| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? 13:25 - Mar 18 with 5999 views | MrTown |
I thought originally we needed massive changes at the club if we go down, but i think recent performances suggest actually that is far from the case. I think given the situation that occurred last summer the less the influx of players the better.
GK (dependent upon Bart moving on)
RB (competition with Emmanuel)
CB (add to Chambers, Woolfenden, Nsiala & possibly Ndaba)
LB (competition to Kenlock)
could argue another winger if Judge doesn't sign (but we do have Rowe, Ward, Sears & Lankester out at the moment)
Just really need to solidify and settle that back four. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:33 - Mar 18 with 5543 views | unstableblue |
I think the much needed overhaul was as much about playing style and linking to the playing style of the academy - both which we had effectively fecked up over a number of years.
I feel both of these are close to being fixed given the shape and system being played and the amount of youth coming through.
However, we are still prone to defensive hiccups and we are not clinical enough. And this is the squad element of the 'overhaul' you focus upon. Full backs, energetic holding mids and a creative mid, as well as of course strikers is where we had either not fulfilled those positions for years, or gambles on lower level players under Hurst.
Our number one target needs to be a striker to dominate opponents, supported by harrison, jackons, sears, and lankester.
I agree we need competition for Emmanuel and Kenlock, albeit both I think can make the step up at the lower level. But just look at Bree, what a difference. We've effectively needed Bree for about 5 seasons.
Then I think we need to consider whether Downes and Skuse can be be that BIG player for us. I'm not so sure. And I think you may see an addition there. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:35 - Mar 18 with 5536 views | christiand |
We need a striker that knows how to put the ball in the net. The Norwood link, at the weekend, was encouraging and the type of player we need. I know others will say yes, but Jackson played in League 2 and scored goals, but not at the rate and consistency of Norwood. Although Jackson I feel is getting there and in time will prove a decent signing. Need to tie down Judge, he'll be able to change games in League One. Chalobah will be a huge loss, look at his impact on Saturday. Can Downes or Dozzell step up? Just believe PL and ST need one or two key signings to add to the squad, but I don't think we're far away from a very competitive side. I'm looking forward to getting rid of some of the fat, too many earning a living for little in return at our club. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:36 - Mar 18 with 5531 views | baxterbasics |
If we can keep this squad largely intact post relegation, I would expect them to do well.
Not guaranteed of course! |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:39 - Mar 18 with 5516 views | FrimleyBlue |
If I was ME i'd be using every penny I can first to keep Judge and Keane. Then work on the others incomings. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:41 - Mar 18 with 5505 views | footers |
Get rid of the merry-go-round manager. We need some fresh blood from the lower leagues. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:54 - Mar 18 with 5446 views | Garv |
Suddenly midfield looks a lot more tidy than in recent years, obviously dependent on fitness and Judge signing. Could just do with a bit more physicality in there, i.e a Chalobah replacement. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:05 - Mar 18 with 5410 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
So potentially a new goalkeeper, pretty much every position in defence, wingers and not listed by you but I expect at least one striker will be on the list
Not much then! |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:07 - Mar 18 with 5393 views | Deano69 |
Its up front that needs most attention (depending on who ships out). |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:12 - Mar 18 with 5364 views | MrTown |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:41 - Mar 18 by footers |
Get rid of the merry-go-round manager. We need some fresh blood from the lower leagues. |
It’s painful how little seem to know about football. | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:13 - Mar 18 with 5354 views | MrTown |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:05 - Mar 18 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
So potentially a new goalkeeper, pretty much every position in defence, wingers and not listed by you but I expect at least one striker will be on the list
Not much then! |
Three positions at the back.
A GK and Winger are only dependant upon departures.
As someone said, the Norwood link is encouraging.
In my opinion it won’t be a massive overhaul. | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:15 - Mar 18 with 5345 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:13 - Mar 18 by MrTown |
Three positions at the back.
A GK and Winger are only dependant upon departures.
As someone said, the Norwood link is encouraging.
In my opinion it won’t be a massive overhaul. |
We’ll sign at least 7 players - maybe only 5 brand new ones if both Judge and Keane stay but I’m doubtful that we’ll get both, tbh | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:17 - Mar 18 with 5342 views | MrTown |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:15 - Mar 18 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
We’ll sign at least 7 players - maybe only 5 brand new ones if both Judge and Keane stay but I’m doubtful that we’ll get both, tbh |
I think 6 is what will come in, only Bart contracted player to leave for a few.
Keane imo won’t stay.
And the longer Judge talks go on, less likely imo he’ll stay. Which will be a massive shame. | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:17 - Mar 18 with 5342 views | Smithy |
We will lose around 20 players at the season regardless...
Loans (6)
Keane
Quaner
Bree
Elder
Chalobah
Pennington
End of Contract (10)
Gerken
Knudsen
Spence
Ward
Adeyemi
McKendry
Webber
Collins
Smith
Dawkins
Transfer listed? (6)
Donacien
Rowe
Roberts
Nsiala
Drinan
Cotter
Out of Contract to be kept on? (4)
Emmanuel
Kenlock
Judge
Crowe |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:19 - Mar 18 with 5327 views | footers |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:12 - Mar 18 by MrTown |
It’s painful how little seem to know about football. |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:20 - Mar 18 with 5324 views | MrTown |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:17 - Mar 18 by Smithy |
We will lose around 20 players at the season regardless...
Loans (6)
Keane
Quaner
Bree
Elder
Chalobah
Pennington
End of Contract (10)
Gerken
Knudsen
Spence
Ward
Adeyemi
McKendry
Webber
Collins
Smith
Dawkins
Transfer listed? (6)
Donacien
Rowe
Roberts
Nsiala
Drinan
Cotter
Out of Contract to be kept on? (4)
Emmanuel
Kenlock
Judge
Crowe |
We know the loans are going back. With the expection of Elder most Town fans will be wise enough to realise we can’t keep hold of them.
