| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:39 - Aug 13 with 1812 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:28 - Aug 13 by chicoazul |
Well I was a trade union member for many years and a Labour member for many years and would like the trains renationalised but you're right I think people should take more personal responsibility. Swivel eyed loon all the way! |
Hmmm ... so you were a proud national socialist worker's representative? That explains the hard-on for Marxists.
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:40 - Aug 13 with 1810 views | Steve_M |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:22 - Aug 13 by Darth_Koont |
You didn't answer my question really but how is he supporting them? Is he raising money for them, supplying weapons or justifying their violent means?
For me, it's political support that generally makes violence less likely as it explores another avenue. Unless and here's the kicker ... it's political support for a violent regime that already holds the power. |
He is laying a wreath in memorial to them, that's clear justification isn't it? How would you consider someone laying a wreath on a Nazi memorial for example?
There's not actually much evidence that Corbyn's support for the men of violence has helped achieve peace anywhere either. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:47 - Aug 13 with 1780 views | chicoazul |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:40 - Aug 13 by Steve_M |
He is laying a wreath in memorial to them, that's clear justification isn't it? How would you consider someone laying a wreath on a Nazi memorial for example?
There's not actually much evidence that Corbyn's support for the men of violence has helped achieve peace anywhere either. |
FWIW I don't think Corbyn is an anti semite or racist or indeed an rsehole in any personal way. What he is is, simply, stupid. Truly, deeply stupid. He's a nice man and really does believe in egalitarianism and Marx and would love to make the world what he sees as a better place. But he is a stupid man, possessed of a very childish naivete and a clumsy hamfisted way of dealing with people and the press. He is also the perfect Trojan horse for the very *very* unpleasant Stalinists behind him who mark my words will dethrone him within 2 years when he wins the next election. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:49 - Aug 13 with 1772 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:40 - Aug 13 by Steve_M |
He is laying a wreath in memorial to them, that's clear justification isn't it? How would you consider someone laying a wreath on a Nazi memorial for example?
There's not actually much evidence that Corbyn's support for the men of violence has helped achieve peace anywhere either. |
Actually, there's a lot of evidence for recognition (political and personal) and reconciliation as the best step towards peace.
That doesn't mean Corbyn or anyone else condones terrorism. And Corbyn supports a two-state solution which means he doesn't actually support the extremist position.
Your first para is beneath you. Where's the factual evidence for that? Or the sense in making a comparison between a PLO memorial and a Nazi memorial? | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:56 - Aug 13 with 1748 views | BrixtonBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 13:32 - Aug 13 by GlasgowBlue |
WARNING- GRAPHIC IMAGES AND DESCRIPTION IN LINK by GlasgowBlue 13 Aug 2018 8:05Perhaps I’m being a little harsh on JC. He was obviously on a Thompson’s package holiday to Tunisia the way you do. He pops out early one morning for a stroll, hoping to pick up a day old copy of the Morning Star and walked past the local cemetery. A few random guys appear & ask him to honour some graves, and what can he politely do but agree? How’s he supposed to know it’s the Munich terrorists who are buried here?
Same thing happened a few years earlier when him, ken Livingstone and John McDonnell went on a stag weekend to Dublin. He leaves the other two in their B&B to sleep off their hangovers and wanders in to what he thinks is a village fun day. A couple of nice fellas wearing black balaclavas, berets and combat jackets ask him to join in a minutes silence for what he assumed was the recently departed chairman of the Rotary Club. How was he supposed to know he was honouring five IRA terrorists recently shot dead by the security services whilst they were attempting to blow up a Police station?
Poor old JC really must be the unluckiest anti racist peace campaigner.
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There's so many ifs, buts and maybes in this latest smear story is frankly ridiculous.
He was "near" a grave of people "believed" to be terrorists?! Jesus wept.
And they're trying to trip him up over something he said 4 years ago?
Still, all this "adds up" doesn't it. Keep building the mistrust in the person, but let's not bother with his policies or anything like that. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:10 - Aug 13 with 1711 views | Steve_M |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:56 - Aug 13 by BrixtonBlue |
There's so many ifs, buts and maybes in this latest smear story is frankly ridiculous.
He was "near" a grave of people "believed" to be terrorists?! Jesus wept.
And they're trying to trip him up over something he said 4 years ago?
