks to appoint this chap. He might be good, he might not, but I seriously doubt this was 'their man' all along. |  | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:20 - Jan 6 with 5264 views | Guthrum |
The "Wagner effect" is exceedingly trendy at the moment. So far, only Huddersfield have got it to work. |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:24 - Jan 6 with 5241 views | Garv |
It's a risk, but you won't get anywhere without a bit of risk.
What should we do otherwise, trundle along as we are now and just expect things to change? |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:25 - Jan 6 with 5231 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:12 - Jan 6 by SomethingBlue |
This sounds exciting - you seem to know a fair bit about him too, so do tell us more about what makes him this good. |
In all fairness, he probably knows the same amount about him as you do about Andy Cole's kid. |  | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:29 - Jan 6 with 5207 views | brogansnose |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:20 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
The "Wagner effect" is exceedingly trendy at the moment. So far, only Huddersfield have got it to work. |
It takes a broad set of circumstances to make it work and this trendy outlook does have the air of being the fast lane to promotion, if only !!! Personally I'd rather take a look at someone from a lower league who could get the team playing better football and have an eye for recruitment that doesn't cost GDP of an African nation. |  | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:32 - Jan 6 with 5195 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:24 - Jan 6 by Garv |
It's a risk, but you won't get anywhere without a bit of risk.
What should we do otherwise, trundle along as we are now and just expect things to change? |
I'd imagine that bloke has got a totally different outlook on tactics, formations, style & play - compared to MM.
A fresh outlook.
It might be successful - it might not. It might take 3 yrs to fully incorporate his beliefs, it might take 6months.
Nobody knows.
Yes, an appointment like his would excite me. Why would it not?!?! [Post edited 6 Jan 2018 10:34]
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:33 - Jan 6 with 5183 views | Guthrum |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:29 - Jan 6 by brogansnose |
It takes a broad set of circumstances to make it work and this trendy outlook does have the air of being the fast lane to promotion, if only !!! Personally I'd rather take a look at someone from a lower league who could get the team playing better football and have an eye for recruitment that doesn't cost GDP of an African nation. |
At Hudds it was part of a well-coordinated overall plan - which only just worked (coming down to penalties at the end of the play-offs). Without that properly-designed strategy, merely signing an obscure foreign manager is unlikely to be the answer. | |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:38 - Jan 6 with 5159 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:33 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
At Hudds it was part of a well-coordinated overall plan - which only just worked (coming down to penalties at the end of the play-offs). Without that properly-designed strategy, merely signing an obscure foreign manager is unlikely to be the answer. |
Pens in the semi final too, against Sheff Wed! Sliding doors / fine lines etc. |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:57 - Jan 6 with 5096 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:24 - Jan 6 by Garv |
It's a risk, but you won't get anywhere without a bit of risk.
What should we do otherwise, trundle along as we are now and just expect things to change? |
Personally, I’d rather the risk we take is on a successful manager from the lower leagues, but I do agree with the wider point | |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:12 - Jan 6 with 5023 views | SomethingBlue |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:25 - Jan 6 by Johnny_Boy |
In all fairness, he probably knows the same amount about him as you do about Andy Cole's kid. |
I can't find a post where I claimed to know much about Andy Cole's kid. | |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:38 - Jan 6 with 4943 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:07 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
As an actual adult I just find the idea that it's exciting to appoint someone I've never heard just because they are foreign to be very strange. I don't get your excitement over this, I find it weird. |
Wow. You've definitely had a humour bypass. Can't wait till MM leaves & we get the normal Herbivore back to TWTD. | | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:40 - Jan 6 with 4922 views | Herbivore |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:38 - Jan 6 by Johnny_Boy |
Wow. You've definitely had a humour bypass. Can't wait till MM leaves & we get the normal Herbivore back to TWTD. |
Was that another one of your 'joke' posts? | |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:46 - Jan 6 with 4891 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:40 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
Was that another one of your 'joke' posts? |
So, an appointment of a new manager, debuting in England, with fresh ideas, tactics, style of play & footballing beliefs WOULDN'T excite you?
