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Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:03 - Apr 3 by footers
What do you make of the Tory party funding and arming the Wahhabist Saudi terrorist regime, which we then have to mop up?
How did peace in NI come about- was it a decisive military victory or a peaceful, negotiated treaty which required opposing sides to agree?
But Corbyn took no part in a peaceful, negotiated treaty. He sided with the IRA, honoured their military personnel and voted against the Anglo/Irish agreement . There is no record of him doing the same with members of the unionist paramilitary organizations.
As Seamus Mallon, somebody who was involved in the peaceful, negotiated treaty said "I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.”
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:14 - Apr 3 by GlasgowBlue
But Corbyn took no part in a peaceful, negotiated treaty. He sided with the IRA, honoured their military personnel and voted against the Anglo/Irish agreement . There is no record of him doing the same with members of the unionist paramilitary organizations.
As Seamus Mallon, somebody who was involved in the peaceful, negotiated treaty said "I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.”
Opinions ...
Well, it's not opinion to say peace was achieved when we actually sat down with them and talked (despite that supposedly being always off the table).
Pronouns: He/Him
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Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:22 - Apr 3 with 1702 views
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:14 - Apr 3 by GlasgowBlue
But Corbyn took no part in a peaceful, negotiated treaty. He sided with the IRA, honoured their military personnel and voted against the Anglo/Irish agreement . There is no record of him doing the same with members of the unionist paramilitary organizations.
As Seamus Mallon, somebody who was involved in the peaceful, negotiated treaty said "I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.”
He didn't 'side with the IRA' but with Sinn Fein. The Tories met with the IRA. Will you condemn them?
Tbh, as someone with skin in this particular game I would rather not go too deep into the subject.
People have expressed a view of a united Ireland, which I am, and many of my family were, sympathetic to. Let's leave it there.
footers KC - Prosecution Barrister - Friend to all
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:14 - Apr 3 by GlasgowBlue
But Corbyn took no part in a peaceful, negotiated treaty. He sided with the IRA, honoured their military personnel and voted against the Anglo/Irish agreement . There is no record of him doing the same with members of the unionist paramilitary organizations.
As Seamus Mallon, somebody who was involved in the peaceful, negotiated treaty said "I never heard anyone mention Corbyn at all. He very clearly took the side of the IRA and that was incompatible, in my opinion, with working for peace.”
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:22 - Apr 3 by footers
He didn't 'side with the IRA' but with Sinn Fein. The Tories met with the IRA. Will you condemn them?
Tbh, as someone with skin in this particular game I would rather not go too deep into the subject.
People have expressed a view of a united Ireland, which I am, and many of my family were, sympathetic to. Let's leave it there.
I don't believe John Major met with the IRA at a troops out rally, shared a platform at a troops out rally with an IRA terrorist on the run after shooting dead a member of the British security services or stood for a minutes silence to honour IRA bombers who were shot by British soldiers whilst attempting to blow up a police station.
I believe representatives of the British government sat down with the IRA in order to negotiate a peaceful solution.
A massive difference between a government sitting down and negotiating a peaceful settlement with both sides of an armed conflict on British soil and taking the side of one particular faction whilst honouring the people trying to kill and maim British civilians.
Absolutely nothing wrong in wanting a united Ireland. I agree that it's something that should be achieved by peaceful means. So did Seamus Mallon, which is why people like him joined the SDLP. Corbyn decided to side with and support the nationalist who took the violent route rather than the peaceful root.
And yes. We'll leave it there. It's been done many times before.
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:33 - Apr 3 by GlasgowBlue
I don't believe John Major met with the IRA at a troops out rally, shared a platform at a troops out rally with an IRA terrorist on the run after shooting dead a member of the British security services or stood for a minutes silence to honour IRA bombers who were shot by British soldiers whilst attempting to blow up a police station.
I believe representatives of the British government sat down with the IRA in order to negotiate a peaceful solution.
A massive difference between a government sitting down and negotiating a peaceful settlement with both sides of an armed conflict on British soil and taking the side of one particular faction whilst honouring the people trying to kill and maim British civilians.
Absolutely nothing wrong in wanting a united Ireland. I agree that it's something that should be achieved by peaceful means. So did Seamus Mallon, which is why people like him joined the SDLP. Corbyn decided to side with and support the nationalist who took the violent route rather than the peaceful root.
And yes. We'll leave it there. It's been done many times before.
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Thanks for respecting my wishes.
footers KC - Prosecution Barrister - Friend to all
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 10:44 - Apr 3 by Lord_Lucan
It's not much different to sticking a picture of someone on a dartboard.
It was only paintball rounds.
Are people really getting upset about this? Get a life springs to mind.
Just like the Jon Snow incident, it’s a stupid thing to do and shouldn’t have been done but absolutely nobody needs to get their knickers in a twist about it
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:29 - Apr 3 by Darth_Koont
Yes, let's.
And maybe you can park your one-eyed Corbyn crusade too. It's been relatively free from the usual party political silliness these past few weeks.
Thank you for your comments which have been taken on board.
You may have noted that I did not stay this thread and furthermore have condemned the soldiers using an image of Mr Corbyn for target practice.
