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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU 19:03 - Nov 17 with 3826 views

A better deal can brokered.

Christ on a bike, deluded or what?

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:11 - Nov 17 with 2707 views

J2BLUE

Playing the game surely? Buying a bit of time before the resignation if May doesn't budge.

According to the latest poll 53% oppose a second referendum. That's interesting.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:29 - Nov 17 with 2678 views

WD19

Isn't that the official Labour party position on this too?

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:33 - Nov 17 with 2672 views

GunnsAirkick

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:11 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE
Playing the game surely? Buying a bit of time before the resignation if May doesn't budge. According to the latest poll 53% oppose a second referendum. That's interesting.

2/ Forced to choose:
- Britain backs this deal over no deal by 60% to 40%
- Britain prefers a 2nd in/out ref to this deal by 56% to 44%
- Britain prefers a 2nd in/out ref to no deal by 54% to 46%

(In all 3 cases Leave voters prefer the latter option)https://t.co/qLzIYOnzjJ pic.twitter.com/Y6TkniDLvq
— YouGov (@YouGov) November 16, 2018

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:34 - Nov 17 with 2665 views

Mullet

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:11 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE
Playing the game surely? Buying a bit of time before the resignation if May doesn't budge. According to the latest poll 53% oppose a second referendum. That's interesting.

53% of Tories?

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:42 - Nov 17 with 2641 views

GlasgowBlue

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:29 - Nov 17 by WD19
Isn't that the official Labour party position on this too?

That's what John McDonnell said this morning.

Surely anyone who votes against this deal believed that it can be renegotiated otherwise we leave with no deal.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:48 - Nov 17 with 2629 views

Nthsuffolkblue

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:42 - Nov 17 by GlasgowBlue
That's what John McDonnell said this morning. Surely anyone who votes against this deal believed that it can be renegotiated otherwise we leave with no deal.

or that we don't leave at all.

It is almost as if this is one issue on which there is no consensus at all … from any party, the population or anyone.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:57 - Nov 17 with 2597 views

Herbivore

What a shambles.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:58 - Nov 17 with 2592 views

J2BLUE

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:33 - Nov 17 by GunnsAirkick
2/ Forced to choose: - Britain backs this deal over no deal by 60% to 40% - Britain prefers a 2nd in/out ref to this deal by 56% to 44% - Britain prefers a 2nd in/out ref to no deal by 54% to 46% (In all 3 cases Leave voters prefer the latter option)https://t.co/qLzIYOnzjJ pic.twitter.com/Y6TkniDLvq — YouGov (@YouGov) November 16, 2018

Thanks...doesn't change my point. The very latest poll says 53% opposed as shown on Sky News about an hour ago.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:00 - Nov 17 with 2586 views

Herbivore

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:58 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE
Thanks...doesn't change my point. The very latest poll says 53% opposed as shown on Sky News about an hour ago.

And this poll from yesterday shows 54% in favour.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:04 - Nov 17 with 2576 views

J2BLUE

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:00 - Nov 17 by Herbivore
And this poll from yesterday shows 54% in favour.

No argument. My point is that doesn't make the latest one wrong or show that we should ignore it.

Overall I believe there is support for a second referendum and it would be a relief to most people to just make it all go away.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:15 - Nov 17 with 2557 views

GunnsAirkick

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:04 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE
No argument. My point is that doesn't make the latest one wrong or show that we should ignore it. Overall I believe there is support for a second referendum and it would be a relief to most people to just make it all go away.

My worry is Remain wins in a three question Referendum, the seeds have been sewn for this by May and the EU last week. The resentment that would cause would be huge (I say that having voted Remain). I honestly don't see an easy way out of this with any of the options. The Referendum really has opened Pandora's Box, I wish the bloody thing had never happened.

EDIT: Also to be fair different pollsters get different results, not sure which one Sky News were using.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:21 - Nov 17 with 2542 views

J2BLUE

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:15 - Nov 17 by GunnsAirkick

[Post edited 17 Nov 2018 20:17]

Daily Mirror and another couple I can't remember.