I just struggle with your morose negative objections.
Just because you've never heard of somebody, doesn't mean they aren't well respected elsewhere. | | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:51 - Jan 6 with 4879 views | Herbivore |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:46 - Jan 6 by Johnny_Boy |
So, an appointment of a new manager, debuting in England, with fresh ideas, tactics, style of play & footballing beliefs WOULDN'T excite you?
I just struggle with your morose negative objections.
Just because you've never heard of somebody, doesn't mean they aren't well respected elsewhere. |
Sorry, was your original post a joke or not as you seem to now be reiterating the point I responded to? Is this new post also a joke? I'm not being negative, I just don't get the excitement over appointing an unknown manager just because they happen to be foreign. You run along and finish off that boner you seem to have popped over it though, each to their own. | |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:52 - Jan 6 with 4869 views | Darth_Koont |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 10:20 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
The "Wagner effect" is exceedingly trendy at the moment. So far, only Huddersfield have got it to work. |
It occurred to me: which clubs in recent years have got closest to the Wagner effect? By beating the financial odds to make the top 6.
Ipswich in 2014/15
Swansea in 2010/11
Any more? I could easily be missing teams just because I presumed they spent more. And to be honest I'm not entirely sure whether Rodgers was carried over the line by a financial injection.
Looks a long shot either way. And while I don't think Mick is likely to repeat the same trick with us, there doesn't seem to be any connection to a particular type of manager. |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 12:14 - Jan 6 with 4784 views | Trequartista |
Could turn out to be a Wagner, could turn out to be a Farke, but if he is successful, it makes the "well who would you appoint instead" argument redundant as i presume 99% of Wednesday fans would have never heard of him. |  |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 12:19 - Jan 6 with 4750 views | Guthrum |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:52 - Jan 6 by Darth_Koont |
It occurred to me: which clubs in recent years have got closest to the Wagner effect? By beating the financial odds to make the top 6.
Ipswich in 2014/15
Swansea in 2010/11
Any more? I could easily be missing teams just because I presumed they spent more. And to be honest I'm not entirely sure whether Rodgers was carried over the line by a financial injection.
Looks a long shot either way. And while I don't think Mick is likely to repeat the same trick with us, there doesn't seem to be any connection to a particular type of manager. |
While Huddersfield by no means broke the bank, they did sign more players than most people realise (including several on loan from big clubs, e.g. Aaaron Mooy, who went for £8m in the summer, Danny Ward).
For me the Wagner Effect (we may as well capitalise it, being a thing now) is about a club-wide strategy combining a decent, but unknown manager, a reasonable amount of transfer/wage spending and a PR/ticketing plan to get the fans along and onside. Which does require the owner to gamble a significant lump of cash, but is considerably more refined than the simple "buy your way to promotion" approach. | |
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| Sheff Weds get their man on 12:37 - Jan 6 with 4689 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:51 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
Sorry, was your original post a joke or not as you seem to now be reiterating the point I responded to? Is this new post also a joke? I'm not being negative, I just don't get the excitement over appointing an unknown manager just because they happen to be foreign. You run along and finish off that boner you seem to have popped over it though, each to their own. |
He's not getting hired at Sheff Weds 'just because he's foreign' though.
The reasoning seems to be lost on you.
Maybe 5yrs of Mick has destroyed all the excitement in you.
I worry about you! | | | |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 12:38 - Jan 6 with 4686 views | brogansnose |
| Sheff Weds get their man on 11:52 - Jan 6 by Darth_Koont |
It occurred to me: which clubs in recent years have got closest to the Wagner effect? By beating the financial odds to make the top 6.
Ipswich in 2014/15
Swansea in 2010/11
Any more? I could easily be missing teams just because I presumed they spent more. And to be honest I'm not entirely sure whether Rodgers was carried over the line by a financial injection.
Looks a long shot either way. And while I don't think Mick is likely to repeat the same trick with us, there doesn't seem to be any connection to a particular type of manager. |
Possibly Burnley first time around under Dyche ? | | | |
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