Others made reference to his support of the IRA whilst others have defended him on the issue. Most strange that it is my comments you have taken issue with. Especially as I have been more than courteous with my posts.
Mugs. In 20 years time they'll be trying to self medicate their PTSD with illegal drugs whilst being homeless and living on the streets as a result of Tory party policies.
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 11:02 - Apr 3 by hampstead_blue
POTD!
Were shall I start? Would you like examples of how HIS friends tried to scrub me in NI and on the mainland or shall I leave you to debate it with the Para Reg?
The Paras in the video show just what the Armed Forces and us Veterans think of him. Having served on a couple of tours with Para reg I can tell you they are some of the finest men you could ever meet.
They included former senior members of the military, ......"
"But Mr Griffin, who was elected as an MEP earlier this year, told Sky News that his party was popular among the forces rank-and-file.
"I'm the one who talks to the families of young squaddies and large numbers of ex-servicemen and they all say that almost everyone at the coalface, fighting in Afghanistan, vote for the British National Party," he said."
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 20:31 - Apr 3 by BrixtonBlue
That's the smear campaign's side of the story.
Here's what Mr. Corbyn has to say himself;
You are accusing Seamus Mallon, one of the architects of the Northern Ireland peace process of smearing Corbyn? Oh my word.
Re your video; Corbyn told Neil: ‘I never met the IRA.’
Corbyn invited Gerry Adams, alongside two members of the Provisional IRA, Linda Quigley and Gerard McLoughlin, to the HOC weeks after the Brighton bombing. Ireland’s former Taoiseach Enda Kenny has said that, from all the evidence he has seen, Adams was not merely an IRA member but sat on its army council.
Corbyn also shared a platform at a 1994 rally with Angelo Fusco, an IRA terrorist on the run after shooting dead an SAS officer.
Diane Abbot, who has at least been more honest than Corbyn about her previous support of the IRA, dropped Jezza in it the day after his Andrew Neil interview by saying Corbyn shared platforms with Brendan McKenna, who was jailed for his role in bombing the British Legion hall in Portadown, and Raymond McCartney, a member of the Provisional IRA.
"Towards the end of the 60s, General Sir Walter Walker, a former commander of NATO, who had fought in Malaya and Brunei, made a call: ‘To save Britain from the Communist Trojan Horse in our midst’ and claimed that Harold Wilson, the Labour Party leader: ‘Was a proven communist.’ On Northern Ireland Walker said:
“I have engaged in campaigns against blacks, yellows and slant eyes. Why should we have one rule for whites and one for coloureds? We have to decide if Northern Ireland is part of Britain or not — and if so, act accordingly.”
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 21:04 - Apr 3 by GlasgowBlue
You are accusing Seamus Mallon, one of the architects of the Northern Ireland peace process of smearing Corbyn? Oh my word.
Re your video; Corbyn told Neil: ‘I never met the IRA.’
Corbyn invited Gerry Adams, alongside two members of the Provisional IRA, Linda Quigley and Gerard McLoughlin, to the HOC weeks after the Brighton bombing. Ireland’s former Taoiseach Enda Kenny has said that, from all the evidence he has seen, Adams was not merely an IRA member but sat on its army council.
Corbyn also shared a platform at a 1994 rally with Angelo Fusco, an IRA terrorist on the run after shooting dead an SAS officer.
Diane Abbot, who has at least been more honest than Corbyn about her previous support of the IRA, dropped Jezza in it the day after his Andrew Neil interview by saying Corbyn shared platforms with Brendan McKenna, who was jailed for his role in bombing the British Legion hall in Portadown, and Raymond McCartney, a member of the Provisional IRA.
No I haven't accused Seamus Mallon of smearing Corbyn. I was accusing you of it.
You love this phrase "sharing a platform with" don't you? We all know it's political speak... but basically means "was on the same stage as, but I'm trying to make it look like he agreed with their views."
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 23:20 - Apr 3 by BrixtonBlue
No I haven't accused Seamus Mallon of smearing Corbyn. I was accusing you of it.
You love this phrase "sharing a platform with" don't you? We all know it's political speak... but basically means "was on the same stage as, but I'm trying to make it look like he agreed with their views."
So transparent.
I may be wrong, but I recall he denounced the "no platforming" thing that was de jour a couple of years ago.
I agree it's a smear. Sharing a stage does not equate to sharing views. Base, simplistic nonsense.
Populist, inflammatory nonsense.
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Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 00:17 - Apr 4 with 1462 views
Whatever your views are of Corbyn.... on 11:09 - Apr 3 by SouperJim
As a Corbyn supporter, I'm not remotely fussed about the video. I also think there should be zero comeback, in all probability none of the guys firing are in charge of the range anyway and likely one of their superiors put the target up there.
As you say, it's just a bit of fun and not worth getting snowflakey about.
That's fine but had this been a member of the Royal Family, the Right Wing Rags would be in full melt down mode
Corbyn could be their boss before too long, the absolute lemons
The irony of course is that he opposed a war where many of their colleagues will have died for a supposed unjust reasons
Labour are probably likely to fund them better than the cost cutting Tories also
They'd rather invest the trident cash into conventional military areas for example, not that Trident will ever be scrapped
Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
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