Still, all this "adds up" doesn't it. Keep building the mistrust in the person, but let's not bother with his policies or anything like that. |
Back when Sitters was young and he was "near" people misbehaving he was rightly mocked, Corbyn is using the same excuse now despite the fact that he laid a wreath on the grave.
There comes a point when the person is a problem, Labour have reached that point with Corbyn but too many are ignoring it because of an understandable dislike of some of those doing the pointing. [Post edited 13 Aug 2018 15:21]
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:14 - Aug 13 with 1702 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:10 - Aug 13 by Steve_M |
Back when Sitters was young and he was "near" people misbehaving he was rightly mocked, Corbyn is using the same excuse now despite the fact that he laid a wreath on the grave.
There comes a point when the person is a problem, Labour have reached that point with Corbyn but too many are ignoring it because of an understandable dislike of some of those doing the pointing. [Post edited 13 Aug 2018 15:21]
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Yes, I dislike a lot of the people doing the pointing but I recognise that this is far more political than factual or even reasonable. That's what really p!sses me off.
We should be far, far better than this. And we certainly need a much better output from our politics. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:19 - Aug 13 with 1686 views | brazil1982 |
I've said before he's a 3rd rate backbench politician with a very grubby past that no-one took much notice of, until he becomes Leader of HMO. He knew what he was doing, and shouldn't deny it. It would be best all round if he admitted supporting terror organisations. |  | | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:49 - Aug 13 with 1657 views | BrixtonBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:19 - Aug 13 by brazil1982 |
I've said before he's a 3rd rate backbench politician with a very grubby past that no-one took much notice of, until he becomes Leader of HMO. He knew what he was doing, and shouldn't deny it. It would be best all round if he admitted supporting terror organisations. |
Why on earth would someone who's worked for peace most of his life support terror organisations?
Unless he has a split personality it doesn't add up. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:53 - Aug 13 with 1635 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:49 - Aug 13 by Darth_Koont |
Actually, there's a lot of evidence for recognition (political and personal) and reconciliation as the best step towards peace.
That doesn't mean Corbyn or anyone else condones terrorism. And Corbyn supports a two-state solution which means he doesn't actually support the extremist position.
Your first para is beneath you. Where's the factual evidence for that? Or the sense in making a comparison between a PLO memorial and a Nazi memorial? |
Re Nazi comparissons.......oh the irony! |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:53 - Aug 13 with 1643 views | brazil1982 |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:49 - Aug 13 by BrixtonBlue |
Why on earth would someone who's worked for peace most of his life support terror organisations?
Unless he has a split personality it doesn't add up. |
"Worked for peace" - what exactly has he achieved in that field? What "peace" has he brokered? What "work" has he been credited with? | | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:07 - Aug 13 with 1614 views | baxterbasics |
Argentina
The IRA
Palestinian terrorists
In every case Corbyn backs the wrong horse. He seems to side with anyone against the British State or her allies. As was said earlier, he may always have good intentions, but he's still very wrong. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:11 - Aug 13 with 1591 views | imsureazzure |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:02 - Aug 13 by hype313 |
It's all a bit too wishy washy from him for me.
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What a thoroughly disingenuous statement, his supporters surely must turn, if not look seriously inward. |  | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:13 - Aug 13 with 1585 views | hype313 |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:11 - Aug 13 by imsureazzure |
What a thoroughly disingenuous statement, his supporters surely must turn, if not look seriously inward. |
Yep, wishy washy as I said to MM earlier. He really needs to stamp it out if he has any visions of running the country (which I doubt he wants regardless) |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:13 - Aug 13 with 1581 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:07 - Aug 13 by baxterbasics |
Argentina
The IRA
Palestinian terrorists
In every case Corbyn backs the wrong horse. He seems to side with anyone against the British State or her allies. As was said earlier, he may always have good intentions, but he's still very wrong. |
I don't think supporting those in a weaker, minority position is supporting the wrong horse. It's most often the right horse if we're going to make the world a better place. Otherwise it's power and the status quo that quite literally dictates the world. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:15 - Aug 13 with 1566 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:49 - Aug 13 by BrixtonBlue |
Why on earth would someone who's worked for peace most of his life support terror organisations?
Unless he has a split personality it doesn't add up. |
What peace has he actually achieved?
