| Current ITFC squad 14:48 - Jul 13 with 8334 views | itfcjoe |
As I usually do, to qualify for this you must have made at least 5 starts at Championship level - or be seemingly considered a first teamer (these ones shown in italics)
GK - Bialkowski, Gerken
RB - Spence, Emmanuel
LB - Knudsen, Kenlock
CB - Chambers Chalobah
CM - Bishop, Skuse, Adeyemi, Downes, Nydam, Dozzell, Huws
W - Ward, Roberts
ST - Waghorn, Garner, Sears
On the fringes:
RB - Cotter
CB - Woolfenden, C.Smith
W - Rowe
ST - Folami
Next rung down - i.e. unlikely to feature unless we are really struggling
GK - Wright
LB - Webber
W - McKendry, McLoughlin
ST - Drinan, Morris
1st year professionals/Scholars expected to play mainly for U23s this season
GK - Ware
RB - Crowe
LB - Clements
CB - Ndaba, Marshall
CM - McGavin
ST - Lankester |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 14:51 - Jul 13 with 4926 views | hype313 |
Cheers Joe, just from that it seems to me like we need another striker especially if Sears can't rediscover some form, also as much as the midfield looks exciting, it is very young and a few have had key injuries, would like to see an experienced campaigner in there, and centre back needs bolstering. |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 14:53 - Jul 13 with 4909 views | Herbivore |
We need 3 or 4 at least. Got to strengthen at CB, out wide and up front IMO. Those central midfield options though...... |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:01 - Jul 13 with 4858 views | itfcjoe |
Personal view on squad and where it is short is this.....
GK
Obviously if Bart goes we need a replacement. I also think we need a number 3 as Wright isn't up to it and Gerken had a long term injury last season.
RB
Think this is adequate, and that if Hurst thinks we need better then he'll have to shift one of these 2 either permanently or on loan
LB
As per RB
CB
At least 2 players short. I think we need 2 more and either Woolfenden or Chris Smith to step up as a genuine option as could see Chalobah playing further forward
CM
That's fine for me, although agree with hype that another player with a bit more experience may be required as only 3 of them are not eligible for the U23s and nearly all haven't put a full season together in the last 2 years
W
At least 2 players short
ST
Think the options there are ok with Hurst preferring one up top, but another striker wouldn't be a bad signing.
So with that in mind - I think we initially need:
1 3rd choice keeper
2 CBs
2 Wingers
and possible a central midfielder and a striker.
And that feels like the bare minimum requirement also - lots to do for Hurst in the next couple of weeks before we even consider that Waghorn, Garner, Knudsen and Bialkowski have all been linked with moves elsewhere | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:10 - Jul 13 with 4784 views | Reuser_is_God |
Evans/Bowman/Hurst new to get a wriggle on. |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:13 - Jul 13 with 4771 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:10 - Jul 13 by Reuser_is_God |
Evans/Bowman/Hurst new to get a wriggle on. |
Evans needs to get a wriggle on. He's been given a list .... |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:16 - Jul 13 with 4750 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:13 - Jul 13 by Kieran_Knows |
Evans needs to get a wriggle on. He's been given a list .... |
You really think Hursts only participation in the recruitment process is to give Evans a list? | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:16 - Jul 13 with 4761 views | JakeITFC |
It’s absolutely screaming relegation battle to me, Hurst’s first job is to make four really good first team signings (and it’s worrying that we haven’t got any further with that). |  | | |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:17 - Jul 13 with 4734 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:16 - Jul 13 by Reuser_is_God |
You really think Hursts only participation in the recruitment process is to give Evans a list? |
What else can he do until Evans agree's a fee with other clubs? Unless he has already been given permission to talk to them OR if the players he are after are free agents? | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:17 - Jul 13 with 4735 views | davblue |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:01 - Jul 13 by itfcjoe |
Personal view on squad and where it is short is this.....
GK
Obviously if Bart goes we need a replacement. I also think we need a number 3 as Wright isn't up to it and Gerken had a long term injury last season.
RB
Think this is adequate, and that if Hurst thinks we need better then he'll have to shift one of these 2 either permanently or on loan
LB
As per RB
CB
At least 2 players short. I think we need 2 more and either Woolfenden or Chris Smith to step up as a genuine option as could see Chalobah playing further forward
CM
That's fine for me, although agree with hype that another player with a bit more experience may be required as only 3 of them are not eligible for the U23s and nearly all haven't put a full season together in the last 2 years
W
At least 2 players short
ST
Think the options there are ok with Hurst preferring one up top, but another striker wouldn't be a bad signing.