Out of the rest only Kenlock and Judge have been 1st team regulars and Nsiala won’t be listed.
Emmanuel and Kenlock deals I’m sure will be done.
The rest have really played a little role anyway and won’t seem as much of a miss as they haven’t played a significant role anyway. | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:28 - Mar 18 with 5282 views | chicoazul |
As things stand after the last game we have Skuse Chambers Bart Mini Roy's buys and the kids. So yes, we do. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:31 - Mar 18 with 5268 views | chicoazul |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:17 - Mar 18 by Smithy |
We will lose around 20 players at the season regardless...
Loans (6)
Keane
Quaner
Bree
Elder
Chalobah
Pennington
End of Contract (10)
Gerken
Knudsen
Spence
Ward
Adeyemi
McKendry
Webber
Collins
Smith
Dawkins
Transfer listed? (6)
Donacien
Rowe
Roberts
Nsiala
Drinan
Cotter
Out of Contract to be kept on? (4)
Emmanuel
Kenlock
Judge
Crowe |
I have been saying this for months yet everyone ignores/shouts at me about it. We currently have about 12 players with first team experience for next season. | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 15:41 - Mar 18 with 5150 views | BlueBadger |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:12 - Mar 18 by MrTown |
It’s painful how little seem to know about football. |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 15:46 - Mar 18 with 5134 views | Kieran_Knows |
This was my expectation the other day. I don't think we'll need an overhaul, but I suspect we'll see one ... I'm pretty sure PL has said as much in the past as well.
My view on the squad is something along the lines of...
Stay;
Chambers
Edwards
Skuse
Nolan
Bishop
Nydam
Sears
Downes
Dozzell
Emmanuel
Wright
Kenlock
Woolfenden
Lankester
Hopeful of staying;
Keane
Judge
Bart
Definitely released/sold;
Donacien
Knudsen
Spence
Rowe
Roberts
Adeyemi
Collins
Dawkins
50/50;
Jackson
Harrison
Ward
Nsiala
Huws
Plus the other 5 loan players all returning to their clubs. [Post edited 18 Mar 2019 15:48]
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 15:55 - Mar 18 with 5108 views | BlueBadger |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:17 - Mar 18 by MrTown |
I think 6 is what will come in, only Bart contracted player to leave for a few.
Keane imo won’t stay.
And the longer Judge talks go on, less likely imo he’ll stay. Which will be a massive shame. |
I suspect that Huws will end up getting released. I imagine he's on a fair wage and his injury troubles show no sign of resolving. | |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 17:56 - Mar 18 with 5019 views | billlm |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:39 - Mar 18 by FrimleyBlue |
If I was ME i'd be using every penny I can first to keep Judge and Keane. Then work on the others incomings. |
That's excactly what we should do,most of the rest of the squad is more than capable of top half those two elevate us to top six and more |  | | |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 19:00 - Mar 18 with 4938 views | Guthrum |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 14:31 - Mar 18 by chicoazul |
I have been saying this for months yet everyone ignores/shouts at me about it. We currently have about 12 players with first team experience for next season. |
Indeed, when people speak of "only playing those we know are going to be here next season", that is quite a small number - and even some of those may leave if enticed away or preferring not to drop a division. |  |
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| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 21:03 - Mar 18 with 4780 views | PJH |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 19:00 - Mar 18 by Guthrum |
Indeed, when people speak of "only playing those we know are going to be here next season", that is quite a small number - and even some of those may leave if enticed away or preferring not to drop a division. |
Yes, if we only play those that are fit and that we "know" will be here next season we will hardly be able to field a five-a-side team.
There are a lot of players under contract for next season (and beyond)but not too many that, for various reasons, you can more or less guarantee will be here. |  | | |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 21:54 - Mar 18 with 4714 views | HARRY10 |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 13:36 - Mar 18 by baxterbasics |
If we can keep this squad largely intact post relegation, I would expect them to do well.
Not guaranteed of course! |
Collins
Judge
Sears
Spence
Quaner
Gerken
Knudsen
Ward
Emmanuel
Keane
Pennington
Bree
Kenlock
Chalobah
Are all out of contract in June - so that's 14 of the squad we won't be 'keeping together' as things stand.
If their total wages amount to £7m then that will cover the £7m loss we will suffer from TV money, STs etc
Where will the money come from for signings to replace those, as being out of contract/loan we will get no fees for any of them ? But we will need to cover wage costs for any new players/loans.
That, I'm afraid, is the stark reality of what faces us. | | | |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 08:22 - Mar 19 with 4487 views | BluePG |
| We don't need a massive overhaul do we? on 21:54 - Mar 18 by HARRY10 |
Collins
Judge
Sears
Spence
Quaner
Gerken
Knudsen
Ward
Emmanuel
Keane
Pennington
Bree
Kenlock
Chalobah
Are all out of contract in June - so that's 14 of the squad we won't be 'keeping together' as things stand.
If their total wages amount to £7m then that will cover the £7m loss we will suffer from TV money, STs etc
Where will the money come from for signings to replace those, as being out of contract/loan we will get no fees for any of them ? But we will need to cover wage costs for any new players/loans.
That, I'm afraid, is the stark reality of what faces us. |
Agree. The wages at any club are eye watering. The supposed £7m loss of income will mean zero transfer fees will be paid. To decimate our wage bill will mean that nearly every ‘senior’ player will need to be sold, even for a peppercorn amount. | |
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