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They know, deep down, he's right. We don't need to eat animals. It is pretty cruel to breed them just to slaughter them, unless it's absolutely necessary for your survival (survival of the fittest). I think a lot of people are fighting with their own conscience and don't like that Callis is the one bringing that fight to the forefront of their minds.
For me, and I suspect a lot of us are the same, I was brought up believing eating animals was absolutely fine. I imagine in the early years I didn't even realise what I was eating. My dad would always drum into me about not wasting food... but then he, in turn, was brought up during the war when you couldn't be fussy. I bet there weren't many vegans knocking about in the 40's!
Also, animals do contain the nutrients we need AND our teeth are designed for tearing flesh.
Now, though, we have a choice. The problem is we've grown up with meat, we like it, and veganism seems a bit of a faff. That's the truth of it. I'll put a spider out in the garden rather than killing it but I'll happily tuck into a steak. We're hypocrites. Just accept that actually, however he expresses it, Callis is right. And then you won't get so angry.
Two things we can all do quite easily are eat less meat and eat outdoor-bred when we do have it. I do that, and although it's a long way short of what Callis is doing, it's better than nothing. And better for my conscience!
Right, need to get ready for heading oop north. I shall check back to see how this one turns out shortly!
'The Vegetarian Society estimates that there are around 4 million vegetarians in the UK, or about 7% of the population. However, other more recent surveys put the figure nearer the 3 million mark, or about 5% of the population'.
Out of interest, what is it about 95% of the population doing something that makes you conclusively rule that they are wrong?
I don't think it's the point that Callis makes that annoys people. More the manner in which he makes it (taking a minority view and suggesting anyone who doesn't agree is wrong), over and over.
A bit like you've laid the foundations for with this.
Callis is absolutely right about the cruelty involved in farming animals and it does twinge upon my conscious when I eat them.
The trouble is, having been brought up as a meat eater it is a struggle to move away, vegetarian and in particular vegan food has never hit the mark for me.
Still I have gone some way, I am now part vegan as I have vegan food with almost every meal.
I think I know why people get so angry with Callis on 11:47 - Jan 19 by GeoffSentence
I think you are spot on there Dolly.
Callis is absolutely right about the cruelty involved in farming animals and it does twinge upon my conscious when I eat them.
The trouble is, having been brought up as a meat eater it is a struggle to move away, vegetarian and in particular vegan food has never hit the mark for me.
Still I have gone some way, I am now part vegan as I have vegan food with almost every meal.
The people in here angry at Dolly and slagging me off rather than addressing the points he makes about my choices and the reactions of others on why they get upset are proving his/my point.
I think I know why people get so angry with Callis on 11:47 - Jan 19 by GeoffSentence
I think you are spot on there Dolly.
Callis is absolutely right about the cruelty involved in farming animals and it does twinge upon my conscious when I eat them.
The trouble is, having been brought up as a meat eater it is a struggle to move away, vegetarian and in particular vegan food has never hit the mark for me.
Still I have gone some way, I am now part vegan as I have vegan food with almost every meal.
I think I know why people get so angry with Callis on 11:50 - Jan 19 by monytowbray
The people in here angry at Dolly and slagging me off rather than addressing the points he makes about my choices and the reactions of others on why they get upset are proving his/my point.
No they aren't they are just at the end of their tether with all this Vegan BS.
They are omnivores, like 99% of the rest of the population on earth, that are, in the main, happy with their informed choice. They are bored of you banging on about it with your ridiculous straw men of kicking dogs to death etc.
I think I know why people get so angry with Callis on 11:50 - Jan 19 by monytowbray
The people in here angry at Dolly and slagging me off rather than addressing the points he makes about my choices and the reactions of others on why they get upset are proving his/my point.
Can you explain your avatar? I honestly don't understand it.
I might be having a dozy moment though.
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I think I know why people get so angry with Callis on 11:56 - Jan 19 with 19166 views
I think I know why people get so angry with Callis on 11:52 - Jan 19 by itfcjoe
No they aren't they are just at the end of their tether with all this Vegan BS.
They are omnivores, like 99% of the rest of the population on earth, that are, in the main, happy with their informed choice. They are bored of you banging on about it with your ridiculous straw men of kicking dogs to death etc.
The fact you call it a straw man shows you don't get it. You are not happy with your choices, you are in denial of the reality of your choices.
Even for lurkers this sh1te is tedious. I know we don't have to eat meat to survive, but I like eating meat so I will continue to do so. Acting preachy about it it's not surprising that these threads get heated. You wouldn't walk up to every smoker you see and give them a lecture on how smoking is bad for you, would you? Eventually you would get a smack.