So with that in mind - I think we initially need:
1 3rd choice keeper
2 CBs
2 Wingers
and possible a central midfielder and a striker.
And that feels like the bare minimum requirement also - lots to do for Hurst in the next couple of weeks before we even consider that Waghorn, Garner, Knudsen and Bialkowski have all been linked with moves elsewhere |
maybe that's why Webster was let go and maybe Waggers to generate the funds to cover the squad. |  | | |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:18 - Jul 13 with 4731 views | Steve_M |
I think we're very short in terms of Championship experience, especially with questions over Bart, Knudsen, Waghorn and Garner. With the transfer window closing earlier there is not a great deal of time to add to the squad.
We'll definitely sign another experienced defender somehow but it's not impossible that we'll get a late offer that's "too good to turn down" and repeat the Murphy situation. |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:20 - Jul 13 with 4706 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
Well done Joe, Good list and puts a bit of clarity in terms of where we sit at the minute.
The obvious caveat is that Hurst might see some of the players listed "on the fringes" or even"Next rung down" as being able to step up, but until the season kicks off we won't know.
One thing is certain though and that's we need 1 or 2 more bodies in at a minimum |  | | |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:24 - Jul 13 with 4673 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:17 - Jul 13 by Kieran_Knows |
What else can he do until Evans agree's a fee with other clubs? Unless he has already been given permission to talk to them OR if the players he are after are free agents? |
Pester Evans, speak to agents, if fee’s are being knocked back find alternate targets.
There is plenty he can, & will, be doing. | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:29 - Jul 13 with 4639 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:24 - Jul 13 by Reuser_is_God |
Pester Evans, speak to agents, if fee’s are being knocked back find alternate targets.
There is plenty he can, & will, be doing. |
Well I would say that is a given, but he can't do much in terms of getting players in when it'll be down to Evans and Milne to agree fees etc.
“Paul has already identified a number of targets in various positions as we look to strengthen the squad for the season ahead and the challenge is now on to secure those players.”
As I said earlier, that's what Evans a couple of weeks ago, and from the outside looking in, we don't seem any further ahead. | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:33 - Jul 13 with 4613 views | hype313 |
Just to add I really wouldn't be surprised to see some of the Webster money go towards Jon Nolan. | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:39 - Jul 13 with 4579 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:33 - Jul 13 by hype313 |
Just to add I really wouldn't be surprised to see some of the Webster money go towards Jon Nolan. |
Is he really needed though? Unless we we're thinking of playing him out wide? | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:41 - Jul 13 with 4571 views | ITFC_Forever |
While there is still plenty of time and no need to panic yet, our squads has lost a fair amount of quality and experience.
While I suspect PH will have knowledge of L1 / L2 rough diamonds out there just waiting to be polished, we need to ensure they are up to it - or will simply have a squad of L1 / L2 players.
Equally, they will need some more experience around them to help them adapt to the Champ.
And all this is assuming we don't lose any more from the squad - we can cope with Webster and McG going as they spent half the time injured, and Garner would be no great loss (given a choice between him and Waggy).
We have been chronically short at CB since we let Berra go and didn't replace him and then compounded the problem by letting Smith go to the US (CCV was only a short-term sticking plaster).
So we certainly need: 1 x CB (or 2 depending on where Chalobah plays), 1 x winger and 2 x forwards to get to a bare minimum of a squad.
Otherwise, despite PH, it does have a long hard struggle of a season written all over that squad. |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:45 - Jul 13 with 4542 views | chicoazul |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:33 - Jul 13 by hype313 |
Just to add I really wouldn't be surprised to see some of the Webster money go towards Jon Nolan. |
i would be surprised to see the Webster money go on *anyone*. |  |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:47 - Jul 13 with 4531 views | hype313 |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:39 - Jul 13 by Kieran_Knows |
Is he really needed though? Unless we we're thinking of playing him out wide? |
On paper our midfield looks incredibly exciting, but right now, can we hand on heart say that they will all be able to play 46 odd games next season? I just think a rugged experienced player like him could help guide the youngsters through a rigorous season.