A three way referendum would only work if the least popular option was eliminated and we voted again. If Brexit is stopped, it needs to be democratically and fair.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:40 - Nov 17 with 2496 views

No9

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:15 - Nov 17 by GunnsAirkick

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The tory mantra - Divide & rule- as always

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 09:54 - Nov 18 with 2326 views

Charlie_pl_baxter

Did you see Nafine Dorries complaining that the deal means we would no longer have a voice in Brussels?

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:03 - Nov 18 with 2313 views

WD19

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:40 - Nov 17 by No9
The tory mantra - Divide & rule- as always

The response of the left - vacuous soundbite - as always.

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:20 - Nov 18 with 2277 views

Pinewoodblue

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 20:21 - Nov 17 by J2BLUE
Daily Mirror and another couple I can't remember. A three way referendum would only work if the least popular option was eliminated and we voted again. If Brexit is stopped, it needs to be democratically and fair.

Spot on the idea of a referendum is to establish a majority view

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:23 - Nov 18 with 2277 views

bluejacko

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 19:57 - Nov 17 by Herbivore
What a shambles.

Agreed,but why is it a shambles?
Politicians from all parties not getting on with the mandate they were given by a democratic vote despite what some of you would believe! Squabbling and trying to score political points off each other.
Both houses should hang their heads in shame to be honest.

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:33 - Nov 18 with 2258 views

bluejacko

How can the saintly Corbyn actually comment let alone condemn the draft agreement as he has actually admitted on the telly this morning he has NOT read the full document!
You really can’t make it up!

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:56 - Nov 18 with 2220 views

Herbivore

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:23 - Nov 18 by bluejacko
Agreed,but why is it a shambles? Politicians from all parties not getting on with the mandate they were given by a democratic vote despite what some of you would believe! Squabbling and trying to score political points off each other. Both houses should hang their heads in shame to be honest.

I'm not convinced about your reasoning mate.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 11:20 - Nov 18 with 2193 views

No9

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:03 - Nov 18 by WD19
The response of the left - vacuous soundbite - as always.

Nothing at all to do with soundbites - take a look at history,

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 11:22 - Nov 18 with 2190 views

No9

Her & her gang of 5?
Look at them if the tories weren't taking the piss out of the electorate none of them would have a cabinet job.

The only good thing that may come ou of this is that the tories may split.

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 12:05 - Nov 18 with 2165 views

GlasgowBlue

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:33 - Nov 18 by bluejacko
How can the saintly Corbyn actually comment let alone condemn the draft agreement as he has actually admitted on the telly this morning he has NOT read the full document! You really can’t make it up!

Give him a break mate. He’s only had 5 days and he’s not very bright.

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 12:07 - Nov 18 with 2161 views

bluejacko

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 10:56 - Nov 18 by Herbivore
I'm not convinced about your reasoning mate.

Is it not reasonable to expect that a parliament that votes 6-1 to give the electorate a referendum on a matter, that they would honour that vote and do everything in their power to work towards delivering the instruction from their electorate?

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 12:10 - Nov 18 with 2148 views

Herbivore

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 12:07 - Nov 18 by bluejacko
Is it not reasonable to expect that a parliament that votes 6-1 to give the electorate a referendum on a matter, that they would honour that vote and do everything in their power to work towards delivering the instruction from their electorate?

You may not have noticed but they've spent the past 2 and a half years trying to do exactly that. The country has been going to sh!t in the meantime whilst this is their sole focus. What precisely is it you think they haven't done?

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So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 13:10 - Nov 18 with 2109 views

bluejacko

So, Leadsom thinks that after all the time spent negotiating with the EU on 12:10 - Nov 18 by Herbivore
You may not have noticed but they've spent the past 2 and a half years trying to do exactly that. The country has been going to sh!t in the meantime whilst this is their sole focus. What precisely is it you think they haven't done?

I am not talking about just the Tories! At every twist and turn there has been an agenda to get the decision overturned! Do you not accept that Brexit is going to happen and if the Parliament had shown a united front in these talks we just might have gotten a better deal. The EU has just sat back and laughed at our idiots arguing among themselves and having all these ex politicians going across to Brussels to tell them what buttons to press to disrupt the process.

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