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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 23:40 - Feb 25 by factual_blue
Who can forget Diana Gould destroying thatcher on Nationwide?
My "open waters" are your "exclusion zone". Still, those Argies had it coming. Galtieri was a clear and present danger to us all, being the tinpot Latin American dictator that he was.
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 22:19 - Feb 25 by StokieBlue
Yes.
However the subsequent question is why should we respect the judgement when China have ignored the UN judgement on the Spratly Islands.
I guess the only good thing we did was make it a protected nature reserve which might not be the case when it's handed back.
SB
So China is our moral benchmark now?
The decision is based on self-determination I've heard - the UK/ US response will be tested against arguments such as the Falklands and Gibraltarian referendums.
Why is self-determination OK for the Falklanders but not the Chagons?
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 23:57 - Feb 25 with 3788 views
When you look back at the way we got hold of the Islands it's hardly surprising the families of those we kicked out want it back. It's exactly the sort of behaviour we'd skulk at if another country did similar.
What they expect to come back to given it is essentially a floating Military base, armed to the teeth with cutting edge technologies and defences most of us wouldn't even realise existed is quite another situation. Is it anything like the place their ancestors remember?
There's simply no way the UK or the US is going to give it back regardless of what international law says, it's far too strategically important from a military point of view
Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 23:53 - Feb 25 by XYZ
So China is our moral benchmark now?
The decision is based on self-determination I've heard - the UK/ US response will be tested against arguments such as the Falklands and Gibraltarian referendums.
Why is self-determination OK for the Falklanders but not the Chagons?
I've agreed with a post saying they should have self determination so not sure where you've plucked that one from.
The UN ruling doesn't give them that though, it puts them under the rule of another different country that's 2000km away and who don't really like them so treat them like second class citizens.
SB
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 06:32 - Feb 26 with 3741 views
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 23:57 - Feb 25 by bournemouthblue
When you look back at the way we got hold of the Islands it's hardly surprising the families of those we kicked out want it back. It's exactly the sort of behaviour we'd skulk at if another country did similar.
What they expect to come back to given it is essentially a floating Military base, armed to the teeth with cutting edge technologies and defences most of us wouldn't even realise existed is quite another situation. Is it anything like the place their ancestors remember?
There's simply no way the UK or the US is going to give it back regardless of what international law says, it's far too strategically important from a military point of view
Isn't virtually all of the Chagos a UK marine protection reserve with the exception of Diego Garcia?
I don't think the rest of the atols are militarised? You're right though, can't see them getting Diego Garcia but they might get the other islands back.
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 06:54 - Feb 26 by blueislander
There are plenty of nuclear weapons stored inside The Rock.
I had never heard of the Chagos until the news last night but my 1st comment to the missus was that presumably it has plenty of nukes buried there. I can't see any other reason to battle to hang on to it otherwise in this day and age with modern jet capacity
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 07:11 - Feb 26 by Bluefish
I had never heard of the Chagos until the news last night but my 1st comment to the missus was that presumably it has plenty of nukes buried there. I can't see any other reason to battle to hang on to it otherwise in this day and age with modern jet capacity
We don't have plane launched nukes and the US would use silos or subs.
What it does have is a giant US airbase.
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 07:34 - Feb 26 with 3701 views
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 23:40 - Feb 25 by footers
Dark tings a'gwan... I blame Thatcher, personally. But then again I blame her for everything. Including inventing ecstasy to placate da yoof. She did it with Mr Whippy so what's stopping her going that far? More details in my newsletter.
The Cane toads documentary on Netflix is well worth a watch.
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 07:44 - Feb 26 with 3690 views
This isn't a Falklands scenario where there was nobody who lived there. We forced people off their land and are now letting Daddy America use it as a military base.
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 07:11 - Feb 26 by Bluefish
I had never heard of the Chagos until the news last night but my 1st comment to the missus was that presumably it has plenty of nukes buried there. I can't see any other reason to battle to hang on to it otherwise in this day and age with modern jet capacity
Don't see what claim Mauritus has apart from the fact we dumped the inhabitants in their country. Mauritius also has a claim to a French island colony a lot nearer to them.
What to do with the Chagos islands is a short term problem which will be resolved by global warming.
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 08:15 - Feb 26 by Pinewoodblue
Don't see what claim Mauritus has apart from the fact we dumped the inhabitants in their country. Mauritius also has a claim to a French island colony a lot nearer to them.
What to do with the Chagos islands is a short term problem which will be resolved by global warming.
Bloody yankees and their submarine bases.
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 08:11 - Feb 26 by DanTheMan
Yes.
This isn't a Falklands scenario where there was nobody who lived there. We forced people off their land and are now letting Daddy America use it as a military base.
Give it back. It was never ours to begin with.
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Arguably it was though, and the situation is a bit similar to the Falklands inasmuch as the islands were uninhabited until the late 1700s when it became a colony. The Chagossians are largely descendents of slaves imported to work on coconut plantations.
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Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 08:48 - Feb 26 with 3645 views
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 08:45 - Feb 26 by Clapham_Junction
Arguably it was though, and the situation is a bit similar to the Falklands inasmuch as the islands were uninhabited until the late 1700s when it became a colony. The Chagossians are largely descendents of slaves imported to work on coconut plantations.
It was when they were first colonised, however (and I might be wrong here) it was inhabited by the time we got them, and then it was inhabited when we kicked everyone off. And they were not given a say in the matter.
Should we give back the Chagos Islands then? on 08:48 - Feb 26 by DanTheMan
It was when they were first colonised, however (and I might be wrong here) it was inhabited by the time we got them, and then it was inhabited when we kicked everyone off. And they were not given a say in the matter.
When we kicked everyone off was it not uninhabited then?
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