He wouldn't cost the earth either. | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:47 - Jul 13 with 4525 views | hype313 |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:45 - Jul 13 by chicoazul |
i would be surprised to see the Webster money go on *anyone*. |
Well, quite. But we live in hope.... | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:49 - Jul 13 with 4517 views | Herbivore |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:41 - Jul 13 by ITFC_Forever |
While there is still plenty of time and no need to panic yet, our squads has lost a fair amount of quality and experience.
While I suspect PH will have knowledge of L1 / L2 rough diamonds out there just waiting to be polished, we need to ensure they are up to it - or will simply have a squad of L1 / L2 players.
Equally, they will need some more experience around them to help them adapt to the Champ.
And all this is assuming we don't lose any more from the squad - we can cope with Webster and McG going as they spent half the time injured, and Garner would be no great loss (given a choice between him and Waggy).
We have been chronically short at CB since we let Berra go and didn't replace him and then compounded the problem by letting Smith go to the US (CCV was only a short-term sticking plaster).
So we certainly need: 1 x CB (or 2 depending on where Chalobah plays), 1 x winger and 2 x forwards to get to a bare minimum of a squad.
Otherwise, despite PH, it does have a long hard struggle of a season written all over that squad. |
Can't see the need for two strikers given Hurst favours one up front. I think we definitely need a CB, a winger and a striker as absolute musts. I'd quite like two wingers though and an additional versatile defender to give us depth. That's 3-5 new players so we could do with starting to get some deals done. | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 15:57 - Jul 13 with 4457 views | itfcjoe |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:45 - Jul 13 by chicoazul |
i would be surprised to see the Webster money go on *anyone*. |
I could see £1m going on Tilt, who will come in on a lower wage and Evans banks the £2.5m and the wage saving | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 16:02 - Jul 13 with 4427 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:57 - Jul 13 by itfcjoe |
I could see £1m going on Tilt, who will come in on a lower wage and Evans banks the £2.5m and the wage saving |
Please no | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 16:05 - Jul 13 with 4414 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Current ITFC squad on 15:41 - Jul 13 by ITFC_Forever |
While there is still plenty of time and no need to panic yet, our squads has lost a fair amount of quality and experience.
While I suspect PH will have knowledge of L1 / L2 rough diamonds out there just waiting to be polished, we need to ensure they are up to it - or will simply have a squad of L1 / L2 players.
Equally, they will need some more experience around them to help them adapt to the Champ.
And all this is assuming we don't lose any more from the squad - we can cope with Webster and McG going as they spent half the time injured, and Garner would be no great loss (given a choice between him and Waggy).
We have been chronically short at CB since we let Berra go and didn't replace him and then compounded the problem by letting Smith go to the US (CCV was only a short-term sticking plaster).
So we certainly need: 1 x CB (or 2 depending on where Chalobah plays), 1 x winger and 2 x forwards to get to a bare minimum of a squad.
Otherwise, despite PH, it does have a long hard struggle of a season written all over that squad. |
No need to panic yet?
Very worried though. CB's situation is similar to that one from August last year where our central backs were injured. We knew the problem yet waited till the last day of the window and then Goldson move failed. We seem to be waiting ... again !
Waiting game whereas we badly need some decent additions. But this is Evans and same old story every transfer window yet he is deemed as a good one by some because he gave an interview. |  | | |
| Current ITFC squad on 16:08 - Jul 13 with 4401 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Current ITFC squad on 16:05 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
No need to panic yet?
Very worried though. CB's situation is similar to that one from August last year where our central backs were injured. We knew the problem yet waited till the last day of the window and then Goldson move failed. We seem to be waiting ... again !
Waiting game whereas we badly need some decent additions. But this is Evans and same old story every transfer window yet he is deemed as a good one by some because he gave an interview. |
Concern yes, panic no as there's still 4 weeks to go.
But knowing us, the time will slip away alarmingly and that deadline will soon come.
If we're still in this position in a couple of weeks, then the worry levels will increase a few notches.... | |
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| Current ITFC squad on 16:18 - Jul 13 with 4335 views | x123456789 |
The idea of losing Bialkowski and Waghorn from that squad is pretty terrifying
It strikes me that we lack any players (except Waghorn) with experience of playing football at a higher level (premiership or championship promotion level). Whether or not that will be an issue is unknown but I can understand the tag of being relegation candidates |  | | |
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