He could literally drop kick puppies into the Thames whilst dressed as Hitker and you would find a way of defending him. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:16 - Aug 13 with 1566 views | imsureazzure |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:47 - Aug 13 by chicoazul |
FWIW I don't think Corbyn is an anti semite or racist or indeed an rsehole in any personal way. What he is is, simply, stupid. Truly, deeply stupid. He's a nice man and really does believe in egalitarianism and Marx and would love to make the world what he sees as a better place. But he is a stupid man, possessed of a very childish naivete and a clumsy hamfisted way of dealing with people and the press. He is also the perfect Trojan horse for the very *very* unpleasant Stalinists behind him who mark my words will dethrone him within 2 years when he wins the next election. |
He is a professional protestor and agitator, those who defend him blindly are not half as clever as they like to portray themselves. | | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:19 - Aug 13 with 1549 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 13:58 - Aug 13 by hype313 |
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He also wasn’t praying he was just copying the others out of respect
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:19 - Aug 13 with 1550 views | Steve_M |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:49 - Aug 13 by Darth_Koont |
Actually, there's a lot of evidence for recognition (political and personal) and reconciliation as the best step towards peace.
That doesn't mean Corbyn or anyone else condones terrorism. And Corbyn supports a two-state solution which means he doesn't actually support the extremist position.
Your first para is beneath you. Where's the factual evidence for that? Or the sense in making a comparison between a PLO memorial and a Nazi memorial? |
Really, beneath me? I've made two comparisons on this thread for illustrative purposes, one you happened to agree with the other you don't like. Both remain valid in my view.
Corbyn laid a wreath on the graves of terrorists, not the victims of those terrorists who included the Israeli athletes massacred at Munich let's not forget. That's not reconciliation. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:19 - Aug 13 with 1545 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:16 - Aug 13 by imsureazzure |
He is a professional protestor and agitator, those who defend him blindly are not half as clever as they like to portray themselves. |
His denials are right up of the Trump book when it comes to Russia | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:25 - Aug 13 with 1532 views | lowhouseblue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 14:00 - Aug 13 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Has he admitted that he knew the wreath laying was in relation to the terrorists? |
how thick can he plausibly be? |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:26 - Aug 13 with 1533 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:16 - Aug 13 by imsureazzure |
He is a professional protestor and agitator, those who defend him blindly are not half as clever as they like to portray themselves. |
Who's blindly defending him?
I'm having a go at the blindly swinging attackers. Everything in politics gets spun but amazingly we're supposed to believe that these accusations are all above board and legitimate. When it's got party politics, Labour power struggles, religion and the hyper-sensitive Israel/Palestine question at its core.
Sorry but in the real world this just doesn't add up as objective truth. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:30 - Aug 13 with 1516 views | giant_stow |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:26 - Aug 13 by Darth_Koont |
Who's blindly defending him?
I'm having a go at the blindly swinging attackers. Everything in politics gets spun but amazingly we're supposed to believe that these accusations are all above board and legitimate. When it's got party politics, Labour power struggles, religion and the hyper-sensitive Israel/Palestine question at its core.
Sorry but in the real world this just doesn't add up as objective truth. |
So what do you believe this all about Darth? Are these incidents made up and all those feeling disenfranchised by labour simply wrong? |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:31 - Aug 13 with 1513 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:19 - Aug 13 by Steve_M |
Really, beneath me? I've made two comparisons on this thread for illustrative purposes, one you happened to agree with the other you don't like. Both remain valid in my view.
Corbyn laid a wreath on the graves of terrorists, not the victims of those terrorists who included the Israeli athletes massacred at Munich let's not forget. That's not reconciliation. |
Yes, beneath you. You're much more reasonable than this normally. Equating a PLO memorial with a Nazi memorial just isn't the same thing at all because the latter is much more black and white.
And as for "Corbyn laid a wreath on the graves of terrorists, not the victims of those terrorists who included the Israeli athletes massacred at Munich let's not forget. That's not reconciliation." Well, I think you're connecting dots in the Mail's story where I see gaping holes and supposition. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 16:32 - Aug 13 with 1510 views | lowhouseblue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 15:49 - Aug 13 by BrixtonBlue |
Why on earth would someone who's worked for peace most of his life support terror organisations?
Unless he has a split personality it doesn't add up. |
"worked for peace most of his life" 
opposing the west isn't the same as working for peace. | |
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